hey democrats ! is Americas capitalistic system a form of white supremacy ?

[Andylusion]

The left bitch and complain about corporations...while investing trillions of their own pension money in the same corporations.

And losing $2.4T of said retirement investments when BushCo crashed the economy.

First, Bush didn't crash the economy. The origins of the sub-prime housing boom started in 1997. Housing prices started rising to bubble levels in 1997, just like sub-prime mortgages started in 1997.

So unless you think Bush passed a policy that warped back into time to 1997, Bush cannot be blamed for the sub-prime crash.

Second, people did not lose $2.4 Trillion in retirement, unless you were stupid enough to sell when the price was low. I started buying stocks in 2008, specifically because prices were low. I didn't lose even a penny, because I simply didn't sell the stock. The market recovered, and I earned money, I did not lose it.

The markets never actually "recovered". They reinflated with massive socialist infusions by the Fed.

Capitalism!!

This is Capitalism 2.0 now: The Federal Reserve as a primary component of the economy, there to save our ass when capitalism fails.

I think all of you are greatly over estimating what effect the Federal Reserve has on anything.

Capitalism never failed either. A bank failing, is not Capitalism failing. Besides that, it was government involvement that caused those failures to begin with.

Under capitalism, where socialists don't dictate what loans banks have to make, no sub-prime loans would ever have been made, and thus no economic crash would have ever happened.

The Meltdown was far less about government than it was about Wall Street's Wild West show, starring the banks, insane unregulated leverage, the mortgage companies, insurance companies, CDO's, CMO's, swaps, synthentics and corruption at the ratings services. Even Alan "the markets will self correct" Greenspan admitted that. And the Fed had to save our ass. AND, he ignored the CLTC's Brooksley Borns when she PUBLICLY BEGGED him for regulation.

Then in 2019, short term credit markets froze again, and the NY Fed had to save our ass again. $1.5T.

Now in 2020, the Fed is saving our ass yet again by buying TRILLIONS in corporate bonds, junk bonds and even EQUITIES.

No, the Fed is all in now. It's our shiny new toy that we'll almost certainly over-use. Capitalism 2.0.

No, that's not true. Facts over opinion. Sub-prime loans have existed for decades. Yet the sub-prime mortgage market was a niche market until 1997, when it dramatically changed into a large portion of loans.

Why did it remain a tiny niche market for decades on decades? Because they were risky. And risky loans lose money.

So what happened in 1997 to 1998 that dramatically changed the entire market? Two things. First, government sued banks to force them to make sub-prime loans.



This is well documented. Cuomo proudly sued banks to make them make bad loans, that he himself in the video openly admits, yeah they didn't qualify for loans, and the default rate will be higher on these loans. That part for certain was true.

The second things government did, was guarantee sub-prime loans. Again well documented that in 1997 Freddie Mac, signed a contract with First Union, which later became Wachovia, and Bear Stearns, both of which were huge failures during the crash.

Bear Stearns, the CRA, and Freddie Mac - Cafe Hayek

I keep hearing that the subprime crisis was caused by people willing to buy stuff they couldn't evaluate. Why would smart people do that? One answer is that they were stupid. In an era of rising home prices, it's hard...

cafehayek.com

Press release from First Union in 1997.

​

Capital Markets Corp. and Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc. have priced a​

$384.6 million offering of securities backed by Community Reinvestment​

Act (CRA) loans – marking the industry’s first public securitization of​

CRA loans.​

​

The affordable mortgages were originated or acquired by First Union​

Corporation and subsidiaries. Customers will experience no impact –​

they will continue to make payments to and be serviced by First Union​

Mortgage Corp. CRA loans are loans targeted to low and moderate income​

borrowers and neighborhoods under the Community Reinvestment Act of​

1977.​

​

"The securitization of these affordable mortgages allows us to redeploy​

capital back into our communities and to expand our ability to provide​

credit to low and moderate income individuals," said Jane Henderson,​

managing director of First Union’s Community Reinvestment and Fair​

Lending Programs. "First Union is committed to promoting home ownership​

in traditionally underserved markets through a comprehensive line of​

competitive and flexible affordable mortgage products. This transaction​

enables us to continue to aggressively serve those markets."​

​

The $384.6 million in senior certificates are guaranteed by Freddie Mac and​

have an implied "AAA" rating. First Union Capital Markets Corp. is the​

investment banking subsidiary of First Union Corporation.​

So when you consider that government gave bad loans a AAA rating, guaranteed the loans through Bear Stearns and First Union, and when you consider the government was suing banks to make these loans....

this is what caused the dramatic increase in sub-prime loans, and that caused the increase in housing prices which started in 1997, and eventually led to the crash in 2008.

