High Speed Rail?,So Will Alexandria Cortez & Friends Help Build This Monstrosity?

[bendog]

China has 18,000 miles of High Speed Rail

High-speed rail in China - Wikipedia

I remember when we used to mock China for being a backward nation. Over the last 20 years, China has invested heavily in modern infrastructure. High Speed Rail, solar and wind power, modernized power grids

Meanwhile, the US has sold out to supply side economics and has invested in tax cuts for billionaires

China has total control to do what it wants. Not so here. And you spout like it is the world leader in pollution control.

The US has control of its tax structure. Slashing taxes and expecting the private sector to pick up the slack has not worked
China still has a heavy reliance on coal. But unlike the US, they realize they need to move away from coal

It is China, not the US that leads the world in solar power research. The US just laughs and says Drill Baby, Drill

the GOP is invested in not investing in any rail because .... train travel makes zero sense in flyover country, with a few exceptions.

But the GOP is never going to invest in commuting trains from NYC to Conn, or even DC to NYC, because they're blue. Christie and Trump even cut train travel from NJ to NYC, and THAT is fucking busy. And that is where the major ridership is.

I'm all for not burning hydrocarbons when it's not necessary and not cost effective. But people will want to do what is most convenient for themselves, and as a Brit once said "you Americans love your motorcars." I'm leery of any high speed because the major problem with trains is their coexisting with cars. The roads are already there. But I posted before that a lot of time savings can be had with express trains in urban areas that just don't do local stops.

I don't see why private trains are inherently better than public. Air travel would not exist without public funding of airports and flight control and security. When there's competition for passengers, competition probably keeps costs down, and people would rather be packed like lemmings than pay more.

Right now, the only economically viable rail lines are the Northeast corridor.
The Acela is what we hold up as “high speed rail”. It is 1970s technology.

Well I think Chi - NYC turns a profit. But by and large I agree, and that's really the point. Our kids will be dead before there's any chance we'll embrace long distance train travel. But it makes a lot of sense it it's an alternative to being in traffic gridlock or a short flight where the time of getting to the airport and ticketing, security, waiting to take off ..... way outweighs the actual airtime. One can take a train from NYC to Philly in about an hour, with is wayyyyy better than driving. And that's just an express and not high speed.

I just don't know that a train going 100mph if feasible in the NE and the ridership isn't there for long hauls.

But for the gop/Trumpbots to piss all over train travel is typically .... stupid, ignorant and they're buying shit from elitists who have a money interest in keeping them ignorant and stupid.

 

[Polishprince]

The NFL uses leather.
Only cheap toy and practice footballs are made from rubber.

Hooray for the NFL. Not everyone can afford a leather football.

BTW, know what the inner bladder of a leather football is made of?

'Footballs still have an internal bladder, but today they're made of polyurethane or rubber.'
'Today's football is an inflated rubber bladder enclosed in a pebble-grained leather cover or cowhide.'

Some footballs are made of natural rubber, coming from a tree, while others are from fossil fuel-created rubber.

They're only $120 bucks.

$120 is a lot for a kid to play football in the street.

 

[easyt65]

They're only $120 bucks.

'ONLY $120'?!

You know some families still have to decide between food, electricity, and medication, right?!

 

[danielpalos]

Rail travel in the US

Tax cut economics is worthless if it doesn't cover funding for upgrading our railroads to one hundred miles per hour.

 

[OldLady]

100% for high speed rail. Jobs, clean, efficient. Who are these oil company shills here? Either that or just reactionary to any forward thinking idea.

No, not apt to fall for a billion dollar project that ends up costing three billion and nobody rides. American's like the privacy and time alone in their car instead of having to rub elbows with the smelly beasts on public transits. And remember, the faster a train is going, the longer it takes to stop so if Fred and Ethel get stalled on the tracks, with a bullet train there won't even be time to get out and run.... they'll be goo, collected with a putty knife and a sponge.

This is hilarious.
People love the privacy of their cars so much, that's why they fly all over the continental United States. A comfortable, fast and reliable system of getting from Point A to Point B (flying just isn't comfortable or even reliable anymore) would be packed. Packed.

Flying is the fasted way possible to get from point A to point B at the cheapest price. There are shorter distances where you could make an argument. However the routes must be in mostly a near straight direction. We sue and litigate in this country for every thing. What is this to you? Why do you take glee in interfering in others? Trains in our nation are not money makers. And cost a lot. Even city trains and subways are heavily subsidized even though efficient there. They can not even build new subway lines today without massive costs associated to it as labor in the past is not the same as labor today.

How am I interfering in others? What's this got to do with suing anyone? You lost me.

I'm not sure the government should be the one to take charge of building it, but high speed rail to take individual cars off the road would be good in so many ways. If you build it, people will ride it, and it will be profitable.

