Hmmm...Disney's lack of security....are they ready for the worst...?

[2aguy]

No he wasn't, you lying sack. He had multiple scrapes with the law...including arson. And he couldn't get a gun legally.

Except for the gun he bought legally. You lying sack.

Arson, domestic violence, theft, trespassing....who's lying?

He legally bought a gun. He did not commit arson. He was not convicted of trespassing. His 'theft' was stealing campaign signs from the road. He was never convicted of domestic violence.

So yes, it is YOU lying.

Moron...

Lafayette Theater Shooter s Pistol Purchase Was Not In Fact Legal - The Truth About Guns


In order to purchase the handgun, the person in question would have completed the ATF’s “Firearms Transaction Record” paperwork, affectionately known as an ATF Form 4473. Anyone who has ever bought a gun from a FFL license holder should recognize question 11 (F):

Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes a determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs) OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

As we already know, the attacker in this case was involuntarily committed to a mental institution after being judged a danger to himself and others in 2008. Legally, the person filling out the form would be required to tick the “YES” box — anything else would constitute a felony, as stated on the declaration that the buyer is required to sign. The problem in this case is that the attacker most likely lied, checked the “NO” box, and the subsequent NICS background check didn’t include that nugget of information.

And even if the ATF had discovered Houser’s lie, there’s almost no chance they would have done anything about it.

So this isn’t a story of broken gun laws, but one of a broken system. Just as in the case of the Charleston church shooting, the attacker in question purchased his firearm from a law-abiding gun dealer who dutifully followed the law to the best of their abilities. Where things broke down in both instances was that the NICS system apparently did not have the relevant information at hand, and as a result the individuals (who should have otherwise been barred from purchasing firearms under existing laws) walked out with a brand new handgun.

Oh so you're saying the gun buying process is too lax. Gotcha.

No...gun control works great if you want to stop law abiding citizens from getting guns.....but gun control laws work for shit for keeping law breakers from getting guns....as all the mass shootings show and all the criminal shootings in our inner cities show....in cities with strict gun control laws...

But gun control worked like a charm in that theater...not one law abiding citizen had a gun in that theater.....the killer did..... but not the good people.....

 

[2aguy]

God, you guys must live your lives in a state of constant fear.

You're thousands of times more likely to be murdered by a family member than be a victim of an act of "terror" in the US.

How much freedom are you guys willing to give up for your false sense of security?

Assumptions not in evidence

This thread is all the "evidence" I need - along with the other thread suggesting that movie theaters install metal detectors.

You do realize that the Colorado theater shooter, the one just sentenced to life in prison.......propped open the back door and walked in that way.......so......what would a metal detector have done?

But....gun control did work in the Colorado theater shooting....worked like a charm....not one law abiding citizen had their guns with them when that guy killed all those people.....so that was a win for gun control....right?

 

[2aguy]

Arson, domestic violence, theft, trespassing....who's lying?

He legally bought a gun. He did not commit arson. He was not convicted of trespassing. His 'theft' was stealing campaign signs from the road. He was never convicted of domestic violence.

So yes, it is YOU lying.

Moron...

Lafayette Theater Shooter s Pistol Purchase Was Not In Fact Legal - The Truth About Guns


In order to purchase the handgun, the person in question would have completed the ATF’s “Firearms Transaction Record” paperwork, affectionately known as an ATF Form 4473. Anyone who has ever bought a gun from a FFL license holder should recognize question 11 (F):

Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes a determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs) OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

As we already know, the attacker in this case was involuntarily committed to a mental institution after being judged a danger to himself and others in 2008. Legally, the person filling out the form would be required to tick the “YES” box — anything else would constitute a felony, as stated on the declaration that the buyer is required to sign. The problem in this case is that the attacker most likely lied, checked the “NO” box, and the subsequent NICS background check didn’t include that nugget of information.

And even if the ATF had discovered Houser’s lie, there’s almost no chance they would have done anything about it.

So this isn’t a story of broken gun laws, but one of a broken system. Just as in the case of the Charleston church shooting, the attacker in question purchased his firearm from a law-abiding gun dealer who dutifully followed the law to the best of their abilities. Where things broke down in both instances was that the NICS system apparently did not have the relevant information at hand, and as a result the individuals (who should have otherwise been barred from purchasing firearms under existing laws) walked out with a brand new handgun.

Oh so you're saying the gun buying process is too lax. Gotcha.

It proves that you can't create a new law or restriction that would have prevented this.
All you can do is make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to buy a gun

In the eyes of the gun store that sold Houser the gun, he was a law abiding citizen. God knows how many other "law abiding citizens" they've sold guns to.

Yes....they followed all the laws you gun grabbers wanted.....so gun control actually worked...all the law abiding people filled out that form truthfully, and I know that most denials are law abiding citizens who pop for some reason other than being a criminal...like they had a name that matched an actual felon.....

Gun control works exactly as you guys want it to....it keeps guns out of the hands of the very people who won't use guns to commit crimes.....

Of course it works like shit at stopping actual criminals from getting guns....but then, you need the criminals to have the guns...... so that when they use them to murder people....you can point and say...see.....we need even more gun laws........