It was government, from start to finish. Without government, banks would not have given loans to people who did not qualify for loans. Without government, Freddie Mac would not have guaranteed those loans. Without government those mortgage backed securities would never have been given a "AAA" rating.

Without government none of any of this would have happened.

As an impetus, fine. And Clinton opened the floodgates when he let Rubin and Summers talk him into getting rid of Glass Steagall.

But all the crap that happened afterwards - the derivatives, the AAA ratings, the leverage, the CDSs with zero reserve requirements, the banks shorting the very shit they were selling, on and on and on -- that was the free market run amok. Those were the elements of the meltdown, and government had nothing to do with them.

Nothing about Glass Steagall had anything at all to do with the sub-prime crash.

The repeal that you are talking about, happened in 1999. The sub-prime and housing price bubble started in 1997. The two things are not connected.

Additionally, most of the rest of the world, never had the Glass Steagall regulations. Lending requirements are lower in Canada, than in the US. And most of your Europe for that matter.

Moreover, if that 1999 repeal had never happened.... almost none of the banks that failed would have been under that regulation. Countrywide, nope. Indymac, nope. Bear Stearns, nope. Wachovia, nope. Only a very tiny few banks would have been impacted, like CitiGroup.

Even then, while the Glass Steagall regulations may have prevented the merger of Travelers Group, and CitiCorp, the fact is Travelers Group was spun off in 2002, years before the crash, and thus even then, would have had no impact whatsoever on the sub-prime crash in 2008.

So, no... Regulations, or deregulation, had nothing NOTHING to do with the sub-prime crash. Glass Steagall would not have prevented the crash. Deregulation did not cause the crash. And no amount regulations would have stopped the crash.

The crash was caused by government pushing sub-prime loans, and suing banks to make sub-prime loans. Government involvement in the housing market cashed the economy.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

Contrary to what your thought masters have told you to believe, opposing your agenda is not "hating" all the groups you fraudulently purport to be defending. You are not the avatar of all that's good and righteous in the universe, no matter HOW much you want to believe it.

 

[Andylusion]

many in blm antifa and dem leaders like the gang of 4 headed by AOC claim that the capitalist system in America is a form of white supremacy and the ultimate goal of said leaders and groups is to do away with that system .... so the question for left voters is whether or not they believe capitalism is a form of white supremacy and what economic system do they believe would be better or more importantly to their ideology fairer ?

Do you see a connection between white supremacy and US slavery?

"There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery."

Is Capitalism Racist?

"As Walter Johnson, one of our leading historians of slavery, wrote in 2018, 'There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery: the history of Manchester never happened without the history of Mississippi.'"

There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery? Are you insane? Capitalism existed since the first man owned the first cow, and sold milk for money. Capitalism existed before a single slave was in America. Capitalism existed when the first man owned a plot of land, and cultivated it for food, and sold that food for a profit.

Trying to tie capitalism and slavery is utter ridiculous nonsense spouted by fools, who both know nothing about history, or capitalism... or apparently anything.

 

[Mac1958]

The left bitch and complain about corporations...while investing trillions of their own pension money in the same corporations.

And losing $2.4T of said retirement investments when BushCo crashed the economy.

First, Bush didn't crash the economy. The origins of the sub-prime housing boom started in 1997. Housing prices started rising to bubble levels in 1997, just like sub-prime mortgages started in 1997.

So unless you think Bush passed a policy that warped back into time to 1997, Bush cannot be blamed for the sub-prime crash.

Second, people did not lose $2.4 Trillion in retirement, unless you were stupid enough to sell when the price was low. I started buying stocks in 2008, specifically because prices were low. I didn't lose even a penny, because I simply didn't sell the stock. The market recovered, and I earned money, I did not lose it.

