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[YoursTruly]

Interesting, so you attack republicanism just shy of the mid terms, even though you know that Republicans are the party that will be voted for in the election against the Democrat's, and so yes conservatives are a part of the Republican party in general, but the Republican party is who the title of opposition that will be running against the Democrat's.

Your timing is suspicious.

I've been in this very same spot, saying the very same things since about 2007. That's about the time I learned the difference between republicanism and conservatism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've been in this very same spot, saying the very same things since about 2007. That's about the time I learned the difference between republicanism and conservatism.

Well, do enlighten us by defining "conservatism?"

 

[Woodznutz]

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[eagle1462010]

Interesting, so you attack republicanism just shy of the mid terms, even though you know that Republicans are the party that will be voted for in the election against the Democrat's, and so yes conservatives are a part of the Republican party in general, but the Republican party is who the title of opposition that will be running against the Democrat's belongs too.

Your timing is suspicious.

As are the other posting to VOTE FOR A THIRD CANDIDATE all the time...............

They know they can't turn us to the DARK SIDE..........so they hope we will throw our votes away............Which is why I showed Yoda.........who got Billy Boy elected.

 

[White 6]

You people have to stop using the word "conservative" when labeling people like Trump or even yourselves. There's a huge difference between republicans and conservatives. You know what those difference are. "Conservative" is off limits to you people. You can't have it.
The only time yall even act conservative is when a democrat is the potus or the dems have the majority.
When there's a republican in the white house, all yall do is grow the size of government and spend spend spend. Totally opposite of what conservatives stand for.
Fact: Trumps first two years in office, with a GOP majority in the House and Senate, yall funded not only planned parenthood. But also gender studies in Pakistan.

Here's a help. These two people are conservative. And were both pushed out of the GOP for actually trying to do things in a conservative way.
Example: Justin Amash was kicked off the congressional budget committee for trying to cut spending, by the GOP committee chairman, John Boehner.

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They shouldn't, any more than the title Republican, but they do. If it keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised to see distinct changes in actual dictionaries within 3 years, as ugly truth is further sanitized to make it more palatable. In my opinion, what it means to be a Republican has already changed for the most part and the term conservative is on the block. They keep both for familiarity of marketing appeal, to the broadbase, only.

 

[eagle1462010]

They shouldn't, any more than the title Republican, but they do. If it keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised to see distinct changes in actual dictionaries within 3 years, as ugly truth is further sanitized to make it more palatable. In my opinion, what it means to be a Republican has already changed for the most part and the term conservative is on the block. They keep both for familiarity of marketing appeal, to the broadbase, only.

Anyone who thinks we can pay back the massive debt is an IDIOT.......That is why we race for the Global Reset.........It's not just us who have been manipulating currency to Insanity.

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

 

[Tampa_Bay]

Libertarian is a political party. Conservative isn't. There are some very liberal libertarians. In fact, the LP has been overran with liberals and progressives. Which is why I dropped the LP. The same reason I dropped the GOP and the democratic party.

You're full of shit.

Libertarians are okay with legal drugs and prostitition and other filth. They are "Libertines". No morals.

As for Democrats: They are pro gay marriage (sodomy) transgender juk science, and they push it on kids.
Republicans do not engage in any of that filth.

All your crying is so much bullshit.

Do Republicans fuck shit up and have RINOs in the ranks? Yes.
Does that make them the same as filthy degenerate baby-killing Marxist Democrats? No it does not.

 

[YoursTruly]

Americans value freedom above responsibility. There must be a balance. Government regulation seeks to establish this balance by law.

The republicans installed the EPA, for a good reason. Back then, corporations and people were destroying a lot of our rivers and air. (A look at the LA sky for more proof) Since then, the EPA has been in the pockets of corporations like the oil companies. Sounds weird, I know, but hear me out.

With all the regulations that are in the oil/gas business, only the top oil companies can afford to do business with them in place. Which squelches any chance of smaller oil companies bringing in any real competition to the oil/gas industry.
It's the same way with the FDA. I used to haul Corrosive 8 and Flammable 3 into soft drink companies like Pepsi & Coke. And also into food manufacturers like Driers (ice cream), Wrigley's (candy). Somehow, they (lobbyist) paid off enough politicians to allow this crap into our food and drinks.

