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Here's Why To Not Let Your State Go Blue

You didn't refute anything for starters. Secondly you couldn't even bother to defend Coulter's argument on this, because she lied.
I refuted you about Serge Kovaleski. You stupidly fell for the Hillary campaign scam, that tried to twist Trump's comments about Kovaleski's laughable and deceitful "I can't remember" DODGE, into an alleged attack on his disability.

You put your foot in your mouth when you posted this erroneous goof-up >> "Well, I guess we can start anywhere. How about this one?"Ann Coulter says she can prove Donald Trump never mocked a reporter’s disability. (She can’t.)

She can and DID. Ann Coulter refuted you long before I did. You got caught right here, not knowing what you're taking about, and now you'e trying to weasel out of it. You're not going to.
 
So then cure your ignorance - READ the books, and LEARN, instead of jumping in here all airhead, and posting nothing.

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The Democratic immigration bill of 2010 had a SS ID card that would have stopped illegal immigration, silly Dupe. The The GOP will keep this crap going forever. Wall is useless.
LOL. Spin whatever you want. Every American knows Democrats push illegal immigration (ex amnesty bills, sanctuary cities, etc), while Republicans have consistently voted and fought against these harmful and traitorous things for years.

HR 3009 - The Enforce the Law for Sanctuary Cities Act (H.R. 3009) would have ended funding from the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program to state or local governments, that inhibit the enforcement of federal immigration laws, or prohibit officials from gathering information on the citizenship of any individual. The bill was designed to penalize “sanctuary cities,” which provide shelter for illegal immigrants, for refusing to cooperate with the federal government on immigration policy. The bill passed the House by a partisan vote of 241–179 with Republicans voting in favor and Democrats voting against.
 
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Below is every post you've in this thread made prior to the one above, which is post 40. You've not posted a damn thing that readers can verifiably trace to so much as one government agency and you've not put one reference/corroborating link in any of those posts. If have ever posted such information on USMB, it damn sure isn't in this thread.




In contrast, four of the first five bullet-list references to which I linked are government agency/department/bureau sourced:

The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.

Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.

Wow, another stupid fucking Trumpettre.

I crossed trhe border into Mexico in Bisbee, AZ this past summer. Guess what? There was this double fence & we had to go through a border crossing & show ID & shit.

'Really?

Oh, so you approve of Trump's border wall, Thanks.
 
There's a myriad of reasons to vote Republican, but a few of them whack you right in the jaw, and can't be denied, no matter the level of liberal spin applied. Occasionally, I like to post the words of a good conservative author, who can speak as well as anyone, and better than most.

The following is from the book Godless by Ann Coulter (pg. 33-34), and tells a typical horror story created by liberals in New York state. It just involves one criminal person, but there are dozens of other accounts just like it ,which can be also revealed, upon request if need be.

"Arthur Shawcross is the two-word explanation for why normal people prefer locking criminals up to releasing them, despite the risk we run of turning them into "scapegoats." In 1972, Shawcross molested and murdered a 10 year old boy, he had lured into the woods. A few months later, he raped and murdered an 8 year old girl. He was arrested and confessed to the crimes. For reasons that remain mysterious, the charges against Shawcross for the boy's murder were dropped altogether. Instead, Shawcross pleaded guilty to manslaughter for the girl's rape and murder, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

In 1987, after serving only 15 years in prison, Shawcross was released by a parole board chosen by Democratic governor Mario Cuomo. Despite the conclusion of Cuomo's appointees on the parole board that Shawcross was ready to become an integral part of society again, society didn't think so, and repeatedly protested having him in their neighborhoods.

Fortunately for Shawcross, Cuomo's parole board abjured primitive emotions like vengeance and retribution, and helpfully relocated him to Rochester, New York - without warning anyone, not even the police department. The important thing was to treat Shawcross with dignity and respect. Within 2 years, Shawcross committed 11 more murders in the Rochester area. He was eventually caught and convicted a second time. This time,he was put away for good - assuming a Democrat never gets into power and sets him loose again.

That's what happened in America when liberals were at the controls. Only in the 80s, did the country begin to fight its way back from liberal insanity on crime, electing Republican presidents, Republican governors, and Republican legislatures."
Ann the man Coulter. Too damn funny you’d actually copy and paste anything she says.
There’s many reasons to vote blue and most important one is to hold this prez accountable because the spineless GOP congress won’t.
After Bob Mueller indicts this Criminal prez impeachment hearings need to start which will only happen once the D’s take over the House..
 
