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The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.

Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.

Wow, another stupid fucking Trumpettre.

I crossed trhe border into Mexico in Bisbee, AZ this past summer. Guess what? There was this double fence & we had to go through a border crossing & show ID & shit.

'Really?

Oh, so you approve of Trump's border wall, Thanks.
Yea right, asshat. You are so fucking stupid you think Trump is talking about a fence. He is talking about a 30' concrete wall.

Pull your head out of your fat ass & check out the pics of the samples he had built.
 
Yea right, asshat. You are so fucking stupid you think Trump is talking about a fence. He is talking about a 30' concrete wall.

Pull your head out of your fat ass & check out the pics of the samples he had built.
The bigger and stronger, the better. :badgrin:
 
Yea right, asshat. You are so fucking stupid you think Trump is talking about a fence. He is talking about a 30' concrete wall.

Pull your head out of your fat ass & check out the pics of the samples he had built.
The bigger and stronger, the better. :badgrin:
The French tried that before WWII. Didn't work out very well, did it.

The problem with your orange hero's wall is that it over kill, expensive, and won't stop much of anything. People will just go around it, over it, or under it. All that money & little benefit.

To use the opioid problem as another excuse is dumber yet.

The "Wall" is stupid. Like you & Trump
 
Unless a hell of a lot in that regard has changed since 2014, in the U.S., no, they don't for the most part.


Surely you will acknowledge that there were far more than 140K crimes committed in 2000. Furthermore:
  • 2010/2015 -- The Criminalization of Immigration in the United States
    • Immigrants are less likely than native-born individuals to engage in criminal behavior.
    • In 2010, 10.7% of native-born men aged 18-39 without a high school degree were incarcerated compared to 2.8% of Mexican immigrants and 1.7% of Guatemalan and Salvadoran immigrants.
  • 2014 -- ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Report
    • 177,960 --> The quantity of undocumented immigrants deported in 2013 who were convicted criminals
  • 2015 -- U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to Sen. Flake
    • "Between FY 2010 and FY 2014, there were 121 unique criminal aliens who had an active case at the time of release and were subsequently charged with homicide-related offenses." That's about nine per year.
  • 2013 -- Prisoners in 2013
    • There were 73,665 inmates in state and federal prisons who are not U.S. citizens.
  • 2000 -- On Immigration and Crime
    • With few exceptions, immigrants are less crime prone than natives or have no effect on crime rates.
  • 2000/2007 -- Why Are Immigrants' Crime Rates So Low?
    • Butcher and Piehl examine the incarceration rates for men aged 18-40 in the 1980, 1990, and 2000 Censuses. In each year immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than natives with the gap widening each decade. By 2000, immigrants have incarceration rates that are one-fifth those of the native-born.
  • 2013 -- Understanding the Impact of Immigration on Crime
    • Spenkuch found that a 10% increase in the share of immigrants increases the property crime rate by 1.2% and that immigrants have no on violent crime rates. He found too that Mexican immigrants account entirely for the effect on property crime rates, committing 3.5 to 5 times as many property crimes as the average native; however, all other immigrants commit less than half as many crimes of any sort as natives.
  • Various years -- Multiple researchers found that the population of immigrants is either not correlated or negatively correlated with crime rates.
    • Secure Communities (S-COMM) program [1] analysis -- Miles and Cox used the phased rollout to see how S-COMM affected crime rates per county. If immigrants were disproportionately criminal, then S-COMM would decrease the crime rates. They found that S-COMM “led to no meaningful reduction in the FBI index crime rate” including violent crimes. Treyger et al found that S-COMM did not decrease crime rates nor did it lead to an increase in discriminatory policing that some critics were worried about.
    • 2000 -- Exploring the Connection between Immigration and Violent Crime Rates in U.S. Cities, 1980–2000
      • Ousey and Kubrin looked at 159 cities at three dates between 1980 and 2000 and found that crime rates and levels of immigration are not correlated. Their research found that “[v]iolent crime is not a deleterious consequence of increased immigration.”
    • Immigration and the Recent Violent Crime Drop in the United States
      • Using time‐series techniques and annual data for metropolitan areas over the 1994–2004 period, [Stowell et al] assessed the impact of changes in immigration on changes in violent crime rates. Their multivariate analyses showed that violent crime rates tended to decrease as metropolitan areas experienced gains in their concentration of immigrants. This inverse relationship was especially robust for robbery.
From the findings of the studies above, both Census-data driven ones and macro-level ones, the notion that immigrants are more crime-prone than natives does not hold water. There are numerous reasons why immigrant criminality is lower than native criminality. One explanation is that immigrants who commit crimes can be deported and thus are punished more for criminal behavior, making them less likely to break the law.


There is, of course, one crime genre whereof illegal immigrants commit almost exclusively are the perpetrators: immigration offenses. Because immigration violations are crimes, to the extent immigration-law-only offenses are included in immigrant crime, doing so materially overstates immigrant crime rates, thereby denuding greatly their legitimacy for asserting that immigrants commit more crime than do non-immigrants.