My point: Corporate lobbyist get what they want, through some government agency, because we have liberals and CINO's running the show.

Conservatism doesn't allow for this type of government influence. We rely on the actual free markets with just enough public safety. Safety from things that would actually harm the public and the environment. But not so much that it squelches actual free market capitalism.
Because the more small business grows, the better the economy is for everyone. Not to mention, the amount of better jobs that are available.
As for the food industry, keeping chemicals like I described above from getting into the mouths of the public, means fewer deaths, fewer cancer victims, fewer birth defects and all the other crap those chemical can do.

Over 600,000 new cases of cancer are discovered every year, now a days. Why? The bottom line is, and has always been money. Money from lobbyist. Conservatives reject lobbyist.

 

[YoursTruly]

Anyone who thinks we can pay back the massive debt is an IDIOT.......That is why we race for the Global Reset.........It's not just us who have been manipulating currency to Insanity.

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

You're so brainwashed, you actually believe that crap. It'll never get paid down as long as CINO's keep getting elected.

 

[Darkwind]

Since the GOP has outlawed conservativism, you're 100% correct.


Always take the money. If we had "conservative" republicans, that money wouldn't be coming from the Federal Reserve. It wouldn't be adding to the national debt, which lowers the actual value of the currency.
If conservatives had been running this country for say the last 50 years, $10hr would still be a decent wage. $100 would buy 300 times what todays $100 buys.
And corporations wouldn't have to leave the country to compete globally. And the budget would be balanced every year. And we would be only $1 trillion in debt, or maybe even zero yearly.
Government would be less than 1/2 it's size.

But the GOP keeps voting in CINO's instead of actual conservatives.
Republicans only say that want conservatives. But when it comes right down to it, they either don't know what a conservative is, or they secretly support the liberal ideology.
I've yet to see many republicans hold Trump accountable for all his spending.

I don't disagree with this, but I'll tell you what.

You define what a Conservative is and then show what a Conservative is through policy planks.

 

[eagle1462010]

The republicans installed the EPA, for a good reason. Back then, corporations and people were destroying a lot of our rivers and air. (A look at the LA sky for more proof) Since then, the EPA has been in the pockets of corporations like the oil companies. Sounds weird, I know, but hear me out.

With all the regulations that are in the oil/gas business, only the top oil companies can afford to do business with them in place. Which squelches any chance of smaller oil companies bringing in any real competition to the oil/gas industry.
It's the same way with the FDA. I used to haul Corrosive 8 and Flammable 3 into soft drink companies like Pepsi & Coke. And also into food manufacturers like Driers (ice cream), Wrigley's (candy). Somehow, they (lobbyist) paid off enough politicians to allow this crap into our food and drinks.

My point: Corporate lobbyist get what they want, through some government agency, because we have liberals and CINO's running the show.

Conservatism doesn't allow for this type of government influence. We rely on the actual free markets with just enough public safety. Safety from things that would actually harm the public and the environment. But not so much that it squelches actual free market capitalism.
Because the more small business grows, the better the economy is for everyone. Not to mention, the amount of better jobs that are available.
As for the food industry, keeping chemicals like I described above from getting into the mouths of the public, means fewer deaths, fewer cancer victims, fewer birth defects and all the other crap those chemical can do.

Over 600,000 new cases of cancer are discovered every year, now a days. Why? The bottom line is, and has always been money. Money from lobbyist. Conservatives reject lobbyist.

"Which ignores that Trump ended much of that within his first 2 years........He also stream lined the permit process......days instead of a half a year........He also ended the ban on Fracking by Obama

Guess you MISSED THAT MR. TDS................Oil production peaked and under Trump and the small Frackers oil output increased by about 5 million barrels a day. Which is about the EXPORT of ALL OF RUSSIA.


Your TDS gives you selective memory.

NOW THIS.