And the tax money they pay into the system.

Immigration should be all legal.

Your claims as to the crime rate are wrong.

You have no clue what a sanctuary city is.
Tax money they pay ? Maybe you didn't read the list of Harms of immigration. Maybe you missed # 3 ->> Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
And # 5 >> Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

Immigration should be all ILLEGAL - with the rare exceptions of MERIT (ex. immigrants bringing large amounts of capital, to open businesses, and create jobs, FOR AMERICANS).....and....those bringing things of value to us (ex. great violinist, great scientist, etc)

I did not mention crime "rate". In item # 6, I stated "increased" crime. ie, Additional to what was there before the immigration.

I know exactly what sanctuary cities are. You think its a major mathematical formula ? :rolleyes:

:right:
 
Ann the man Coulter. Too damn funny you’d actually copy and paste anything she says.
There’s many reasons to vote blue and most important one is to hold this prez accountable because the spineless GOP congress won’t.
After Bob Mueller indicts this Criminal prez impeachment hearings need to start which will only happen once the D’s take over the House..

Too damn funny you know nothing of what she informs us about. Here's your Ann Coulter QUIZ > Who are these people ? How did their crime cases illustrate liberal lunacy ?

Eleanor Bumpurs, Micheal Stewart, Larry Davis, Lemrick Nelson, Kiko Garcia, Marla Hanson, Marion Barry, Edward Summers, Robert Chambers, Michael Lasane, the Howard Beach case, Ann Viner/Evelyn Wagler, Channon Christian/Chistopher Newsom, White gangs at Columbia University (1987), Sabrina Collins (Emory University), Gilbert Moore, Jr (Williams College), Alicia Hardin (Trinity Intl Univ.-2005), Tawana Brawley, Laurie Hecht, etc.

There's many reasons to NOT vote blue, and the cases of the people in this list, are clearly among them.
 
Unless a hell of a lot in that regard has changed since 2014, in the U.S., no, they don't for the most part.


Surely you will acknowledge that there were far more than 140K crimes committed in 2000. Furthermore:
  • 2010/2015 -- The Criminalization of Immigration in the United States
    • Immigrants are less likely than native-born individuals to engage in criminal behavior.
    • In 2010, 10.7% of native-born men aged 18-39 without a high school degree were incarcerated compared to 2.8% of Mexican immigrants and 1.7% of Guatemalan and Salvadoran immigrants.
  • 2014 -- ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Report
    • 177,960 --> The quantity of undocumented immigrants deported in 2013 who were convicted criminals
  • 2015 -- U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to Sen. Flake
    • "Between FY 2010 and FY 2014, there were 121 unique criminal aliens who had an active case at the time of release and were subsequently charged with homicide-related offenses." That's about nine per year.
  • 2013 -- Prisoners in 2013
    • There were 73,665 inmates in state and federal prisons who are not U.S. citizens.
  • 2000 -- On Immigration and Crime
    • With few exceptions, immigrants are less crime prone than natives or have no effect on crime rates.
  • 2000/2007 -- Why Are Immigrants' Crime Rates So Low?
    • Butcher and Piehl examine the incarceration rates for men aged 18-40 in the 1980, 1990, and 2000 Censuses. In each year immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than natives with the gap widening each decade. By 2000, immigrants have incarceration rates that are one-fifth those of the native-born.
  • 2013 -- Understanding the Impact of Immigration on Crime
    • Spenkuch found that a 10% increase in the share of immigrants increases the property crime rate by 1.2% and that immigrants have no on violent crime rates. He found too that Mexican immigrants account entirely for the effect on property crime rates, committing 3.5 to 5 times as many property crimes as the average native; however, all other immigrants commit less than half as many crimes of any sort as natives.
  • Various years -- Multiple researchers found that the population of immigrants is either not correlated or negatively correlated with crime rates.
    • Secure Communities (S-COMM) program [1] analysis -- Miles and Cox used the phased rollout to see how S-COMM affected crime rates per county. If immigrants were disproportionately criminal, then S-COMM would decrease the crime rates. They found that S-COMM “led to no meaningful reduction in the FBI index crime rate” including violent crimes. Treyger et al found that S-COMM did not decrease crime rates nor did it lead to an increase in discriminatory policing that some critics were worried about.
    • 2000 -- Exploring the Connection between Immigration and Violent Crime Rates in U.S. Cities, 1980–2000
      • Ousey and Kubrin looked at 159 cities at three dates between 1980 and 2000 and found that crime rates and levels of immigration are not correlated. Their research found that “[v]iolent crime is not a deleterious consequence of increased immigration.”
    • Immigration and the Recent Violent Crime Drop in the United States
      • Using time‐series techniques and annual data for metropolitan areas over the 1994–2004 period, [Stowell et al] assessed the impact of changes in immigration on changes in violent crime rates. Their multivariate analyses showed that violent crime rates tended to decrease as metropolitan areas experienced gains in their concentration of immigrants. This inverse relationship was especially robust for robbery.
From the findings of the studies above, both Census-data driven ones and macro-level ones, the notion that immigrants are more crime-prone than natives does not hold water. There are numerous reasons why immigrant criminality is lower than native criminality. One explanation is that immigrants who commit crimes can be deported and thus are punished more for criminal behavior, making them less likely to break the law.