The markets never actually "recovered". They reinflated with massive socialist infusions by the Fed.

Capitalism!!

This is Capitalism 2.0 now: The Federal Reserve as a primary component of the economy, there to save our ass when capitalism fails.

I think all of you are greatly over estimating what effect the Federal Reserve has on anything.

Capitalism never failed either. A bank failing, is not Capitalism failing. Besides that, it was government involvement that caused those failures to begin with.

Under capitalism, where socialists don't dictate what loans banks have to make, no sub-prime loans would ever have been made, and thus no economic crash would have ever happened.

The Meltdown was far less about government than it was about Wall Street's Wild West show, starring the banks, insane unregulated leverage, the mortgage companies, insurance companies, CDO's, CMO's, swaps, synthentics and corruption at the ratings services. Even Alan "the markets will self correct" Greenspan admitted that. And the Fed had to save our ass. AND, he ignored the CLTC's Brooksley Borns when she PUBLICLY BEGGED him for regulation.

Then in 2019, short term credit markets froze again, and the NY Fed had to save our ass again. $1.5T.

Now in 2020, the Fed is saving our ass yet again by buying TRILLIONS in corporate bonds, junk bonds and even EQUITIES.

No, the Fed is all in now. It's our shiny new toy that we'll almost certainly over-use. Capitalism 2.0.

No, that's not true. Facts over opinion. Sub-prime loans have existed for decades. Yet the sub-prime mortgage market was a niche market until 1997, when it dramatically changed into a large portion of loans.

Why did it remain a tiny niche market for decades on decades? Because they were risky. And risky loans lose money.

So what happened in 1997 to 1998 that dramatically changed the entire market? Two things. First, government sued banks to force them to make sub-prime loans.



This is well documented. Cuomo proudly sued banks to make them make bad loans, that he himself in the video openly admits, yeah they didn't qualify for loans, and the default rate will be higher on these loans. That part for certain was true.

The second things government did, was guarantee sub-prime loans. Again well documented that in 1997 Freddie Mac, signed a contract with First Union, which later became Wachovia, and Bear Stearns, both of which were huge failures during the crash.

Bear Stearns, the CRA, and Freddie Mac - Cafe Hayek

I keep hearing that the subprime crisis was caused by people willing to buy stuff they couldn't evaluate. Why would smart people do that? One answer is that they were stupid. In an era of rising home prices, it's hard...

cafehayek.com

Press release from First Union in 1997.

​

Capital Markets Corp. and Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc. have priced a​

$384.6 million offering of securities backed by Community Reinvestment​

Act (CRA) loans – marking the industry’s first public securitization of​

CRA loans.​

​

The affordable mortgages were originated or acquired by First Union​

Corporation and subsidiaries. Customers will experience no impact –​

they will continue to make payments to and be serviced by First Union​

Mortgage Corp. CRA loans are loans targeted to low and moderate income​

borrowers and neighborhoods under the Community Reinvestment Act of​

1977.​

​

"The securitization of these affordable mortgages allows us to redeploy​

capital back into our communities and to expand our ability to provide​

credit to low and moderate income individuals," said Jane Henderson,​

managing director of First Union’s Community Reinvestment and Fair​

Lending Programs. "First Union is committed to promoting home ownership​

in traditionally underserved markets through a comprehensive line of​

competitive and flexible affordable mortgage products. This transaction​

enables us to continue to aggressively serve those markets."​

​

The $384.6 million in senior certificates are guaranteed by Freddie Mac and​

have an implied "AAA" rating. First Union Capital Markets Corp. is the​

investment banking subsidiary of First Union Corporation.​

So when you consider that government gave bad loans a AAA rating, guaranteed the loans through Bear Stearns and First Union, and when you consider the government was suing banks to make these loans....

this is what caused the dramatic increase in sub-prime loans, and that caused the increase in housing prices which started in 1997, and eventually led to the crash in 2008.

It was government, from start to finish. Without government, banks would not have given loans to people who did not qualify for loans. Without government, Freddie Mac would not have guaranteed those loans. Without government those mortgage backed securities would never have been given a "AAA" rating.

Without government none of any of this would have happened.