Federal Onshore and Offshore Oil and Gas Leasing Pause and Review - Harvard Law School

This page tracks the federal oil and gas leasing pause and related litigation. For more on these leasing programs, see our Onshore Leasing Page and Offshore Leasing Page. If you’re a reporter and would like to speak with an expert on this rule, please email us. Quick Take The IRA makes it hard...

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Jan. 20, 2021 DOI issues Secretarial Order No. 3395, announcing that the agency is temporarily suspending its authority to issue any onshore or offshore fossil fuel authorizations, including new lease sales, for 60 days.
Jan. 20, 2021 In Executive Order 13990, President Biden revokes the Trump Executive Order 13783 titled “Promoting Energy Independence and Economic Growth.” EO 13783 directed federal agencies to streamline the oil and gas leasing process and suspend, revise, or rescind regulations that burdened the development of domestic energy resources.
Jan. 27, 2021 President Biden signs Executive Order 14008, which pauses all new federal offshore and onshore oil and gas leasing pending a comprehensive review of the leasing and permitting program. The order also revokes Trump’s EO 13795.
Jan. 27, 2022 Western Energy Alliance petitions the District of Wyoming to review President Biden’s suspension of the oil and gas leasing program. Western Energy Alliance v. Biden, No. 0:21-cv-00013 (D. Wyo.).
March 15, 2021 The Biden administration asks the Ninth Circuit to dismiss the case reviewing President Obama’s withdrawing certain Arctic and Atlantic coastal areas from oil and gas leasing in light of President Biden revoking President Trump’s EO 13795 (the EO challenged in this case). The Biden administration asks the court to vacate the lower court ruling and remand with instructions to dismiss the case. League of Conservation Voters v. Trump, No. 19-35460 (9th Cir.).
March 24, 2021 Louisiana and twelve other states file a lawsuit challenging President Biden’s pause on new federal oil and gas lease sales arguing that the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act (OCSLA) and the current 5-year Leasing Program prohibit the moratorium. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
April 13, 2021 The Ninth Circuit dismisses the appeal of the March 29, 2019 decision by a federal judge to reinstate President Obama’s withdrawals of Arctic and Atlantic areas from oil and gas leasing because President Biden’s Executive Order 13990 revoking Trump’s EO 13795 rendered the appeal moot. League of Conservation Voters v. Trump, No. 19-35460 (9th Cir.).
June 15, 2021 A federal judge in the Western District of Louisiana issues a preliminary injunction blocking President Biden’s pause on oil and gas lease sales. The court holds that the leasing moratorium violates statutory authority given to DOI, the Bureau of Land Management, and BOEM under the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act and the current 5-year leasing program. The judge further holds that the immediate impact of the pause renders the preliminary injunction an appropriate remedy and that the DOI may not continue to pause upcoming Lease Sales 257 or 258. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
Aug. 9, 2021 Plaintiff states file a motion asking the court to order Lease Sale 257 and asking the federal government to show why its failure to make the sale does not put it in contempt of the preliminary injunction. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
Aug. 16, 2021 The Biden administration appeals the preliminary injunction that blocked the moratorium on new federal oil and gas leasing. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
Aug. 24, 2021 DOI announces that it will continue to prepare lease sales during the appeal process.
Aug. 24, 2021 The Department of Justice (DOJ) files a memorandum in response to the plaintiff states’ August 9 motion. DOJ argues that DOI had restarted the leasing program and was therefore complying with the preliminary injunction. DOJ further argues that the preliminary injunction did not require the Lease Sale to occur on any timeline, and the government was therefore entitled to complete a new environmental review. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
Aug. 31, 2021 Environmental groups file a lawsuit challenging DOI’s decision to hold Lease Sale 257 in the Gulf of Mexico, seeking vacatur and injunction of the sale. The groups argue that the sale of Lease 257 violates the NEPA and the APA and estimate that the sale “will result in the production of up to 1.12 billion barrels and 4.4 trillion cubic feet of fossil fuels over the next 50 years.” Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 1:21-cv-02317 (D.D.C.).
Sept. 17, 2021 Plaintiff states withdraw their motion to compel Lease Sale 257. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 2:21-CV-00778 (W.D. La.).
Oct. 4, 2021 BOEM publishes a notice in the federal register that it will open and publicly announce bids received for oil and gas leases in the Gulf of Mexico Outercontinental Gas Lease Sale 257 on Nov. 17, 2021.
Oct. 29, 2021 BOEM publishes a draft environmental impact statement (DEIS) for Lease Sale 258, which would offer leasing for oil and gas in Cook Inlet in the Gulf of Alaska. BOEM also announces a 45-day public comment period on the DEIS.
Nov. 17, 2021 BOEM holds its largest sale ever, the Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale 257 for 308 tracts, covering 1.07 million acres of federal waters in the Gulf. In approving the sale, the DOI claimed it was acting “consistent with a U.S. District Court’s preliminary injunction.” However, environmental groups argue that this sale was not required by the June 15 preliminary injunction. These groups contend that by not conducting a new environmental review like the DOJ memo suggested was allowed, the federal government sped up the lease sale and worked against its decarbonization goals.
