Highway Crisis looms if Congress does not act

[JimH52]

What happened is fuel consumption plummeted & repair cost increase. We have been subsidizing the highway system from the SS Trust Fund for too long now. It's time it paid it's own way.

AND the 18 cents a gallon has not increased in 20 years. That means that though the dot com boom, the inflation, and the years of milk and honey, the rate has stayed the same. It probably should be at least doubled to stay close to real construction costs. But now that the RW loons and the Baggers refuse to raise one cent of a tax rate, we are screwed.

In my community I can see a number of highway construction projects that are federally funded which will stop dead.

So shouldn't your highways be taken care of by your state instead of the feds? Because I don't personally give a fuck about your roads, they are your problem and the games the feds make you play to get the money is pathetic.

Raise your tax rate all you want. I don't feel the need to pay more for your problems. Raise your state taxes all you want. Leave the rest of us out of your problems.

Think about that the next time you cross a bridge on the way to work.

 

[Warrior102]

How much gas tax increase is involved here? Some of you jackasses think a signature buils roads. News for ya - it doesnt
It takes money
Right out if your fucking wallets

 

[Freewill]

States should be responsible for their own highways.

They are, the feds built the interstate highways, thus it is the federal government's to maintain.

 

[Freewill]

Hell I can't seem to drive on an interstate without running into road work. Besides isn't those types of projects exactly why we threw our grandchildren into massive debt? Wasn't the stimulus used for these programs?

 

[OnePercenter]

No Ford didn't, they were forced to but didn't need or want it. Another talking point you have no real answer for other than your pathetic ramblings on this board.

THEY is the consumer. They get to pay not only higher prices for products with a fuel tax increase but they actually get to pay even more for their own transportation. It's like being fucked over twice. Well there's actually a third screwing coming. The extra money will never get to the roads. It will get sucked up into the government cesspool of incompetence and your car will be going down the road like it's on a pot hole ridden slot car track.

Nice job moron. You have perfected the trifecta of fucking the average person.

OK, Ford didn’t file bankruptcy or get bailed out by Uncle Sam, but didn’t it receive $5.9 billion in low-cost government loans in 2009 to overhaul its factories and bring out more fuel-efficient technology? What would have happened to Ford if Congress hadn’t authorized taxpayer money to fund that $25 billion Energy Department program during a moment of crisis for the industry?

It’s hard to say, of course, but the fact is, with the aid of that taxpayer loan and a well-timed bank loan of $23 billion, Ford managed to tiptoe past the graveyard and avoid bankruptcy. Since then, it has run its business well and reduced its debt from $33.6 billion to $12.2 billion.


Ford Looks Hypocritical In New Anti-Bailout Commercial - Forbes





Ford's Bailout Proposal

Ford requested a $9 billion line-of-credit from the government, and a $5 billion loan from the Energy Department. It pledged to accelerate development of both hybrid and battery-powered vehicles, retool plants to increase production of smaller cars, close dealerships, and sell Volvo. Ford is in better shape than the other two because it had already mortgaged its assets in 2006 to raise $24.5 billion. Although Ford didn't need, and didn't receive any funds, it also didn't want its competition to get the upper hand thanks to the government bailout.

Government Bailout of Ford GM Chrysler and the Auto Industry

And there you go. They kept the door open because the government decided to get into the auto business and help the competition.

Your rant is done.

Sorry Az, you're done.

Ford Would Have Shut Without Auto Bailouts, Rattner Says - Bloomberg

 

[auditor0007]

States should be responsible for their own highways.

So you want all highways to become toll roads? Okay. Of course the price of all consumer goods will then increase as shipping costs are passed on to the consumer.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

States should be responsible for their own highways.

So you want all highways to become toll roads? Okay. Of course the price of all consumer goods will then increase as shipping costs are passed on to the consumer.

How does it happen that states being responsible for their roadways automatically means that all would be toll roads?

 

[Dad2three]

I read fine. No mention of commercial trucking revenues.