There is, of course, one crime genre whereof illegal immigrants commit almost exclusively are the perpetrators: immigration offenses. Because immigration violations are crimes, to the extent immigration-law-only offenses are included in immigrant crime, doing so materially overstates immigrant crime rates, thereby denuding greatly their legitimacy for asserting that immigrants commit more crime than do non-immigrants.


Note:
  1. The Secure Communities program (S-COMM) uses a federal information-sharing partnership between DHS and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that helps to identify in-custody aliens without imposing new or additional requirements on state and local law enforcement. For decades, local jurisdictions have shared the fingerprints of individuals arrested and/or booked into custody with the FBI to see if those individuals have a criminal record and outstanding warrants.

    Under S-COMM, the FBI automatically sends the fingerprints to DHS to check against its immigration databases. If these checks reveal that an individual is unlawfully present in the United States or otherwise removable, ICE takes enforcement action -- prioritizing the removal of individuals who present the most significant threats to public safety as determined by the severity of their crime, their criminal history, and risk to public safety – as well as those who have violated the nation’s immigration laws.

    S-COMM proved beneficial for facilitating deportations, but not useful at reducing crime rates. Note that the remark to which this post is a response is about immigrants' criminality, not the government's success at/rate of deportations.

Post all the FAKE NEWS you want I already posted the FACTS from several government agencies go look it up.
Below is every post you've in this thread made prior to the one above, which is post 40. You've not posted a damn thing that readers can verifiably trace to so much as one government agency and you've not put one reference/corroborating link in any of those posts. If have ever posted such information on USMB, it damn sure isn't in this thread.
If you think this bothers liberals or deters them in any way you are wrong. They don't care how many victims they help murder, illegals have killed and raped thousands of Americans and they side with illegals at every opportunity.
Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.
Wrong, illegals commit far more crime vs US citizens stop lying. I have already corrected you on this before yet you keep telling the same lie over and over again. RealDave professional liar I guess, here have a bunch of these :eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar::eusa_liar:
He's lying, illegals commit far more crimes than American citizens. The FBI and several government agencies stats prove it. Not only do they commit more crimes, the crimes they commit are more serious and violent crimes.
In contrast, four of the first five bullet-list references to which I linked are government agency/department/bureau sourced:

The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.
Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
No, it isn't. It's opposing a wall as a means to curtailing the incidence of individuals illegally crossing a border.
 
There's a myriad of reasons to vote Republican, but a few of them whack you right in the jaw, and can't be denied, no matter the level of liberal spin applied. Occasionally, I like to post the words of a good conservative author, who can speak as well as anyone, and better than most.

The following is from the book Godless by Ann Coulter (pg. 33-34), and tells a typical horror story created by liberals in New York state. It just involves one criminal person, but there are dozens of other accounts just like it ,which can be also revealed, upon request if need be.

"Arthur Shawcross is the two-word explanation for why normal people prefer locking criminals up to releasing them, despite the risk we run of turning them into "scapegoats." In 1972, Shawcross molested and murdered a 10 year old boy, he had lured into the woods. A few months later, he raped and murdered an 8 year old girl. He was arrested and confessed to the crimes. For reasons that remain mysterious, the charges against Shawcross for the boy's murder were dropped altogether. Instead, Shawcross pleaded guilty to manslaughter for the girl's rape and murder, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

In 1987, after serving only 15 years in prison, Shawcross was released by a parole board chosen by Democratic governor Mario Cuomo. Despite the conclusion of Cuomo's appointees on the parole board that Shawcross was ready to become an integral part of society again, society didn't think so, and repeatedly protested having him in their neighborhoods.