Nov. 26, 2021 DOI issues a report reviewing the federal oil and gas leasing process and making recommendations for reform. The report finds, among other things, that the current system does not give taxpayers fair returns and does not fully account for environmental harm, and that the current system encourages speculation by and decreases competition among oil companies. The report outlines recommendations to fix these problems and concludes that DOI is deciding how it will act on these recommendations and encourages Congress to pass reforms to the oil and gas leasing process.
Dec. 3, 2021 Democratic members of the House Committee on Natural Resources file an amicus brief in support of environmental groups challenging the Gulf of Mexico lease sale, arguing that the administration’s environmental review “substantially underestimates” the environmental harms of the lease sale. The brief also argues that the nationwide injunction issued by the District Court for the Western District of Louisiana “in no way excused” DOI’s obligations under NEPA and the APA. Friends of the Earth, et al., v. Haaland, et al., No. 21-cv-02317-RC (D.D.C.).
Jan. 19, 2022 Over 360 environmental groups sent a legal petition to the Biden administration to reduce oil and gas drilling to 98% lower than current levels by 2035. The petition explains that, without action, it will be difficult for the United States to keep its pledge to keep global temperatures from rising beyond 1.5℃.
Jan. 20, 2022 Over 80 environmental organizations sign and send a letter to the Biden administration, which urges the Department of the Interior to write a new 5-year Offshore Lease Program that bans lease sales starting in 2022. The letter also calls on Secretary Haaland to repudiate Lease Sale 257.
Jan. 27, 2022 The District Court for the District of Columbia blocks Lease Sale 257 in the Gulf of Mexico because the Department of the Interior failed to take a “hard look” at the environmental impact of the project or to account for the effect of overseas fossil fuel use when calculating climate impacts, which violated the National Environmental Policy Act. Friends of the Earth, et al., v. Haaland, et al., No. 21-cv-02317-RC (D.D.C.). For more background on the ruling, see EELP’s overview of the NEPA Review Process or visit our NEPA Tracker Page for the most up to date review requirements.
Feb. 1, 2022 The Department of the Interior mistakenly posted language on its oil and gas webpage that indicated royalty fees for leases would increase to 18.75%. The Department later removed the language, and a spokesperson for the Department said the decision to increase royalty rates was not yet final.
Feb. 8, 2022 Intervenor defendant, the American Petroleum Institute files a notice of appeal with the D.C. Circuit, challenging the D.C District Court’s decision to block Lease Sale 257 in the Gulf of Mexico. Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 1:21-cv-02317 (D.D.C.).
Feb. 14, 2022 Louisiana, another intervenor defendant, files a notice of appeal in the D.C. Circuit case that blocked Lease Sale 257. Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 22-05037 (D.C. Cir).
Feb. 14, 2022 The Biden administration asks the 5th Circuit to reverse the Western District of Louisiana’s decision that blocked the Biden administration’s moratorium on new oil and gas drilling on federal lands and waters. Among other issues, the Biden administration argues that Biden’s Executive Order 14008 is both lawful and unreviewable and that the plaintiffs relied on erroneous interpretations of the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act and the Mineral Leasing Act. Louisiana v. Biden, Docket No. 21-30505 (5th Cir.)
Feb. 18, 2022 Environmental groups file a motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction in the D.C. Circuit case that blocked Lease Sale 257. Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 22-05037 (D.C. Cir).
Feb. 22, 2022 A federal judge in the Western District of Louisiana blocks the Biden administration’s application of an interim social cost of carbon metric., Louisiana v. Biden, No. 21-cv-01074 (W.D. La.). For updates on the metric and this litigation, see our Social Cost of Greenhouse Gases tracker page. In light of this decision, the Biden administration announces that it will delay decisions on new oil and gas drilling on federal lands.
Feb. 28, 2022 The Biden administration announces that it will not appeal the District Court’s decision that canceled Lease Sale 257 in the Gulf of Mexico. Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 1:21-cv-02317 (D.D.C.).
Mar. 8, 2022 The Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit denies an emergency motion by American Petroleum Institute to expedite the appeal of the District Court decision that canceled Lease Sale 257. Friends of the Earth, et al. v. Haaland, et al., Docket No. 22-05037 (D.C. Cir).
Apr. 15, 2022 To comply with the preliminary injunction issued by the court in Louisiana v. Biden, the DOI announces that the BLM will issue notices for lease sales that will increase in royalty rates from 12.5% to 18.75% and limit the acreage available for leasing. Though this round of lease sales will move forward, the Biden administration continues its appeal of that injunction. Louisiana et al v Biden et al, Docket No. 2:21-cv-00778 (W.D. La.).
April 18, 2022: The BLM publishes final environmental assessments and sale notices for June 2022 lease sales. The final sale notices reduces the acreage of land available for leasing on public lands by 80% and increased royalty rates. For offshore leases, the current 5-year program is scheduled to end on June 30, 2022.
Apr. 19, 2022: The plaintiffs in Western Energy Alliance v. Biden assert that the notice put forward by the Bureau of Land Management still violates the Mineral Leasing Act because BLM did not establish a reliable and predictable leasing system in the future. A hearing in that case is scheduled for May 13. Western Energy Alliance v. Biden, No. 0:21-cv-00013 (D. Wyo.).