THERE ARE LINKS, IT'S A STUDY, Of course trucking revenues are considered part of gas taxes *sheesh*

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/pubs/hf/pl11028/chapter6.cfm

I read the linked story, buib. I am not going to play chase the links, especially when all you link to are partisan leftist sources.

All you have done here is show that America does not pay the exorbitant fuel taxes that Europeans do. Thing is that the fuel taxes in European countries go toward all sorts of things that are not related to road building and maintenance. America has the same problem, only to a lesser extent.

To repeat, once you get all the taxes collected going to roads and bridges, rather than funneling them into pet progressive mass transit boondoggles, then you can complain. Until then, quit your whining and begging.

Got it, as a right winger, you don't want to be confused with REAL facts and data, you prefer your self induced delusion

Highways don’t pay for themselves.

Since 1947, the amount of money spent on highways, roads and streets has exceeded the amount raised through gasoline taxes and other so-called “user fees” by $600 billion (2005 dollars), representing a massive transfer of general government funds to highways.

Highways “pay for themselves” less today than ever. Currently, highway “user fees” pay only about half the cost of building and maintaining the nation’s network of highways, roads and streets.


Do Roads Pay for Themselves? | Frontier Group

 

[Dad2three]

I guess ABC executives only travel by air and their low information minions don't travel at all. In the last couple of years the biggest problem on the interstates is freaking construction. Infrastructure repair is ongoing and constant. The freaking city of San Fran authorized 75 million for a net to catch depressed Californians when they jump off the Golden Gate. When the administration is in trouble you can depend on their propaganda arm in the media to create a fake crisis that they can blame on the republican majority in congress.

So if they spend ANY money or work on ANY roads it means there's not really a problem with infrastructure in the US although the they got a D rating?


America's GPA: D+

The American Society of Civil Engineers is committed to protecting the health, safety, and welfare of the public, and as such, is equally committed to improving the nation’s public infrastructure. To achieve that goal, the Report Card depicts the condition and performance of the nation’s infrastructure in the familiar form of a school report card—assigning letter grades that are based on physical condition and needed fiscal investments for improvement.


STILL waiting for your response to FALSELY saying Barney and F/F caused Dubya's great recession!

Will 2015 = 2008? - Page 3 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Dad2three]

Yes actually that's exactly how it works. The more you tax the less of that something you will be selling.

Something you aren't comprehending in your little chart in this thread is that yes the cost of ownership of a vehicle is very high in europe. But that doesn't result in people getting better roads for their awesome new cars. They run around in crap cars or mopeds. You know why? Because the average person can't afford a real car in europe. They have been taxed out of being able to afford decent transportation.

If you shake your head hard enough maybe the cob webs will fall out. And then you can do something to make sure your three kids actually get to live better than the european's.

Bush CEA Chair Mankiw: Claim That Broad-Based Income Tax Cuts Increase Revenue Is Not "Credible," Capital Income Tax Cuts Also Don't Pay For Themselves

Bush-Appointed Federal Reserve Chair Bernanke: "I Don't Think That As A General Rule Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson: "As A General Rule, I Don't Believe That Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Bush OMB Director Nussle: "Some Say That [The Tax Cut] Was A Total Loss. Some Say They Totally Pay For Themselves. It's Neither Extreme."


Bush CEA Chairman Lazear: "As A General Rule, We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Bush Economic Adviser Viard: "Federal Revenue Is Lower Today Than It Would Have Been Without The Tax Cuts."


Bush Treasury Official Carroll: "We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Reagan Chief Economist Feldstein: "It's Not That You Get More Revenue By Lowering Tax Rates, It Is That You Don't Lose As Much."

Feldstein In 1986: "Hyperbole" That Reagan Tax Cut "Would Actually Increase Tax Revenue."

Conservative Economist Holtz-Eakin: "No Serious Research Evidence" Suggests Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Tax Foundation's Prante: "A Stretch" To Claim "Cutting Capital Gains Taxes Raises Tax Revenues."




Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950


Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 - USATODAY.com

Since none of your links worked but one I guess I will address that one and put it on you to figure out how to post a link properly. Although I'm certain you can't because you copied and pasted someone else's failure of research.

"Some conservative political movements such as the "Tea Party" have criticized federal spending as being out of control. While spending is up, taxes have fallen to exceptionally low levels."

Fed spending is out of control. Taxes fell a bit. gee thanks but this article from 2010 is trying to excuse son of stimulus by then as being needed. Nowhere did the actual spending drop to an exceptable level. Isn't this also about the time we all got butt fucked with obiecare?

'Individual tax rates vary widely based on how much a taxpayer earns, where the person lives and other factors. On average, though, the tax rate paid by all Americans — rich and poor, combined — has fallen 26% since the recession began in 2007. That means a $3,400 annual tax savings for a household paying the average national rate and earning the average national household income of $102,000.

This tax drop has boosted consumer spending and the economy, which grew at a 3.2% annual rate in the first quarter. It also has contributed to the federal debt growing to $8.4 trillion'

Kind of funny how those numbers today would be much better than what we have to live with now. But they surely are a historical perspective of what will happen if the government keeps doing the same stupid shit over and over again like you are asking for.

Those very policies have caused the situation we are in today. The people that had jobs and were paying less taxes no longer have those jobs. The payday came and took them away.

The economy grew at 3.2% today we have -2%.

The debt is the only thing steady here. It is now not an astonishing 8.4 trillion but an ungodly 18 trillion.

Yet you still want all in at trying this again without the tax cuts. The only thing that kept the economy moving. And worse yet you want to do it with more taxes and even more government spending.

ASK FOR ANY LINK THAT DIDN'T WORK, I'LL GET IF FOR YOU BUBBNA!



Got it, you'll stick with consdervatives 'math'

Obama's first F/Y

National Debt Oct 1, 2009 $11,920,519,164,319.42


Economic Downturn and Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Projected Deficits

Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook

Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for nearly $6 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019 (including associated debt-service costs of $1.4 trillion). By 2019, we estimate that these two policies will account for almost half — over $8 trillion — of the $17 trillion in debt that will be owed under current policies

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits ? Center on Budget and Policy Priorities



THIS LINK WORKS

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950


Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950 - USATODAY.com


AS DOES THIS ONE


The average filer saw her effective tax rate drop from 22 percent in 1979 to 18.1 percent in 2010

Your taxes are really low, in one chart - The Washington Post



AS DOES THIS ONE

CBO: Fed tax rates hit historic low

The average tax rates for American households reached a historical low in 2009, according to a report issued by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.

Indeed, federal taxes for American households averaged 17.4 percent in 2009, a historical low over the 1979 to 2009 period.

WEIRD, WASN'T THAT WHEN THE TP (BIRCHERS) WERE FORMED?


CBO: Fed tax rates hit historic low - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com


AND THIS WORKS TOO

Your taxes are really low, in one chart

 

[Mr. H.]

But many Republicans say they'd rather offset increases in transportation spending with cuts to other government programs rather than tax increases.

This is good.

Instead, Obama is pushing a plan to close tax loopholes and use the revenue to pay for increased transportation spending for the next four years.

This is bad.

This is not going to fly. No one is saying to increase spending. The 18 cents per gallon has been in place for 20 years. There has been NO INCREASE. Now the GOP and the Baggers are dead set against an increase.....basically because they can't see past the end of their noses.

So even the meager highway funding in place now is running out. You will see crumbling bridges, more potholes, and more long lines. The road projects you see going on now will end. But you RWers will enjoy it.

IT IS THE REPUBLICAN WAY!

You know....your platform has been and will always be, "Party over Country!"

James, fraud and waste in federal government is rampant. The Republican message is simply to stop manicuring bullshit, reign in spending, and divert those savings to infrastructure.

Regarding the gasoline tax... it costs me 66 cents per gallon of crude oil just to get it out of the ground. That's money that I spend each and every day. And the feds collect - scott-free - 18 cents/gallon on gasoline? What a fucking joke.