Note:
  1. The Secure Communities program (S-COMM) uses a federal information-sharing partnership between DHS and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that helps to identify in-custody aliens without imposing new or additional requirements on state and local law enforcement. For decades, local jurisdictions have shared the fingerprints of individuals arrested and/or booked into custody with the FBI to see if those individuals have a criminal record and outstanding warrants.

    Under S-COMM, the FBI automatically sends the fingerprints to DHS to check against its immigration databases. If these checks reveal that an individual is unlawfully present in the United States or otherwise removable, ICE takes enforcement action -- prioritizing the removal of individuals who present the most significant threats to public safety as determined by the severity of their crime, their criminal history, and risk to public safety – as well as those who have violated the nation’s immigration laws.

    S-COMM proved beneficial for facilitating deportations, but not useful at reducing crime rates. Note that the remark to which this post is a response is about immigrants' criminality, not the government's success at/rate of deportations.

Post all the FAKE NEWS you want I already posted the FACTS from several government agencies go look it up.
Below is every post you've in this thread made prior to the one above, which is post 40. You've not posted a damn thing that readers can verifiably trace to so much as one government agency and you've not put one reference/corroborating link in any of those posts. If have ever posted such information on USMB, it damn sure isn't in this thread.
If you think this bothers liberals or deters them in any way you are wrong. They don't care how many victims they help murder, illegals have killed and raped thousands of Americans and they side with illegals at every opportunity.
Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.
Wrong, illegals commit far more crime vs US citizens stop lying. I have already corrected you on this before yet you keep telling the same lie over and over again. RealDave professional liar I guess, here have a bunch of these :eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar:
He's lying, illegals commit far more crimes than American citizens. The FBI and several government agencies stats prove it. Not only do they commit more crimes, the crimes they commit are more serious and violent crimes.
In contrast, four of the first five bullet-list references to which I linked are government agency/department/bureau sourced:

The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
No, it isn't. It's opposing a wall as a means to curtailing the incidence of individuals illegally crossing a border.

Fine, lets build machine gun nests and land mine fields.
 
There's a myriad of reasons to vote Republican, but a few of them whack you right in the jaw, and can't be denied, no matter the level of liberal spin applied. Occasionally, I like to post the words of a good conservative author, who can speak as well as anyone, and better than most.

The following is from the book Godless by Ann Coulter (pg. 33-34), and tells a typical horror story created by liberals in New York state. It just involves one criminal person, but there are dozens of other accounts just like it ,which can be also revealed, upon request if need be.

"Arthur Shawcross is the two-word explanation for why normal people prefer locking criminals up to releasing them, despite the risk we run of turning them into "scapegoats." In 1972, Shawcross molested and murdered a 10 year old boy, he had lured into the woods. A few months later, he raped and murdered an 8 year old girl. He was arrested and confessed to the crimes. For reasons that remain mysterious, the charges against Shawcross for the boy's murder were dropped altogether. Instead, Shawcross pleaded guilty to manslaughter for the girl's rape and murder, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

In 1987, after serving only 15 years in prison, Shawcross was released by a parole board chosen by Democratic governor Mario Cuomo. Despite the conclusion of Cuomo's appointees on the parole board that Shawcross was ready to become an integral part of society again, society didn't think so, and repeatedly protested having him in their neighborhoods.

Fortunately for Shawcross, Cuomo's parole board abjured primitive emotions like vengeance and retribution, and helpfully relocated him to Rochester, New York - without warning anyone, not even the police department. The important thing was to treat Shawcross with dignity and respect. Within 2 years, Shawcross committed 11 more murders in the Rochester area. He was eventually caught and convicted a second time. This time,he was put away for good - assuming a Democrat never gets into power and sets him loose again.

That's what happened in America when liberals were at the controls. Only in the 80s, did the country begin to fight its way back from liberal insanity on crime, electing Republican presidents, Republican governors, and Republican legislatures."
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
 
Below is every post you've in this thread made prior to the one above, which is post 40. You've not posted a damn thing that readers can verifiably trace to so much as one government agency and you've not put one reference/corroborating link in any of those posts. If have ever posted such information on USMB, it damn sure isn't in this thread.




In contrast, four of the first five bullet-list references to which I linked are government agency/department/bureau sourced:

The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
No, it isn't. It's opposing a wall as a means to curtailing the incidence of individuals illegally crossing a border.
half of them come in legally and overstay. Only an SS ID card that can't be faked will . Which the GOP has blocked forever, super duper.7

Fine, lets build machine gun nests and land mine fields.
half of them come in legally and overstay. Only an SS ID card that can't be faked will work. Which the GOP has blocked forever, super duper.
 
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.
 
Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.

The fact remains that there are more US Citizens than illegals. My family is Mexican and I wish the US immigration policy and enforcement was more like Mexico’s. How does protection of national sovereignty make one a hater?
 
There's a myriad of reasons to vote Republican, but a few of them whack you right in the jaw, and can't be denied, no matter the level of liberal spin applied. Occasionally, I like to post the words of a good conservative author, who can speak as well as anyone, and better than most.