As an impetus, fine. And Clinton opened the floodgates when he let Rubin and Summers talk him into getting rid of Glass Steagall.

But all the crap that happened afterwards - the derivatives, the AAA ratings, the leverage, the CDSs with zero reserve requirements, the banks shorting the very shit they were selling, on and on and on -- that was the free market run amok. Those were the elements of the meltdown, and government had nothing to do with them.

Nothing about Glass Steagall had anything at all to do with the sub-prime crash.

The repeal that you are talking about, happened in 1999. The sub-prime and housing price bubble started in 1999. The two things are not connected.

Additionally, most of the rest of the world, never had the Glass Steagall regulations. Lending requirements are lower in Canada, than in the US. And most of your Europe for that matter.

Moreover, if that 1999 repeal had never happened.... almost none of the banks that failed would have been under that regulation. Countrywide, nope. Indymac, nope. Bear Stearns, nope. Wachovia, nope. Only a very tiny few banks would have been impacted, like CitiGroup.

Even then, while the Glass Steagall regulations may have prevented the merger of Travelers Group, and CitiCorp, the fact is Travelers Group was spun off in 2002, years before the crash, and thus even then, would have had no impact whatsoever on the sub-prime crash in 2008.

So, no... Regulations, or deregulation, had nothing NOTHING to do with the sub-prime crash. Glass Steagall would not have prevented the crash. Deregulation did not cause the crash. And no amount regulations would have stopped the crash.

The crash was caused by government pushing sub-prime loans, and suing banks to make sub-prime loans. Government involvement in the housing market cashed the economy.

Holy crap.

This was Wall Street -- my industry -- behaving badly. Greenspan admitted it. Born admitted it. Paulsen admitted it. Dimon admitted it. Blankfein admitted it.

I'll side with them. Easily.

And with Guggenhem CIO Scott Minerd, who agrees with me about the Fed:

 

[georgephillip]

Capitalism existed when the first man owned a plot of land, and cultivated it for food, and sold that food for a profit.

When do you believe that occurred?
Human economies existed for thousands of years before money came into existence; capitalism did not.

 

[22lcidw]

The left bitch and complain about corporations...while investing trillions of their own pension money in the same corporations.

And losing $2.4T of said retirement investments when BushCo crashed the economy.

First, Bush didn't crash the economy. The origins of the sub-prime housing boom started in 1997. Housing prices started rising to bubble levels in 1997, just like sub-prime mortgages started in 1997.

So unless you think Bush passed a policy that warped back into time to 1997, Bush cannot be blamed for the sub-prime crash.

Second, people did not lose $2.4 Trillion in retirement, unless you were stupid enough to sell when the price was low. I started buying stocks in 2008, specifically because prices were low. I didn't lose even a penny, because I simply didn't sell the stock. The market recovered, and I earned money, I did not lose it.

The markets never actually "recovered". They reinflated with massive socialist infusions by the Fed.

Capitalism!!

This is Capitalism 2.0 now: The Federal Reserve as a primary component of the economy, there to save our ass when capitalism fails.

I think all of you are greatly over estimating what effect the Federal Reserve has on anything.

Capitalism never failed either. A bank failing, is not Capitalism failing. Besides that, it was government involvement that caused those failures to begin with.

Under capitalism, where socialists don't dictate what loans banks have to make, no sub-prime loans would ever have been made, and thus no economic crash would have ever happened.

The federal reserve has an affect on our economy. The politicians have an affect on our economy.

 

[22lcidw]

Capitalism existed when the first man owned a plot of land, and cultivated it for food, and sold that food for a profit.

When do you believe that occurred?
Human economies existed for thousands of years before money came into existence; capitalism did not.

People bartered.

 

[pknopp]

The left bitch and complain about corporations...while investing trillions of their own pension money in the same corporations.

And losing $2.4T of said retirement investments when BushCo crashed the economy.

First, Bush didn't crash the economy. The origins of the sub-prime housing boom started in 1997. Housing prices started rising to bubble levels in 1997, just like sub-prime mortgages started in 1997.

So unless you think Bush passed a policy that warped back into time to 1997, Bush cannot be blamed for the sub-prime crash.