 

[anynameyouwish]

So the genuis Cortez is all giddy over the thought/dream of high speed rail all over the USA !!, no more long 4/5 hour flights! Yah !!!. But did she ever give thought to what a pain it would be to construct god only knows how many miles of this train project before its finally done. And who is going to build it? Building super highway systems is a pain in the ass, takes years!
Did the Genius Cortez even consider this burden/dilemma before she dreamed it up? So who will build this high speed train system? "The Little People",,while Cortez is living up a 5 start luxury life-style in 2030?

I've been searching all over the internet for your article denouncing the MILLIONS/BILLIONS of tax payer dollars being used building football stadiums all over the country.

I can't find it.


Where is it?

 

[anynameyouwish]

So do you Luddites have STOCK in buggy whip manufacturers?

How will she get the military to stop flying?

ask her how she expects to build a bridge from LA to Hawaii

Like sarah palins bridge?

 

[easyt65]

But for the gop/Trumpbots to piss all over train travel is typically .... stupid, ignorant and they're buying shit from elitists who have a money interest in keeping them ignorant and stupid.

No one is 'pissing all over train travel', snowflake, but way to exaggerate just to attack people who do not agree with you / AOC's ridiculous idea of high speed rail that eliminates the airline industry / planes.

Pointing out the existing railway system we have has lost $45 BILLION in tax payer dollars in the 40 years it has existed is not 'pissing on train travel' - it's trying to educate stupid socialist fantasy-supporting snowflakes who are motivated by emotion instead of facts, as you demonstrated by that last rant above.

 

[easyt65]

So the genuis Cortez is all giddy over the thought/dream of high speed rail all over the USA !!, no more long 4/5 hour flights! Yah !!!. But did she ever give thought to what a pain it would be to construct god only knows how many miles of this train project before its finally done. And who is going to build it? Building super highway systems is a pain in the ass, takes years!
Did the Genius Cortez even consider this burden/dilemma before she dreamed it up? So who will build this high speed train system? "The Little People",,while Cortez is living up a 5 start luxury life-style in 2030?

I've been searching all over the internet for your article denouncing the MILLIONS/BILLIONS of tax payer dollars being used building football stadiums all over the country.

I can't find it.


Where is it?

Look up the on-going Ca High Speed Rail Project. I found it easily the other day and posted it .It will give you a good idea at the cost and ass-pain of just going from LA to San Fran is. Just that distance with that little of track is going to reportedly take 14 years. AOC says she wants infinitely more than that....plus every building in the US upgraded or rebuilt and more...in only 10 years.

 

[Redfish]

So the genuis Cortez is all giddy over the thought/dream of high speed rail all over the USA !!, no more long 4/5 hour flights! Yah !!!. But did she ever give thought to what a pain it would be to construct god only knows how many miles of this train project before its finally done. And who is going to build it? Building super highway systems is a pain in the ass, takes years!
Did the Genius Cortez even consider this burden/dilemma before she dreamed it up? So who will build this high speed train system? "The Little People",,while Cortez is living up a 5 start luxury life-style in 2030?

I especially want to see how the railroad to Europe will be built and how a solar and wind powered train would operate.

 

[easyt65]

Tax cut economics is worthless if it doesn't cover funding for upgrading our railroads to one hundred miles per hour.

You think we are not throwing enough tax dollars at AMTRAK - $45 BILLION in 40 years, THAT is the problem?

Bwuhahahaha

 

[22lcidw]

100% for high speed rail. Jobs, clean, efficient. Who are these oil company shills here? Either that or just reactionary to any forward thinking idea.

No, not apt to fall for a billion dollar project that ends up costing three billion and nobody rides. American's like the privacy and time alone in their car instead of having to rub elbows with the smelly beasts on public transits. And remember, the faster a train is going, the longer it takes to stop so if Fred and Ethel get stalled on the tracks, with a bullet train there won't even be time to get out and run.... they'll be goo, collected with a putty knife and a sponge.

This is hilarious.
People love the privacy of their cars so much, that's why they fly all over the continental United States. A comfortable, fast and reliable system of getting from Point A to Point B (flying just isn't comfortable or even reliable anymore) would be packed. Packed.

Flying is the fasted way possible to get from point A to point B at the cheapest price. There are shorter distances where you could make an argument. However the routes must be in mostly a near straight direction. We sue and litigate in this country for every thing. What is this to you? Why do you take glee in interfering in others? Trains in our nation are not money makers. And cost a lot. Even city trains and subways are heavily subsidized even though efficient there. They can not even build new subway lines today without massive costs associated to it as labor in the past is not the same as labor today.

How am I interfering in others? What's this got to do with suing anyone? You lost me.

I'm not sure the government should be the one to take charge of building it, but high speed rail to take individual cars off the road would be good in so many ways. If you build it, people will ride it, and it will be profitable.