The following is from the book Godless by Ann Coulter (pg. 33-34), and tells a typical horror story created by liberals in New York state. It just involves one criminal person, but there are dozens of other accounts just like it ,which can be also revealed, upon request if need be.

"Arthur Shawcross is the two-word explanation for why normal people prefer locking criminals up to releasing them, despite the risk we run of turning them into "scapegoats." In 1972, Shawcross molested and murdered a 10 year old boy, he had lured into the woods. A few months later, he raped and murdered an 8 year old girl. He was arrested and confessed to the crimes. For reasons that remain mysterious, the charges against Shawcross for the boy's murder were dropped altogether. Instead, Shawcross pleaded guilty to manslaughter for the girl's rape and murder, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

In 1987, after serving only 15 years in prison, Shawcross was released by a parole board chosen by Democratic governor Mario Cuomo. Despite the conclusion of Cuomo's appointees on the parole board that Shawcross was ready to become an integral part of society again, society didn't think so, and repeatedly protested having him in their neighborhoods.

Fortunately for Shawcross, Cuomo's parole board abjured primitive emotions like vengeance and retribution, and helpfully relocated him to Rochester, New York - without warning anyone, not even the police department. The important thing was to treat Shawcross with dignity and respect. Within 2 years, Shawcross committed 11 more murders in the Rochester area. He was eventually caught and convicted a second time. This time,he was put away for good - assuming a Democrat never gets into power and sets him loose again.

That's what happened in America when liberals were at the controls. Only in the 80s, did the country begin to fight its way back from liberal insanity on crime, electing Republican presidents, Republican governors, and Republican legislatures."
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
 
Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.

The fact remains that there are more US Citizens than illegals. My family is Mexican and I wish the US immigration policy and enforcement was more like Mexico’s. How does protection of national sovereignty make one a hater?
We are talking per capita of course.

The Democratic plan with SSID card is the only solution. The GOP loves illegal workers and Dupes you morons.
 
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?
 
Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.

No they don't, illegals commit far more crimes and more serious crimes. I will do your thinking for you franco because you suck at it.
 
Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
 
Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
Brainwashed functional moron.
Trump painted a dark picture of immigrants, despite the facts

You would think they would commit more crimes considering they're illegal... Pass the goddamn immigration bill with a SSID card that can't be faked and end this forever. I think the GOP actually loves the cheap labor. They keep this going on forever like the abortion controversy. They are a disgrace. Poor America poor dupes...
 
Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
Wow, your saying it certainly makes you right.

Only in Trumpland
 
Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.

No they don't, illegals commit far more crimes and more serious crimes. I will do your thinking for you franco because you suck at it.
You...think...hahahahahaha

Trumpettes can't fucking think else they wouldn't be dumbass Trumpettes.
 
Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
Brainwashed functional moron.
Trump painted a dark picture of immigrants, despite the facts

You would think they would commit more crimes considering they're illegal... Pass the goddamn immigration bill with a SSID card that can't be faked and end this forever. I think the GOP actually loves the cheap labor. They keep this going on forever like the abortion controversy. They are a disgrace. Poor America poor dupes...

I have posted the facts from the DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security many times, the facts say illegals commit far more crimes than American citizens or legal immigrants. Its not my fault you believe the liberal media propaganda. Franco pull your head out of your ass okay.
 
Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

FakeDave is making shit up again :eusa_liar:
The fact remains illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens, hater Dupe. Despite your BS hate propaganda.

No they don't, illegals commit far more crimes and more serious crimes. I will do your thinking for you franco because you suck at it.
You...think...hahahahahaha

Trumpettes can't fucking think else they wouldn't be dumbass Trumpettes.

No FakeDave, the FBI, DOJ, Dept of Homeland Security and other government agencies say illegals commit more crime.
 
Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
Wow, your saying it certainly makes you right.

Only in Trumpland

FakeDave I have posted the data, you have posted your fake opinions. Here have this :itsok:
 
Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.

Is that wishful thinking on your part or do you have empirical basis to support your hypothesis?
Illegals do less crime. So hypothetically do away with them, rate goes up. Jesus Christ how stupid can this get?

No they don't, illegals do more crimes. Do you think if you keep repeating your lie it will come true? Are you MSNBC?
Brainwashed functional moron.
Trump painted a dark picture of immigrants, despite the facts

You would think they would commit more crimes considering they're illegal... Pass the goddamn immigration bill with a SSID card that can't be faked and end this forever. I think the GOP actually loves the cheap labor. They keep this going on forever like the abortion controversy. They are a disgrace. Poor America poor dupes...

I have posted the facts from the DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security many times, the facts say illegals commit far more crimes than American citizens or legal immigrants. Its not my fault you believe the liberal media propaganda. Franco pull your head out of your ass okay.
There is fox and rush and Heritage Etc and then there is the rest of the media in the whole world. In the end it's irrelevant. Pass the goddamn immigration Bill and end it forever. Jesus f****** Christ
 

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