 

[Dad2three]

How about the government using the gasoline taxes that we already pay to maintain roads and bridges to actually maintain roads and bridges?

Do Roads Pay for Themselves?:
Setting the Record Straight on Transportation Funding

Highway advocates often claim that roads “pay for themselves,” with gasoline taxes and other charges to motorists covering – or nearly covering – the full cost of highway construction and maintenance.

They are wrong.

Highways do not – and, except for brief periods in our nation’s history – never have paid for themselves through the taxes that highway advocates label “user fees.”


Highways don’t pay for themselves.

Since 1947, the amount of money spent on highways, roads and streets has exceeded the amount raised through gasoline taxes and other so-called “user fees” by $600 billion (2005 dollars), representing a massive transfer of general government funds to highways.

Highways “pay for themselves” less today than ever. Currently, highway “user fees” pay only about half the cost of building and maintaining the nation’s network of highways, roads and streets.


Do Roads Pay for Themselves? | Frontier Group

they were never designed
to ike built the interstate for military runways and to ship troops coast to coast

Partly yes, but right wingers CLAIM taxes and fees MORE THAN pay for it. Weird right?


About 70 percent of the construction and maintenance costs of Interstate Highways in the United States have been paid through user fees, primarily the fuel taxes collected by the federal, state, and local governments.

 

[Dad2three]

But many Republicans say they'd rather offset increases in transportation spending with cuts to other government programs rather than tax increases.

This is good.

Instead, Obama is pushing a plan to close tax loopholes and use the revenue to pay for increased transportation spending for the next four years.

This is bad.

This is not going to fly. No one is saying to increase spending. The 18 cents per gallon has been in place for 20 years. There has been NO INCREASE. Now the GOP and the Baggers are dead set against an increase.....basically because they can't see past the end of their noses.

So even the meager highway funding in place now is running out. You will see crumbling bridges, more potholes, and more long lines. The road projects you see going on now will end. But you RWers will enjoy it.

IT IS THE REPUBLICAN WAY!

You know....your platform has been and will always be, "Party over Country!"

There has been lots of state increases, where does all the money go? State, local and federal taxes levied against fuel and now the US average fuel tax of 49.5 cents (cpg) per gallon for gas and 54.6 cents per gallon (cpg) for diesel.

So it is really not 18.4 cents a gallon, it is a lot more and we see it squandered, cut other programs and create the construction jobs and get rid of prevailing wage, then we can see real progress.

About 70 percent of the construction and maintenance costs of Interstate Highways in the United States have been paid through user fees, primarily the fuel taxes collected by the federal, state, and local governments.


he Highway Trust Fund, established by the Highway Revenue Act in 1956, prescribed a three-cent-per-gallon fuel tax, soon increased to 4.5 cents per gallon. In 1993 the tax was increased to 18.4 cents per gallon, where it remains as of 2012

When did the Federal Government begin collecting the gas tax? - Ask the Rambler - General Highway History - Highway History - Federal Highway Administration


Do Roads Pay for Themselves?:
Setting the Record Straight on Transportation Funding

Highway advocates often claim that roads “pay for themselves,” with gasoline taxes and other charges to motorists covering – or nearly covering – the full cost of highway construction and maintenance.

They are wrong.

Highways do not – and, except for brief periods in our nation’s history – never have paid for themselves through the taxes that highway advocates label “user fees.”

Do Roads Pay for Themselves? | Frontier Group




Drivers directly pay for just 50.7 percent of the cost of the American road system

A new report from the (ANTI) Tax Foundation shows 50.7 percent of America’s road spending comes from gas taxes, tolls, and other fees levied on drivers. The other 49.3 percent? Well, that comes from general tax dollars, just like education and health care.

UPDATED: Drivers Cover Just 51 Percent of U.S. Road Spending | Streetsblog USA

 

[Dad2three]

What happened is fuel consumption plummeted & repair cost increase. We have been subsidizing the highway system from the SS Trust Fund for too long now. It's time it paid it's own way.