Second, people did not lose $2.4 Trillion in retirement, unless you were stupid enough to sell when the price was low. I started buying stocks in 2008, specifically because prices were low. I didn't lose even a penny, because I simply didn't sell the stock. The market recovered, and I earned money, I did not lose it.

The markets never actually "recovered". They reinflated with massive socialist infusions by the Fed.

Capitalism!!

This is Capitalism 2.0 now: The Federal Reserve as a primary component of the economy, there to save our ass when capitalism fails.

I think all of you are greatly over estimating what effect the Federal Reserve has on anything.

Capitalism never failed either. A bank failing, is not Capitalism failing. Besides that, it was government involvement that caused those failures to begin with.

Under capitalism, where socialists don't dictate what loans banks have to make, no sub-prime loans would ever have been made, and thus no economic crash would have ever happened.

Right, Trillions in QE played no role.

Are you telling me, that Apple computer got money from QE? If so, prove it. Their information if publicly available. I know this, I'm a stock holder. If you can find where in Apple's legally required SEC filing, it says they got money from QE, then I will forever change my opinion about QE.

By the way, I'm against QE. I want the Fed to do as little as possible. I don't believe they are required for successful Capitalism.

There are two factors that play into the long term recovery of the stock market. Just two. Only two.

The value of the profit sharing (dividends on the stock), and the over all success of the company itself.

If Apple recorded a loss of billions, no amount of QE is going to magically make people buy that stock and have the market recover.
And if Apple records a profit of billions, no lack of QE is going to magically make me sell my stock in Apple, causing the market to crash.

Now if you want to argue that QE caused people to buy iPhones and Mac Computers..... Yeah good luck with that, because that would imply somehow I magically had more money to buy Apple products, because of QE. That didn't happen for me. Did it happen for you?

And if QE had no effect on Apple stock, why would it have an effect on Walmart stocks? Or Microsoft stock? On Honda, or Toyota or Ford, or any other company? Well of course it wouldn't have any effect.

So, the answer to your passive aggressive statement is... No: QE played no role whatsoever.
In the extreme short term, QE can boast stock prices, but only for a moment. After that moment where investors say "oh government is doing something!"... after that brief day or two at most, QE has zero long term impact. Zero.

That's actually one of the reasons I'm entirely against QE. The idiotic Fed is screwing around, and it does zero good whatsoever. In fact, I'm convinced the reason the government does this mindless crap, is because it convinces the stupid people, that you need them. Nothing empowers government more, than YOU thinking that THEY saved you. The government has their lemmings by the balls, and the lemmings don't even know it, because they are just mindlessly following the government propaganda.

Yes Apple got money from QE. It boosts the markets and Apple stocks go up.

If you are against QE why are you trying to defend it.

 

[georgephillip]

Trying to tie capitalism and slavery is utter ridiculous nonsense spouted by fools, who both know nothing about history, or capitalism... or apparently anything.

You're projecting.
Again:

Capitalism and Slavery

"The argument that capitalism was dependent on slavery is, of course, not new. In 1944, Eric Williams, in Capitalism and Slavery, made the case.

"In 1968, the historian Lorenzo Greene wrote that slavery 'formed the basis of the economic life of New England: about it revolved, and on it depended, most of her other industries.'

"Even before the expansion of slave labor in the South and into the West, slavery was already an important source of northern profit, as was the already exploding slave trade in the Caribbean and South America."

Every generation is condemned to prove the obvious: slavery created the modern world, "and the modern world's divisions are the product of slavery."

Too much MAGA?

 

[georgephillip]

eople bartered.

Apparently Americans resorted to that method of exchange during a previous crisis of capitalism?

https://www.mint.com/barter-system-history-the-past-and-present#:~:text=Due%20to%20lack%20of%20money,buyer's%20account%20would%20be%20debited.

"Due to lack of money, bartering became popular in the 1930s during the Great Depression. It was used to obtain food and various other services.

"It was done through groups or between people who acted similar to banks.

"If any items were sold, the owner would receive credit and the buyer's account would be debited."

 

[Cecilie1200]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

"You guys"? When did we mail bombs, or shoot up WalMarts, or run anyone over, or make up hit lists of people we want to kill?