 

[Pete7469]

As I stated in a another thread. If we are going to discuss an example of a conservative, start with Robert Taft.

I'd like it if Thomas Jefferson was the standard for "liberals".

 

[White 6]

Since the GOP has outlawed conservativism, you're 100% correct.


Always take the money. If we had "conservative" republicans, that money wouldn't be coming from the Federal Reserve. It wouldn't be adding to the national debt, which lowers the actual value of the currency.
If conservatives had been running this country for say the last 50 years, $10hr would still be a decent wage. $100 would buy 300 times what todays $100 buys.
And corporations wouldn't have to leave the country to compete globally. And the budget would be balanced every year. And we would be only $1 trillion in debt, or maybe even zero yearly.
Government would be less than 1/2 it's size.

But the GOP keeps voting in CINO's instead of actual conservatives.
Republicans only say that want conservatives. But when it comes right down to it, they either don't know what a conservative is, or they secretly support the liberal ideology.
I've yet to see many republicans hold Trump accountable for all his spending.

I like your use of "CINO". Not sure I have noticed it used before.

 

[YoursTruly]

You're full of shit.

Libertarians are okay with legal drugs and prostitition and other filth. They are "Libertines". No morals.

As for Democrats: They are pro gay marriage (sodomy) transgender juk science, and they push it on kids.
Republicans do not engage in any of that filth.

All your crying is so much bullshit.

Do Republicans fuck shit up and have RINOs in the ranks? Yes.
Does that make them the same as filthy degenerate baby-killing Marxist Democrats? No it does not.

Again, Libertarian is a political party. There are people like Rand Paul who support the Libertarian party platform, because it's more "conservative" than the GOP platform. Key word, "conservative," not libertarian.