AND the 18 cents a gallon has not increased in 20 years. That means that though the dot com boom, the inflation, and the years of milk and honey, the rate has stayed the same. It probably should be at least doubled to stay close to real construction costs. But now that the RW loons and the Baggers refuse to raise one cent of a tax rate, we are screwed.

In my community I can see a number of highway construction projects that are federally funded which will stop dead.

So shouldn't your highways be taken care of by your state instead of the feds? Because I don't personally give a fuck about your roads, they are your problem and the games the feds make you play to get the money is pathetic.

Raise your tax rate all you want. I don't feel the need to pay more for your problems. Raise your state taxes all you want. Leave the rest of us out of your problems.

Drivers directly pay for just 50.7 percent of the cost of the American road system

A new report from the (ANTI) Tax Foundation shows 50.7 percent of America’s road spending comes from gas taxes, tolls, and other fees levied on drivers. The other 49.3 percent? Well, that comes from general tax dollars, just like education and health care.

UPDATED: Drivers Cover Just 51 Percent of U.S. Road Spending | Streetsblog USA


Highways don’t pay for themselves.

Since 1947, the amount of money spent on highways, roads and streets has exceeded the amount raised through gasoline taxes and other so-called “user fees” by $600 billion (2005 dollars), representing a massive transfer of general government funds to highways.

Highways “pay for themselves” less today than ever. Currently, highway “user fees” pay only about half the cost of building and maintaining the nation’s network of highways, roads and streets.


Do Roads Pay for Themselves? | Frontier Group

 

[Big Black Dog]

With all of the State taxes and Federal taxes charged for a gallon of gas, there should be more than enough money to pay for our bridges and highways. They need to start using the money wisely and not piss it away on other projects and useless crap.

 

[Dad2three]

But many Republicans say they'd rather offset increases in transportation spending with cuts to other government programs rather than tax increases.

This is good.

Instead, Obama is pushing a plan to close tax loopholes and use the revenue to pay for increased transportation spending for the next four years.

This is bad.

This is not going to fly. No one is saying to increase spending. The 18 cents per gallon has been in place for 20 years. There has been NO INCREASE. Now the GOP and the Baggers are dead set against an increase.....basically because they can't see past the end of their noses.

So even the meager highway funding in place now is running out. You will see crumbling bridges, more potholes, and more long lines. The road projects you see going on now will end. But you RWers will enjoy it.

IT IS THE REPUBLICAN WAY!

You know....your platform has been and will always be, "Party over Country!"

James, fraud and waste in federal government is rampant. The Republican message is simply to stop manicuring bullshit, reign in spending, and divert those savings to infrastructure.

Regarding the gasoline tax... it costs me 66 cents per gallon of crude oil just to get it out of the ground. That's money that I spend each and every day. And the feds collect - scott-free - 18 cents/gallon on gasoline? What a fucking joke.

GOP wants that? lol


We already know what economic policies work best for our country. Clinton knew that we had to cut spending and increase revenues. We had revenues of 20.6% of GDP and a surplus in F/Y 2001 (as well as 3 previous surpluses) . Then something terrible happened, the Republicans gained complete control in 2001 and instead of sticking with what was working they decided that their ideology was more important. The debt has gone up $12 trillion since then.



"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending.



Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."[



A new report from the (ANTI) Tax Foundation shows 50.7 percent of America’s road spending comes from gas taxes, tolls, and other fees levied on drivers. The other 49.3 percent? Well, that comes from general tax dollars, just like education and health care.

UPDATED: Drivers Cover Just 51 Percent of U.S. Road Spending | Streetsblog USA


SCOTT FREE HUH?

 

[Dad2three]

With all of the State taxes and Federal taxes charged for a gallon of gas, there should be more than enough money to pay for our bridges and highways. They need to start using the money wisely and not piss it away on other projects and useless crap.

Drivers directly pay for just 50.7 percent of the cost of the American road system

There’s a persistent misconception in American culture that transit is a big drain on public coffers while roads conveniently and totally pay for themselves through the magic of gas taxes. And that used to be true — at least for interstate highways, a fraction of the total road network.



