Hi, I'm Randy Thompson

[martybegan]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

 

[Dot Com]

The Native American claim is a bogus one. The pipeline is not crossing their lands.

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This shows the original boundaries and how they were changed in the early 1900's. The best way to view what appears on this map as blotches of fragmented parcels is with a google map search of the Rosebud reservation. You may have to zoom, but the are of red blotches are titiled off reservation trust lands and the individual parcels are easier to distinguish.

 

[mdk]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

 

[TooTall]

Coincidence?

Why does Harry Reid and Obama keep blocking the approval of the Keystone Tar Sands Pipeline?

For the Exact same reason!

 

[TooTall]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

What about Native American's?

The Native American claim is a bogus one. The pipeline is not crossing their lands.

State highways bring suckers to their Casino's and they have no objection to them.

 

[martybegan]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

In this day and age the domestic/international line has been blurred. Besides, Its fucking CANADA, they are like our maple syrup loving cousins.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Coincidence?

Day-yum! Well, they actually revised their article. So I posted the bullet points below of the top leaseholders.

The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada’s oil sands isn’t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It’s the Koch brothers.
The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada s oil sands isn t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It s the Koch brothers. - The Washington Post


●Cenovus Energy (Canada) 1.57 million* (includes rights to an air weapons range)

●Athabasca Oil Corp. (Canada) 1.56 million**

●Koch (U.S.) 1.12 million to 1.47 million***

●Canadian Natural Resources (Canada) 1 million*

●Suncor (Canada) 986,000****

 

[TooTall]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

 

[Dot Com]

Day-yum! Well, they actually revised their article. So I posted the bullet points below of the top leaseholders.

The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada’s oil sands isn’t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It’s the Koch brothers.
The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada s oil sands isn t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It s the Koch brothers. - The Washington Post


●Cenovus Energy (Canada) 1.57 million* (includes rights to an air weapons range)

●Athabasca Oil Corp. (Canada) 1.56 million**

●Koch (U.S.) 1.12 million to 1.47 million***

●Canadian Natural Resources (Canada) 1 million*

●Suncor (Canada) 986,000****

Well whaddaya know?!!! Now we know who The GObP works for and it aint their voters.

 

[Camp]

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

Reservation lands are not private lands. The are lands owned by the tribes which are sovereign nations. Treaties stipulate they have to be treated as such.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

Its funny that this is the first time we are hearing about all this crap, and yet there are tens of thousands of existing miles of pipeline crossing tens of thousands of miles of land, some of it private property that has been condemned.

This guy will also fight you if you want to force him to construct a wetland to protect the snot-nosed bugger lizard on his property, I wonder how many environmentalists would support him then.

Keystone is about that "sucking sound" coming from the north, this time, and the goods going out to sea in the south instead of being a homegrown-home sold product.

 

[TooTall]

Day-yum! Well, they actually revised their article. So I posted the bullet points below of the top leaseholders.

The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada’s oil sands isn’t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It’s the Koch brothers.
The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada s oil sands isn t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It s the Koch brothers. - The Washington Post


●Cenovus Energy (Canada) 1.57 million* (includes rights to an air weapons range)

●Athabasca Oil Corp. (Canada) 1.56 million**

●Koch (U.S.) 1.12 million to 1.47 million***

●Canadian Natural Resources (Canada) 1 million*

●Suncor (Canada) 986,000****

Well whaddaya know?!!! Now we know who The GObP works for and it aint their voters.

Now we know why Reid and Obama blocked Keystone for 6 years.

 

[TooTall]

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

Reservation lands are not private lands. The are lands owned by the tribes which are sovereign nations. Treaties stipulate they have to be treated as such.

That is why the pipeline does not cross any reservation lands.

 

[TooTall]

Day-yum! Well, they actually revised their article. So I posted the bullet points below of the top leaseholders.

The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada’s oil sands isn’t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It’s the Koch brothers.
The biggest foreign lease holder in Canada s oil sands isn t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It s the Koch brothers. - The Washington Post


●Cenovus Energy (Canada) 1.57 million* (includes rights to an air weapons range)

●Athabasca Oil Corp. (Canada) 1.56 million**

●Koch (U.S.) 1.12 million to 1.47 million***

●Canadian Natural Resources (Canada) 1 million*

●Suncor (Canada) 986,000****

Well whaddaya know?!!! Now we know who The GObP works for and it aint their voters.