Fortunately for Shawcross, Cuomo's parole board abjured primitive emotions like vengeance and retribution, and helpfully relocated him to Rochester, New York - without warning anyone, not even the police department. The important thing was to treat Shawcross with dignity and respect. Within 2 years, Shawcross committed 11 more murders in the Rochester area. He was eventually caught and convicted a second time. This time,he was put away for good - assuming a Democrat never gets into power and sets him loose again.

That's what happened in America when liberals were at the controls. Only in the 80s, did the country begin to fight its way back from liberal insanity on crime, electing Republican presidents, Republican governors, and Republican legislatures."
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.
 
No, it isn't. It's opposing a wall as a means to curtailing the incidence of individuals illegally crossing a border.
But why oppose it ? Walls work well in countries all over the world. Here's an article from England, praising their wall, in addition to others countries' walls (Israel, Hungary, Macedonia, Turkey, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, India, Spain) - and let's not forget the one around Hillary Clinton’s family home in Chappaqua, NY, which is surrounded by a security fence with a guardhouse.

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Israel’s wall near Qalandia crossing between the West Bank city of Ramallah and East Jerusalem.


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Border fence that limits Morocco from the Spanish enclave of Melilla.
 
Below is every post you've in this thread made prior to the one above, which is post 40. You've not posted a damn thing that readers can verifiably trace to so much as one government agency and you've not put one reference/corroborating link in any of those posts. If have ever posted such information on USMB, it damn sure isn't in this thread.




In contrast, four of the first five bullet-list references to which I linked are government agency/department/bureau sourced:

The U.S. Sentencing Commission found that 75 percent of all criminal defendants who were convicted and sentenced for federal drug offenses were illegals.

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that as of 2014, illegals were convicted and sentenced for over 13 percent of all crimes committed in the U.S. yet make up only 3% of the population.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) between June 2011 and March 2017, over 217,000 illegals were arrested and booked into Texas jails. They had jointly committed over nearly 600,000 criminal offenses. Their arrests included nearly 1,200 homicides; almost 69,000 assaults; 16,854 burglaries; 700 kidnappings; nearly 6,200 sexual assaults.

The Democratic Party needs more poor uneducated voters who hate Americans.
That is why they want open borders.
No one wants open borders, dupe. Hillary was talking about trade ya goddamn brainwashed functional moron.

Opposing the border wall is advocating open borders.
All countries control their border crossings.
The Democrats are backwards people.

Wow, another stupid fucking Trumpettre.

I crossed trhe border into Mexico in Bisbee, AZ this past summer. Guess what? There was this double fence & we had to go through a border crossing & show ID & shit.

'Really?
Plus half the illegals come in Legally and overstay their visas. The only solution is SSID card that can't be faked like Democrats want and the GOP has blocked forever. They are totally full of s***and distract the dupes with bulshit walls and unconstitutional harassment laws. This has gone on forever, silly dupes. The greedy idiot Rich GOP loves the cheap labor.
 
Plus half the illegals come in Legally and overstay their visas. The only solution is SSID card that can't be faked like Democrats want and the GOP has blocked forever. They are totally full of s***and distract the dupes with bulshit walls and unconstitutional harassment laws. This has gone on forever, silly dupes. The greedy idiot Rich GOP loves the cheap labor.
I already squashed that nonsense in Post # 163. Since you repeat,I will too. Here's that post (163) again >>>

Spin whatever you want. Every American knows Democrats push illegal immigration (ex amnesty bills, sanctuary cities, etc), while Republicans have consistently voted and fought against these harmful and traitorous things for years.

HR 3009 - The Enforce the Law for Sanctuary Cities Act (H.R. 3009) would have ended funding from the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program to state or local governments, that inhibit the enforcement of federal immigration laws, or prohibit officials from gathering information on the citizenship of any individual. The bill was designed to penalize “sanctuary cities,” which provide shelter for illegal immigrants, for refusing to cooperate with the federal government on immigration policy. The bill passed the House by a partisan vote of 241–179 with Republicans voting in favor and Democrats voting against.
 