Do US a favor, and stop trying to collectively blame everyone who disagrees with you for acts committed by people you have arbitrarily decided are "just like us".

And spare us your frustrated sexual fantasies about us. Ewwww.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

teenage triggered snowflakes going killing other teenagers are not our guys idiot

Sure they are. Unless you think "limp wristed liberals" are the families that have guns that often fuel these psycho INCELs. Put another way, you think Adam Lanza's mother was a liberal with a stash of weapons that would make Ted Nugent proud? Of course you do; you're a low life loser.

.... and it was a leftist that shot up an actual republican softball game ..... and meanwhile after your little diatribe of bullshit the left is rioting burning looting and killing people.

That true; a Bernie supporter went off his rocker.

Of course you can't account for any of the other
So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

You have yet to explain to us WHY we're supposed to "account for" any of this vague shit, when YOU are not prostrate with your guilt over shooting up the Republican softball practice. You want to play at collective guilt, sweetie, then we'll be needing an abject, tearful apology for all the people YOU tried to kill that day.

 

[Cecilie1200]

many in blm antifa and dem leaders like the gang of 4 headed by AOC claim that the capitalist system in America is a form of white supremacy and the ultimate goal of said leaders and groups is to do away with that system .... so the question for left voters is whether or not they believe capitalism is a form of white supremacy and what economic system do they believe would be better or more importantly to their ideology fairer ?

We all know these blacks and browns just don't "get" capitalism, don't we (-:

You'd have to ask AOC and her "squad".

 

[candycorn]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

"You guys"? When did we mail bombs, or shoot up WalMarts, or run anyone over, or make up hit lists of people we want to kill?

Do US a favor, and stop trying to collectively blame everyone who disagrees with you for acts committed by people you have arbitrarily decided are "just like us".

And spare us your frustrated sexual fantasies about us. Ewwww.

Most blob supporters crave violence. A grotesque bitch like yourself is the perfect mascot. You’re a profane idiot

 

[Thinker101]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

"You guys"? When did we mail bombs, or shoot up WalMarts, or run anyone over, or make up hit lists of people we want to kill?

Do US a favor, and stop trying to collectively blame everyone who disagrees with you for acts committed by people you have arbitrarily decided are "just like us".

And spare us your frustrated sexual fantasies about us. Ewwww.

Most blob supporters crave violence. A grotesque bitch like yourself is the perfect mascot. You’re a profane idiot

Trump supporters crave violence? Damn, dood, can you name a town that Trump supporters burned a business? Maybe burned a car or looted? Pulled a statue down, burned a flag, shit in the street?

 

[22lcidw]

eople bartered.

Apparently Americans resorted to that method of exchange during a previous crisis of capitalism?

https://www.mint.com/barter-system-history-the-past-and-present#:~:text=Due%20to%20lack%20of%20money,buyer's%20account%20would%20be%20debited.

"Due to lack of money, bartering became popular in the 1930s during the Great Depression. It was used to obtain food and various other services.

"It was done through groups or between people who acted similar to banks.

"If any items were sold, the owner would receive credit and the buyer's account would be debited."

The federal Reserve was chartered in part because of a promise that bank scares, recessions and depressions would never happen. Bartering is thousands of years old. The problem with a fiat currency is that the owners of the Federal Reserve are the middleman in modern bartering. Using cash to make trades. The owners are not billionaires, they are trillionaires. Rich families that have been around a long time. They have honed their craft well. But for actions there are reactions. The massive debts of the world are something that nine of us should want to see collapse.

 

[candycorn]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

"You guys"? When did we mail bombs, or shoot up WalMarts, or run anyone over, or make up hit lists of people we want to kill?

Do US a favor, and stop trying to collectively blame everyone who disagrees with you for acts committed by people you have arbitrarily decided are "just like us".

And spare us your frustrated sexual fantasies about us. Ewwww.

Most blob supporters crave violence. A grotesque bitch like yourself is the perfect mascot. You’re a profane idiot

Trump supporters crave violence? Damn, dood, can you name a town that Trump supporters burned a business? Maybe burned a car or looted? Pulled a statue down, burned a flag, shit in the street?

I noticed you left out “shot up a Wal Mart”

 

[Thinker101]

You have to be rioting to be angry? LOL

the rioting and looting makes us angry ....