But that was many, many failed attempts to raise the gas tax ago. A new report from the (ANTI) Tax Foundation shows 50.7 percent of America’s road spending comes from gas taxes, tolls, and other fees levied on drivers. The other 49.3 percent? Well, that comes from general tax dollars, just like education and health care


UPDATED: Drivers Cover Just 51 Percent of U.S. Road Spending | Streetsblog USA

 

[Freewill]

States should be responsible for their own highways.

So you want all highways to become toll roads? Okay. Of course the price of all consumer goods will then increase as shipping costs are passed on to the consumer.

How does it happen that states being responsible for their roadways automatically means that all would be toll roads?

In PA there are two super highways that cross the state. One cost a person about 39 dollars if I remember correctly. The other is a federal interstate and the state asked if they could turn it into a toll road, the fed government said no.

So yes, any new freeway built by the state will become a toll road, in my opinion. If the interstates are turned over then the maintenance will have to be paid for somehow. So yes we would see more toll roads.

 

[Mr. H.]

This is not going to fly. No one is saying to increase spending. The 18 cents per gallon has been in place for 20 years. There has been NO INCREASE. Now the GOP and the Baggers are dead set against an increase.....basically because they can't see past the end of their noses.

So even the meager highway funding in place now is running out. You will see crumbling bridges, more potholes, and more long lines. The road projects you see going on now will end. But you RWers will enjoy it.

IT IS THE REPUBLICAN WAY!

You know....your platform has been and will always be, "Party over Country!"

James, fraud and waste in federal government is rampant. The Republican message is simply to stop manicuring bullshit, reign in spending, and divert those savings to infrastructure.

Regarding the gasoline tax... it costs me 66 cents per gallon of crude oil just to get it out of the ground. That's money that I spend each and every day. And the feds collect - scott-free - 18 cents/gallon on gasoline? What a fucking joke.

GOP wants that? lol


We already know what economic policies work best for our country. Clinton knew that we had to cut spending and increase revenues. We had revenues of 20.6% of GDP and a surplus in F/Y 2001 (as well as 3 previous surpluses) . Then something terrible happened, the Republicans gained complete control in 2001 and instead of sticking with what was working they decided that their ideology was more important. The debt has gone up $12 trillion since then.



"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives in order to limit government spending by cutting taxes in order to deprive the government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force the federal government to reduce spending.



Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."[



A new report from the (ANTI) Tax Foundation shows 50.7 percent of America’s road spending comes from gas taxes, tolls, and other fees levied on drivers. The other 49.3 percent? Well, that comes from general tax dollars, just like education and health care.

UPDATED: Drivers Cover Just 51 Percent of U.S. Road Spending | Streetsblog USA


SCOTT FREE HUH?

Clinton resided over $8/barrel crude oil prices. He sat with his thumb up his Liberal ass while tens of thousands of oil industry workers lost their jobs. Domestic oil production plummeted and imports climbed.

Clinton sat on his fucking ass while foreign companies dumped their product on our domestic shores at below production cost. Which, by the way, is against law.

Fuck you, and fuck Clinton.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

So you want all highways to become toll roads? Okay. Of course the price of all consumer goods will then increase as shipping costs are passed on to the consumer.

How does it happen that states being responsible for their roadways automatically means that all would be toll roads?

In PA there are two super highways that cross the state. One cost a person about 39 dollars if I remember correctly. The other is a federal interstate and the state asked if they could turn it into a toll road, the fed government said no.

So yes, any new freeway built by the state will become a toll road, in my opinion. If the interstates are turned over then the maintenance will have to be paid for somehow. So yes we would see more toll roads.

That is Pennsylvania. Toll roads are an east coats thing, for the most part.

Also, having driven about PA on both the toll roads and the rest, I believe it is safe to say that they have some of the worst highways in the northeast, if not the whole nation. So, as it is with every other government program, more money does not mean better a end product.