History teaches.....

[PoliticalChic]

....but not everyone learns it's lessons.


Si vis pacem, para bellum .... "If you want peace, prepare for war".

Such a simple understanding of both history and of human nature.



But....the dominant political philosophy understands neither history nor human nature.....it's adherents actually claim that disarming law-abiding citizens will reduce crime, and disarming our nation, to peace.



1. Venezuela...disarmed the citizens to insure a Socialist dictatorship.

"In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant
Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro is giving guns to upwards of 400,000 of his supporters in hopes of squashing opponents’ demands for free and fair elections."

Venezuela banned the sale of guns to private citizens in 2012 during the tenure of the late dictator Hugo Chávez.

On June 1, 2012, the BBC reported that private citizens with a license/permit to own firearms would lose their rights, their permits invalid for purchasing or keeping weapons they already owned. “Only the army, police and certain groups like security companies [would] be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer,” the BBC noted. At that time, “Hugo Chavez’s government [said] the ultimate aim [was] to disarm all civilians.”
In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant - Breitbart



2. There was a similar call from another socialist head of government:





Government already has an army.
Why would Obama demand even a civilian army?

It could only have been due to his realization that what he planned for America might not be popular with its people.




3. Are there adults who believe a government's demands that they be disarmed?

Absolutely.

They're called Liberals.

But....it goes beyond this ignorance.



4. And here is the lesson that history has taught:

Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war". The source of this adage remains unknown;[1] however, it is universally believed, rightly or wrongly, to be based on a quotation from Roman military writer Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus: Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.[2] The saying is one of many from or based on his work, Epitoma rei militaris, possibly written around the year 390 AD.
Si vis pacem, para bellum - Wikipedia


And true to this day....both for nations, and for individuals.

 

[PurpleOwl]

there's a difference between liberals and socialists

 

[pismoe]

i'm waiting to see what happens in Venezuela . Already the people are starving and HUGE protest marches and clashes are happening .

 

[BULLDOG]

....but not everyone learns it's lessons.


i vis pacem, para bellum .... "If you want peace, prepare for war".

Such a simple understanding of both history and of human nature.



But....the dominant political philosophy understands neither history nor human nature.....it's adherents actually claim that disarming law-abiding citizens will reduce crime, and disarming our nation, to peace.



1. Venezuela...disarmed the citizens to insure a Socialist dictatorship.

"In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant
Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro is giving guns to upwards of 400,000 of his supporters in hopes of squashing opponents’ demands for free and fair elections."

Venezuela banned the sale of guns to private citizens in 2012 during the tenure of the late dictator Hugo Chávez.

On June 1, 2012, the BBC reported that private citizens with a license/permit to own firearms would lose their rights, their permits invalid for purchasing or keeping weapons they already owned. “Only the army, police and certain groups like security companies [would] be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer,” the BBC noted. At that time, “Hugo Chavez’s government [said] the ultimate aim [was] to disarm all civilians.”
In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant - Breitbart



2. There was a similar call from another socialist head of government:





Government already has an army.
Why would Obama demand even a civilian army?

It could only have been due to his realization that what he planned for America might not be popular with its people.




3. Are there adults who believe a government's demands that they be disarmed?

Absolutely.

They're called Liberals.

But....it goes beyond this ignorance.



4. And here is the lesson that history has taught:

Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war". The source of this adage remains unknown;[1] however, it is universally believed, rightly or wrongly, to be based on a quotation from Roman military writer Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus: Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.[2] The saying is one of many from or based on his work, Epitoma rei militaris, possibly written around the year 390 AD.
Si vis pacem, para bellum - Wikipedia


And true to this day....both for nations, and for individuals.

What would you do without cut/n/paste?

 

[Cellblock2429]

there's a difference between liberals and socialists

/---- Like there is a difference between cat shyt and dog poop.

 

[pismoe]

huge march in Venezuela . --- In Venezuela, the 'Mother of all Marches' ---

 

[pismoe]

and this clip that you posted in your opening post really made my ears perk up when i first heard it years ago PoliticalChic . --- --- sounds like mrobamas intention was his own Private Army or Militia .

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

there's a difference between liberals and socialists

One starts with "L" and one starts with "S".

 

[PoliticalChic]

there's a difference between liberals and socialists

"there's a difference between liberals and socialists"
I see.....your suggestion that definitions are de rigueur!



Absolutely!
In this classroom, we begin by explaining terms.



a. Liberal and Progressive and Democrat are used interchangeably in general parlance...And a 2012 Gallup poll found that 53 percent of Democrats and 39 percent of Americans more generally had a positive reaction to the word socialism.
Democrats, Republicans Diverge on Capitalism, Federal Gov't

Liberals are admitted socialists.


b. Even Marx admitted that true communism could not come about without revolution. So the statement -- "A communist is a socialist with a gun" can be accepted as a truism.
So....Liberals, Progressives, Socialists = Communists.

c. Nazis, falsely called Rightwing, are National Socialists....hence, Leftwing.
So....So....Liberals, Progressives, Communists, Socialists = Nazis.

d. Since Fascists and Nazis were allies,and basically the same....

...Liberals, Progressives, Communists, Socialists, Democrats, Nazis.....and Fascists...peas in the same pod.




Now that we have an understanding of the terminology....can we continue in our condemnation?

 

[NYcarbineer]

....but not everyone learns it's lessons.