As do blacks, Hispanics, the young, the old, the informed, the well, the rich, the poor, women, lgbt, latinas, Asians, immigrants, Etc...

As does heat, cold, sunlight, moonlight, damp conditions, dry conditions, global warming, the oceans, the plains, the air, the ground Etc...

the difference is in how the communist democrats like you express their anger ! stop trying to destroy our country with the violence and lawless anarchist .

So you guys mailing bombs to people was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys shooting up Wal*Marts and schools was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys running over political opponents in your car was an act of love and not anger?
So you guys making hit lists of democrats and liberals that you want to kill is an act of love and not anger?

Do us a favor, stop trying to love anyone if that was the case. Do what you always do and try to love yourself.

PS: It's not my fault your hand falls asleep.

"You guys"? When did we mail bombs, or shoot up WalMarts, or run anyone over, or make up hit lists of people we want to kill?

Do US a favor, and stop trying to collectively blame everyone who disagrees with you for acts committed by people you have arbitrarily decided are "just like us".

And spare us your frustrated sexual fantasies about us. Ewwww.

Most blob supporters crave violence. A grotesque bitch like yourself is the perfect mascot. You’re a profane idiot

Trump supporters crave violence? Damn, dood, can you name a town that Trump supporters burned a business? Maybe burned a car or looted? Pulled a statue down, burned a flag, shit in the street?

I noticed you left out “shot up a Wal Mart”

Yep, and I noticed you didn't come up with a town....ain't that a shock.

 

[OnePercenter]

The left bitch and complain about corporations...while investing trillions of their own pension money in the same corporations.

And losing $2.4T of said retirement investments when BushCo crashed the economy.

First, Bush didn't crash the economy. The origins of the sub-prime housing boom started in 1997. Housing prices started rising to bubble levels in 1997, just like sub-prime mortgages started in 1997.

So unless you think Bush passed a policy that warped back into time to 1997, Bush cannot be blamed for the sub-prime crash.

Second, people did not lose $2.4 Trillion in retirement, unless you were stupid enough to sell when the price was low. I started buying stocks in 2008, specifically because prices were low. I didn't lose even a penny, because I simply didn't sell the stock. The market recovered, and I earned money, I did not lose it.

First, the 2007-2008 crash happened because BushCo failed to police the industry. If you'll remember it was a free-for-all in the financial markets. Releasing kids in a candy store never works out well, which is why I called an all-out right here on the internet in August, 2007. I also called a sell right here on the USMB when the market was at 29. I'll bet you fucked-up again.

Secondly, retirement investors DID LOSE $2.4T in value which had to be made up. Playing catch-up is never good. You purchased stock a little early, and hopefully you sold before the skidmark crash.

 

[dudmuck]

many in blm antifa and dem leaders like the gang of 4 headed by AOC claim that the capitalist system in America is a form of white supremacy and the ultimate goal of said leaders and groups is to do away with that system .... so the question for left voters is whether or not they believe capitalism is a form of white supremacy and what economic system do they believe would be better or more importantly to their ideology fairer ?

Do you see a connection between white supremacy and US slavery?

"There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery."

Is Capitalism Racist?

"As Walter Johnson, one of our leading historians of slavery, wrote in 2018, 'There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery: the history of Manchester never happened without the history of Mississippi.'"

There was no such thing as capitalism without slavery? Are you insane? Capitalism existed since the first man owned the first cow, and sold milk for money. Capitalism existed before a single slave was in America. Capitalism existed when the first man owned a plot of land, and cultivated it for food, and sold that food for a profit.

Trying to tie capitalism and slavery is utter ridiculous nonsense spouted by fools, who both know nothing about history, or capitalism... or apparently anything.

Slavery is still legal in USA.
Prisoners can be paid cents per hour for their work, legally.

How America’s Economy Runs on Racism

Economist Darrick Hamilton explains that pursuit of profit, not hatred of black people, is the real root of discrimination.

www.ineteconomics.org

Corporations profit off racism. It's time for us to stand up to them | Rashad Robinson

We must prevent corporations from writing the exploitation of black and brown labor into the law in permanent ink

www.theguardian.com