A lot of the libertarians of today, are as batshit crazy as the progressives. In fact, I get the feeling that progressives have invaded the LP, like the CINO's invaded the original tea party of 2007 (and turned it into the batshit crazy tea party of 2009)

 

[eagle1462010]

You're so brainwashed, you actually believe that crap. It'll never get paid down as long as CINO's keep getting elected.

If you think that then you are AN IDIOT...........

No way that gets paid back and it is the TIP OF THE ICEBERG.................Bankers are leveraged to your URANUS............Right now the back drop of the WAR.......22 countries are dumping the dollar.

Try your games with the uninformed.

 

[YoursTruly]

I like your use of "CINO". Not sure I have noticed it used before.

It's not as visual as RINO.. You don't get the mental image of an elephant wanna be. But it still rings true with todays republican's.

 

[Pete7469]

I think the word should be totally struck from the political lexicon. Nobody is really a conservative.....Nobody.

I bet if I knew the person that claims different I could easily point out a baker's dozen ways why they are not.

Even the best of them would be more like small-L libertarians but every damn one of them would be taking .gov cash they should not really be getting one way or the other.

I'm no different in that regard either (I get SS along a state and a private pension) but but at least I'm honest enough to admit it.

LOL....I bet the so-called chest-thumping "conservatives" took all those Trump and Biden Bucks checks and ran to the bank with them.

I sure fuckin A took them deposits.

And bought a bunch of ammo among other things. Precious metals are going to be currency soon.

 

[BackAgain]

You people have to stop using the word "conservative" when labeling people like Trump or even yourselves. There's a huge difference between republicans and conservatives. You know what those difference are. "Conservative" is off limits to you people. You can't have it.
The only time yall even act conservative is when a democrat is the potus or the dems have the majority.
When there's a republican in the white house, all yall do is grow the size of government and spend spend spend. Totally opposite of what conservatives stand for.
Fact: Trumps first two years in office, with a GOP majority in the House and Senate, yall funded not only planned parenthood. But also gender studies in Pakistan.

Here's a help. These two people are conservative. And were both pushed out of the GOP for actually trying to do things in a conservative way.
Example: Justin Amash was kicked off the congressional budget committee for trying to cut spending, by the GOP committee chairman, John Boehner.

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I am a conservative. Oh, and also by choice, I’m a Republican. The Republicans aren’t always conservative however. And some people confuse the terms conservative and libertarian.

I confess there are aspects of libertarianism which I respect and admire. However, I’m not a libertarian, either.

 

[White 6]

Anyone who thinks we can pay back the massive debt is an IDIOT.......That is why we race for the Global Reset.........It's not just us who have been manipulating currency to Insanity.

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

BS. It is like any other mess, even on floor of an old factory, shop or the back bedroom/junk room. You start and keep going. It is the conservative thing to do and it works. But you don't just make a mad dash to clean up so you can move cooler full of beer, in by the door.

 

[eagle1462010]

Again, Liberation is a political party. There are people like Rand Paul who support the Libertarian party platform, because it's more "conservative" than the GOP platform. Key word, "conservative," not libertarian.

A lot of the libertarians of today, are as batshit crazy as the progressives. In fact, I get the feeling that progressives have invaded the LP, like the CINO's invaded the original tea party of 2007 (and turned it into the batshit crazy tea party of 2009)

RINOs invaded and used it to win the election.............HYJACKED IT..........

Then went back to being the Swamp creatures they are and always have been..............How do they all get into the millionaires club? PIXIE DUST...........Tell me about ROMNEY and UKRAINE and why he is JUST ANOTHER TDS BITCH?

He was feeding at the same trough as Hunter..............

Less Regulation.............Less Gov't interference..........Increased production at home...........lower taxes..............No new Wars.........Energy Independence............Conservative Judges...............ALL DONE UNDER TRUMP............

Frackers ..........small oil companies made bank that the Globalist CREATED A PLANNEDEMIC AND NEGATIVE oil to destroy them...........Now we pay out the ass for it because they are gone.

Trump did very good considering overcoming massive lawsuits and attacks..........then a WORLD LOCK DOWN killed the economy.