Si vis pacem, para bellum .... "If you want peace, prepare for war".

Such a simple understanding of both history and of human nature.



But....the dominant political philosophy understands neither history nor human nature.....it's adherents actually claim that disarming law-abiding citizens will reduce crime, and disarming our nation, to peace.



1. Venezuela...disarmed the citizens to insure a Socialist dictatorship.

"In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant
Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro is giving guns to upwards of 400,000 of his supporters in hopes of squashing opponents’ demands for free and fair elections."

Venezuela banned the sale of guns to private citizens in 2012 during the tenure of the late dictator Hugo Chávez.

On June 1, 2012, the BBC reported that private citizens with a license/permit to own firearms would lose their rights, their permits invalid for purchasing or keeping weapons they already owned. “Only the army, police and certain groups like security companies [would] be able to buy arms from the state-owned weapons manufacturer and importer,” the BBC noted. At that time, “Hugo Chavez’s government [said] the ultimate aim [was] to disarm all civilians.”
In Gun-Controlled Venezuela, Dictator Promises Gun to Each Socialist Militant - Breitbart



2. There was a similar call from another socialist head of government:





Government already has an army.
Why would Obama demand even a civilian army?

It could only have been due to his realization that what he planned for America might not be popular with its people.




3. Are there adults who believe a government's demands that they be disarmed?

Absolutely.

They're called Liberals.

But....it goes beyond this ignorance.



4. And here is the lesson that history has taught:

Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war". The source of this adage remains unknown;[1] however, it is universally believed, rightly or wrongly, to be based on a quotation from Roman military writer Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus: Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.[2] The saying is one of many from or based on his work, Epitoma rei militaris, possibly written around the year 390 AD.
Si vis pacem, para bellum - Wikipedia


And true to this day....both for nations, and for individuals.

So is the dopey OP for or against an armed citizenry?

Anyone sort out the above word salad?

 

[PoliticalChic]

i'm waiting to see what happens in Venezuela . Already the people are starving and HUGE protest marches and clashes are happening .

The handwriting is on the wall....
The fat boy starved 10% of his people to death....but he has a million man army.
The North Korean people have no weapons.

Collectivist regimes always slaughter their own people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, "If you wish for peace, prepare for war".


5. It is a mistake to see this axiom as applying only to the military, or to governments. it is a truth for all of our lives, to live by, and to teach our children. It means to do the difficult things, the things we'd rather not do, ....so, when the real test of will and character arise, we are prepared.
And the corollary is to fight against believing fairy tales from government, tales that if true would make life on earth Utopia.




It is 'war' with our enemies but also with our own nature:

"Men have an extraordinary ability to ignore danger—and an alarming willingness to follow the intellectuals of the day, no matter how misguided.

Studies done since the world wars have concluded there was little difference in the strength of the French and German armies, on paper. French tanks had the superiority in numbers, quality and firepower while German airplanes were the more advanced machines.

The overwhelming disparity in performance came from a difference, not in firepower, but in mind-set." How Dangerous Ideas Crumbled France in Six Weeks


There are principles and lessons that are eternal.
Pay attention!

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

...Liberals, Progressives, Communists, Socialists, Democrats, Nazis.....and Fascists...peas in the same pod.

Conservatives, rightwingers, fucktards, perverts, cretins, imbeciles, bigots, racists, psychopaths, sociopaths, assholes, dimwits, half wits, morons,

all peas in the same pod.

 

[dcbl]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

Bernie!

The proof that socialism is Marxism.

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Aaron Klein
2. Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line. 3.The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.
   
   a. The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
   Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
   
   and
   404 test

4. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

Bernie!

The proof that socialism is Marxism.

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Aaron Klein
2. Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line. 3.The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.
   
   a. The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
   Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
   
   and
   404 test

4. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.

who isn't communist to a paranoid nutjob like you? Is Trump communist?

 

[dcbl]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

Bernie!

The proof that socialism is Marxism.

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Aaron Klein
2. Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line. 3.The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.
   
   a. The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
   Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
   
   and
   404 test

4. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.

who isn't communist to a paranoid nutjob like you? Is Trump communist?

here's a little civics lesson that is easy for errybody to understand - don't never say I ain't never dun nuthin to hep ya out baw

 

[irosie91]

The LESSON OF HISTORY------the real "war-mongers" are those who level the
accusation "WAR MONGER" ------ask Patrick Henry (they are just working
for 'the other side' )

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

Bernie!

The proof that socialism is Marxism.

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Aaron Klein
2. Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line. 3.The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.
   
   a. The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
   Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
   
   and
   404 test

4. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.

who isn't communist to a paranoid nutjob like you? Is Trump communist?

What's that you say???

You're not convinced?

Wellllllll....as this an interactive exercise....try this little quiz that I made up just for dolts like you:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Unpossible

Socialism is the tits. All those pre20 year old reddit kids told me. And Bernie knows best....

Bernie!

The proof that socialism is Marxism.

1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Aaron Klein
2. Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line. 3.The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.
   
   a. The Socialist International boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
   Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
   
   and
   404 test

4. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.

who isn't communist to a paranoid nutjob like you? Is Trump communist?

What's that you say???

You're not convinced?

Wellllllll....as this an interactive exercise....try this little quiz that I made up just for dolts like you:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

did you write these yourself or are you copying them from stormfront?