You think that all of our places we live has no issues about ideas. Those tracks have to go somewhere. And running through communities who like what they got is expensive. Look up the trial of the California hig speed line. It is not straight. It zigs and zags and the cots is going up incredibly. This is how you interfere becuase you will charge me for something Americans hate. Lawsuits happen for right of way. I hope you are founded now.

 

[Lesh]

AOC's ridiculous idea of high speed rail that eliminates the airline industry

Stop being stupid.

No one is going to "eliminate the airline industry" and stop making that retarded claim in your attack on technological advancement and AOC.

You fuckers are going to have be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century huh...

 

[Polishprince]

Well I think Chi - NYC turns a profit. But by and large I agree, and that's really the point. Our kids will be dead before there's any chance we'll embrace long distance train travel. But it makes a lot of sense it it's an alternative to being in traffic gridlock or a short flight where the time of getting to the airport and ticketing, security, waiting to take off ..... way outweighs the actual airtime. One can take a train from NYC to Philly in about an hour, with is wayyyyy better than driving. And that's just an express and not high speed.

I just don't know that a train going 100mph if feasible in the NE and the ridership isn't there for long hauls.

But for the gop/Trumpbots to piss all over train travel is typically .... stupid, ignorant and they're buying shit from elitists who have a money interest in keeping them ignorant and stupid.

If someone is at Penn Station in New York City and they want to go to the train station in Philadelphia, sure its a lot more convenient.

But even there, if someone has to travel a distance to get to Penn Station and whose ultimate destination is in the Philadelphia suburbs, it becomes a lot less convenient and easy. Automobiles provide door to door service at a schedule that the driver determines- no transportation to or from train stations, no waiting on the train to arrive.

 

[Lesh]

Tax cut economics is worthless if it doesn't cover funding for upgrading our railroads to one hundred miles per hour.

You think we are not throwing enough tax dollars at AMTRAK - $45 BILLION in 40 years, THAT is the problem?

Bwuhahahaha

How much do we throw at the airline industry stupid...

 

[easyt65]

 

[Polishprince]

AOC's ridiculous idea of high speed rail that eliminates the airline industry

Stop being stupid.

No one is going to "eliminate the airline industry" and stop making that retarded claim in your attack on technological advancement and AOC.

You fuckers are going to have be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century huh...

Since when are trains the 21st Century? Maybe we can have a course in school to teach the kids to become pullman porters?

 

[OldLady]

Taking even 1 second to consider AOC's insane sci-fi fantasy Liberal Wet Dream plan proves snowflakes don't have the common sense or IQ God gave to a doorknob. It is obvious that you have not or either are not capable of intelligent thought, of understanding the big picture, or of thinking this all through.

ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS:
- NOT possible. Even if it were it would mean the total destruction of the US as a leading energy / economic / Industrial country.

MAKING AMERICA VENEZUELA:
Venezuela used to be the richest nation in South America, sitting on vast oil reserves reportedly larger than the US has. Sitting on that 'gold mine', and after 'nationalizing' it and handing its control over to the Socialists, Venezuelans are now digging through the trash and eating their pets to stave off starving to death.

WAR ON 'COW FARTS'?!
- 'SERIOUSLY? 'NUFF SAID!

ABANDONING FOSSIL FUELS / NUCLEAR POWER IS 'NATIONAL SUICIDE':
- NO more CARS, PLANES, TRUCKS, SHIPS, etc.... DO SNOWFLAKES REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS?
*** Approximately 7 MILLION Americans associated with making cars, making car parts, selling cars, selling car parts, selling rubber tires, etc.. are out of work.

*** Every American associated with making planes, plane parts, etc... are out of a job...Airlines would collapse as air travel 'ceased being necessary'...Anyone working for the airline industry - pilots, co-pilots, maintenance crews, baggage handlers, flight attendants, ticket counter workers, TSA...is out of a job.

*** Taxi Companies all over America will be out of business...unless they can afford to go out and buy all new electric cars

*** Every American having any job related to Natural Gas...is out of a job

*** Every American having a job dealing with electric energy...is out of a job

*** Many of these products will be gone and those who make / sell them will be out of work / hit hard:
Solvents, Diesel fuel, Motor Oil, Bearing Grease, Ink, Floor Wax, Ballpoint Pens, Football Cleats, Upholstery, Sweaters, Boats, Insecticides,
Bicycle Tires, Sports Car Bodies, Nail Polish, Fishing lures, Dresses, Tires, Golf Bags, Perfumes, Cassettes, Dishwasher parts, Tool Boxes, Shoe Polish, Motorcycle Helmets, Caulking, Petroleum Jelly, Transparent Tape, CD Player, Faucet Washers, Antiseptics, Clothesline, Curtains, Food Preservatives, Basketballs, Vitamin Capsules, Antihistamines, Purses, Shoes, Dashboards, Cortisone, Deodorant, Footballs, Putty, Dyes, Panty Hose, Refrigerant, Percolators, Life Jackets, Rubbing Alcohol, Linings, Skis, TV Cabinets, Shag Rugs, Electrician’s Tape, Tool Racks, Car Battery Cases, Epoxy Paint, Mops, Slacks, Insect Repellent, Oil Filters....and much more