They work for all Americans since energy independence from middle eastern oil even benefits Democrats.

 

[mdk]

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

In this day and age the domestic/international line has been blurred. Besides, Its fucking CANADA, they are like our maple syrup loving cousins.

Though I do love Canada and it's people your argument isn't exactly very compelling.

 

[mdk]

This sums up my position rather nicely. Cheers!

So basically you support nothing ever getting done involving massive public works.

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

I am well aware of how eminent domain is used and why it's used. Forcing American citizens to surrender their land against their will and giving it to a foreign corporation is bullshit. Find a way to go around them. I am sure some of their neighbors may be willing to part with some land...for the right price.

 

[Camp]

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

Reservation lands are not private lands. The are lands owned by the tribes which are sovereign nations. Treaties stipulate they have to be treated as such.

That is why the pipeline does not cross any reservation lands.

I have not seen the map that shows the exact detailed route that shows the pipeline avoiding all "allotment" and trust lands, have you? Do you have a link to that map? And how does that claim hold up when the tribe has never accepted the borders of the 1910 treaty to be a valid treaty. The treaty that was voted on and approved by the tribe was changed by congress three times without seeking further approval or voting from the tribe. This means the tribe still maintains the pre 1910 boundaries. If their argument holds up the pipe line absolutely crosses reservation land.

 

[TooTall]

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

Reservation lands are not private lands. The are lands owned by the tribes which are sovereign nations. Treaties stipulate they have to be treated as such.

That is why the pipeline does not cross any reservation lands.

I have not seen the map that shows the exact detailed route that shows the pipeline avoiding all "allotment" and trust lands, have you? Do you have a link to that map? And how does that claim hold up when the tribe has never accepted the borders of the 1910 treaty to be a valid treaty. The treaty that was voted on and approved by the tribe was changed by congress three times without seeking further approval or voting from the tribe. This means the tribe still maintains the pre 1910 boundaries. If their argument holds up the pipe line absolutely crosses reservation land.

As I previously stated, If they are paying the property taxes, they own the land. If someone else is paying those taxes, their claim to the land is useless. If the state or the federal government owns the land, It is a toss up.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Not hardly. Taking land from a private citizen and handing it over to a corporation; domestic or foreign, is not a just reason to invoke eminent domain in my opinion.

Back in the 90's the mayor of Pittsburgh proposed redeveloping the 5th and Forbes corridor downtown by the use of eminent domain. It went over like stone furniture. Eminent domain is for highways and bridges not Tiffany's.

I support the pipeline but if these folks want the pipe to not cross their land then they should not be forced to do so.

Its also used for power lines, which are owned by companies, railroads, which are owned by companies, and has been used for plenty of other utility lines which are owned by companies.

Domestic companies. Forcing people to sell their land for the use of a foreign company is nonsense. Find a way to go around them.

"Eminent domain is the power to take private property for public use, by a state or a national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations, when they are authorized to exercise the functions of public character.

The property may be taken either for government use or by delegation to third parties, who will devote it to public or civic use or, in some cases, to economic development. The most common uses of property taken by eminent domain are for government buildings and other facilities, public utilities, highways, and railroads."

Reservation lands are not private lands. The are lands owned by the tribes which are sovereign nations. Treaties stipulate they have to be treated as such.

That is why the pipeline does not cross any reservation lands.

Huh....whaaa?

 

[Siete]

I fully support the Keystone pipeline, but I absolutely oppose forcing landowners to let the pipeline cross their lands.

No fricking hippie is ever going to convince me that Keystone XL is a bad thing. But a landowning cowboy can.

Its funny that this is the first time we are hearing about all this crap, and yet there are tens of thousands of existing miles of pipeline crossing tens of thousands of miles of land, some of it private property that has been condemned.

This guy will also fight you if you want to force him to construct a wetland to protect the snot-nosed bugger lizard on his property, I wonder how many environmentalists would support him then.

unlike Republicans on this board i'll tell both sides of the story regardless ....

in the last 40 years pipe line spills are VERY rare .. FACT !

however .. Keystone recorded 14 spills in their first year, 11 of which I have on record ... just ask.