No, it isn't. It's opposing a wall as a means to curtailing the incidence of individuals illegally crossing a border.
But why oppose it ? Walls work well in countries all over the world. Here's an article from England, praising their wall, in addition to others countries' walls (Israel, Hungary, Macedonia, Turkey, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, India, Spain) - and let's not forget the one around Hillary Clinton’s family home in Chappaqua, NY, which is surrounded by a security fence with a guardhouse.

GettyImages-584172082.jpg


Israel’s wall near Qalandia crossing between the West Bank city of Ramallah and East Jerusalem.


GettyImages-462399176.jpg


Border fence that limits Morocco from the Spanish enclave of Melilla.
You orange hero wants a 40 foot concrete wall across the entire border, originally.

We have fences like in the pics you stupid shit.
 
Plus half the illegals come in Legally and overstay their visas. The only solution is SSID card that can't be faked like Democrats want and the GOP has blocked forever. They are totally full of s***and distract the dupes with bulshit walls and unconstitutional harassment laws. This has gone on forever, silly dupes. The greedy idiot Rich GOP loves the cheap labor.
I already squashed that nonsense in Post # 163. Since you repeat,I will too. Here's that post (163) again >>>

Spin whatever you want. Every American knows Democrats push illegal immigration (ex amnesty bills, sanctuary cities, etc), while Republicans have consistently voted and fought against these harmful and traitorous things for years.

HR 3009 - The Enforce the Law for Sanctuary Cities Act (H.R. 3009) would have ended funding from the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program to state or local governments, that inhibit the enforcement of federal immigration laws, or prohibit officials from gathering information on the citizenship of any individual. The bill was designed to penalize “sanctuary cities,” which provide shelter for illegal immigrants, for refusing to cooperate with the federal government on immigration policy. The bill passed the House by a partisan vote of 241–179 with Republicans voting in favor and Democrats voting against.
You are still so fucking stupid that you have no clue what a sanctuary anything really is & what it does.
 
There's a myriad of reasons to vote Republican, but a few of them whack you right in the jaw, and can't be denied, no matter the level of liberal spin applied. Occasionally, I like to post the words of a good conservative author, who can speak as well as anyone, and better than most.

The following is from the book Godless by Ann Coulter (pg. 33-34), and tells a typical horror story created by liberals in New York state. It just involves one criminal person, but there are dozens of other accounts just like it ,which can be also revealed, upon request if need be.

"Arthur Shawcross is the two-word explanation for why normal people prefer locking criminals up to releasing them, despite the risk we run of turning them into "scapegoats." In 1972, Shawcross molested and murdered a 10 year old boy, he had lured into the woods. A few months later, he raped and murdered an 8 year old girl. He was arrested and confessed to the crimes. For reasons that remain mysterious, the charges against Shawcross for the boy's murder were dropped altogether. Instead, Shawcross pleaded guilty to manslaughter for the girl's rape and murder, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

In 1987, after serving only 15 years in prison, Shawcross was released by a parole board chosen by Democratic governor Mario Cuomo. Despite the conclusion of Cuomo's appointees on the parole board that Shawcross was ready to become an integral part of society again, society didn't think so, and repeatedly protested having him in their neighborhoods.

Fortunately for Shawcross, Cuomo's parole board abjured primitive emotions like vengeance and retribution, and helpfully relocated him to Rochester, New York - without warning anyone, not even the police department. The important thing was to treat Shawcross with dignity and respect. Within 2 years, Shawcross committed 11 more murders in the Rochester area. He was eventually caught and convicted a second time. This time,he was put away for good - assuming a Democrat never gets into power and sets him loose again.

That's what happened in America when liberals were at the controls. Only in the 80s, did the country begin to fight its way back from liberal insanity on crime, electing Republican presidents, Republican governors, and Republican legislatures."
So, one case means we need to accept Donnie the Scumbag?

Really?
and besides,. Ann Coulter - the bastard transvestite son of Rush Limbaugh?

Illegals have killed thousands of Americans and you people take their side at every opportunity, ignore federal law and give them sanctuary. THOUSANDS of cases. You can't defend it so deflect like I know you will.

Illegals commit fewer crimes than US citizens.

Base on your statement, without illegals in the US, fewer crimes would be committed.

Without illegals, the crime rate would go up.
 
You orange hero wants a 40 foot concrete wall across the entire border, originally.

We have fences like in the pics you stupid shit.
The top picture is a WALL, not a fence, you stupid piss ant.

US-Mexico wall should also have moat with alligators, and 5 rows of concertina wire on the American side. :badgrin:

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