MILITARY:
Say goodbye to those Nuclear subs and hello to a self-imposed leap backwards behind other militaries, like Russia's. )I am sure we will do just fine with electric, solar powered, or wind-driven ships and submarines. )

FOREIGN POLICY / ALLIES:
Trump blasted Germany not long ago for having NATO for protection from Russia while at the same time placing its head in the lion's mouth by relying on Russia for Natural Gas, especially when we have an abundance to sell? Well, AOC's plan would leave allies with no where else to turn except on their knees to Russia for their natural gas.

WIND / SOLAR:
Alternate sources of energy account for a lowly 11% of the energy we use. Even now using fossil fuels California has rolling black outs. Attempting to run an industrialized nation like the US using solar and wind energy, dependent on atmospheric / weather conditions would almost be impossible. If you think those rolling blackouts in California are bad - try them across the entire US while trying to run an industry!

Not to mention AOC even admitted her plan relies on technology that has not even been invented yet and that it is fiscally impossible to pay for everything proposed in her plan, even if it was do-able, which it is not.

Holy , Batman?!

Good thing the Wright brothers and Henry Ford didn't think like you.

I'm sure AOC's plan is pretty out there, but I've always been a proponent of building the train system, not decimating it. It is a relatively environmentally sound way to carry large numbers of people or cargo from one place to another. High speed rail would be awesome.

 

[Redfish]

100% for high speed rail. Jobs, clean, efficient. Who are these oil company shills here? Either that or just reactionary to any forward thinking idea.

No, not apt to fall for a billion dollar project that ends up costing three billion and nobody rides. American's like the privacy and time alone in their car instead of having to rub elbows with the smelly beasts on public transits. And remember, the faster a train is going, the longer it takes to stop so if Fred and Ethel get stalled on the tracks, with a bullet train there won't even be time to get out and run.... they'll be goo, collected with a putty knife and a sponge.

This is hilarious.
People love the privacy of their cars so much, that's why they fly all over the continental United States. A comfortable, fast and reliable system of getting from Point A to Point B (flying just isn't comfortable or even reliable anymore) would be packed. Packed.

Flying is the fasted way possible to get from point A to point B at the cheapest price. There are shorter distances where you could make an argument. However the routes must be in mostly a near straight direction. We sue and litigate in this country for every thing. What is this to you? Why do you take glee in interfering in others? Trains in our nation are not money makers. And cost a lot. Even city trains and subways are heavily subsidized even though efficient there. They can not even build new subway lines today without massive costs associated to it as labor in the past is not the same as labor today.

How am I interfering in others? What's this got to do with suing anyone? You lost me.

I'm not sure the government should be the one to take charge of building it, but high speed rail to take individual cars off the road would be good in so many ways. If you build it, people will ride it, and it will be profitable.

You think that all of our places we live has no issues about ideas. Those tracks have to go somewhere. And running through communities who like what they got is expensive. Look up the trial of the California hig speed line. It is not straight. It zigs and zags and the cots is going up incredibly. This is how you interfere becuase you will charge me for something Americans hate. Lawsuits happen for right of way. I hope you are founded now.

don't be disappointed if she isn't. she is one of the useful idiots of the left.

 

[Lesh]

Well I think Chi - NYC turns a profit. But by and large I agree, and that's really the point. Our kids will be dead before there's any chance we'll embrace long distance train travel. But it makes a lot of sense it it's an alternative to being in traffic gridlock or a short flight where the time of getting to the airport and ticketing, security, waiting to take off ..... way outweighs the actual airtime. One can take a train from NYC to Philly in about an hour, with is wayyyyy better than driving. And that's just an express and not high speed.

I just don't know that a train going 100mph if feasible in the NE and the ridership isn't there for long hauls.

But for the gop/Trumpbots to piss all over train travel is typically .... stupid, ignorant and they're buying shit from elitists who have a money interest in keeping them ignorant and stupid.

If someone is at Penn Station in New York City and they want to go to the train station in Philadelphia, sure its a lot more convenient.

But even there, if someone has to travel a distance to get to Penn Station and whose ultimate destination is in the Philadelphia suburbs, it becomes a lot less convenient and easy. Automobiles provide door to door service at a schedule that the driver determines- no transportation to or from train stations, no waiting on the train to arrive.

Ohh no!

You mean when we fly around the country...we always get stuck at the airport and have to just turn around and come home?

Fucking dunces