Holocaust History

[Sixties Fan]

Never-Before-Seen Footage of US Soldiers Rescuing Jews From Nazi Death Train

Wow. There are no words.

www.israelunwired.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Moriah Films’ Courage+Valor: Stories that Inspirehighlights Carl Laemmle, the German-born founder of Universal Studios and a pioneer in the American film industry. Laemmle, born in Laupheim, Germany, emigrated to the US in 1884. After buying nickelodeons, then expanding into film distribution, he began producing movies in the early days of silent film, forming Independent Moving Pictures and eventually became President of Universal Studios. While a successful Hollywood leader, Laemmle still remained connected with his home town of Laupheim. When Hitler became Chancellor and the Nazis took over Germany, passing the infamous anti-Jewish Nuremberg Laws, Laemmle came to the rescue of hundreds of Germans. He not only sponsored several hundred Jews in their effort to emigrate to the US, paying their emigration and immigration fees, he also intervened on their behalf with the US State Department and Congress to facilitate their entry into the United States. In 1939, he tried to save the desperate Jews on the SS St. Louis, waiting for permission to sail into New York from Havana. American authorities refused entry to the ship and it was sent back to Europe where many of its passengers ultimately were killed in Nazi death camps. Sadly, Laemmle died not long after. In 2016, Laemmle's grand-niece, Rosemary Hilb, accepted the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Medal of Valor.

 

[Sixties Fan]

She survived the Holocaust in Lublin and became a scholar and symbol of Jewish resilience and resistance

Nechama Tec, the sociologist whose study of partisans in Belarus inspired the film "Defiance," has died at age 92.

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[Sixties Fan]

Makkabi Berlin, founded by Holocaust survivors, to be 1st Jewish team in German Cup

When Makkabi Berlin takes the field this weekend, the soccer club founded by Holocaust survivors will become the first Jewish team to play in the German Cup.

apnews.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Haaretz reports:

In the summer of 1942, Fritz Sendel, chief of staff of the German Order Police in occupied Poland, sent a message to the force’s commanding officers. Its subject: protecting the rights of animals that were transported on trains. “In the spirit of the Reich Animal Protection Act, I order, with immediate effect, that the officers of the stations (German and non-German) intervene immediately in cases of cruelty to animals, put a stop to it and report the offenders,” he wrote.

Sendel noted that “the majority of cases involving the cruelty to animals until now have been observed in regard to the horses used by the police forces.” On top of this, “the crowded conditions in the railway cattle cars, especially for animals being sent to slaughter, have also led to many credible complaints.”

The document in question was found in Poland’s Institute of National Remembrance by Eliyahu Klein, a PhD candidate at Tel Aviv University, whose dissertation, under the supervision of Prof. Havi Dreifuss and Dr. David Silberklang from the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem, focuses on the relationship between Jews and non-Jews under the German occupation in Poland and elsewhere.

Sendel added an appendix containing precise instructions, ordering the police officers to take action to prevent cruelty to animals and to report on any colleagues who mistreated them. The recommendations included reducing the number of animals per railcar, allowing them to have time to rest and monitoring their condition.

“The text mentions the need to oversee the conditions of the animals being transported,” Klein says. Officers were urged to ensure that the railcars were properly ventilated, to take note of the capacity of the cars and keep track of the number of animals loaded onto each one, and to make note of their physical condition, including details of injuries, respiratory problems and other symptoms. In addition, the German personnel were to see to it that the animals were not struck unnecessarily while being loaded onto the train, and asked to report on cases of sickness or death during the transport.

Klein mentions an exchange of correspondence in the summer of 1942 between two high-ranking Nazi figures. In it the deputy transport minister of Nazi Germany, Albert Ganzenmueller, updated Karl Wolff, chief of staff of Gestapo head Heinrich Himmler, about the transports to Treblinka from the Warsaw Ghetto. In response, Wolff wrote, as quoted in Kerstin von Lingen’s 2013 book “Allen Dulles, the OSS, and Nazi War Criminals”: “I note with particular pleasure after reading your communication that a train with 5,000 members of the chosen people has been running daily [to Treblinka] for 14 days and that we are accordingly in a position to continue with this population movement at an accelerated pace. ..."

Notice how Ganzenmueller sarcastically refers to Jews as the "chosen people" in a way not dissimilar to how we see the term used by today's anti-Zionists.
The seeming contradiction between how Nazis treated Jews and how they treated animals is not a new topic. I found a very interesting 1992 article that tried to explain this dichotomy in terms of Nazi ideology and its German antecedents.

It would be easy to dismiss the apparently benevolent Nazi attitude toward animals as “hypocrisy,” but this would be a facile way of evading an examination of the psychological and social dynamics of Nazi thinking and behavior. Rather than questioning the authenticity of the motivations behind Nazi animal protection—a question that is unanswerable—it may be more useful to ask how such thinking was possible and what significance it had.

One motivation was the German desire to distinguish themselves morally from Jews. The practice of Jewish ritual slaughter was attacked in the 19th century by German animal rights activists and banning kosher slaughter was one of the first acts of the Nazi government. Propaganda films that attempted to show how cruel Jews were to animals were widely distributed. Moreover, Nazis framed animal experimentation as a "Jewish" practice which should be curtailed (although laws to that effect had many loopholes.)

More interestingly, the paper argues that while there was no consistent Nazi ideology, to a large extent Nazis regarded all humans as animals, with Aryans as the highest form of animal that had to be protected from intermixing with lower forms such as Jews (untermenschen.) It quotes one SS document:

The subhuman—that creation of nature, which biologically is seemingly quite identical with the human, with hands, feet, and a kind of brain, with eyes and a mouth—is nevertheless a totally different and horrible creature, is merely an attempt at being man—but mentally and emotionally on a far lower level than any animal. In the inner life of that person there is a cruel chaos of wild uninhibited passions: a nameless urge to destroy, the most primitive lust, undisguised baseness… But the subhuman lived, too… He associated with his own kind. The beast called the beast… And this underworld of subhumans found its leader: the eternal Jew!

In the hierarchy of the animal kingdom, the Jews occupied the lowest possible position:

When groups of people, most commonly Jews, were likened to specific animal species, it was usually “lower” animals or life forms, including rodents, reptiles, insects, or germs. Hitler (1938), for instance, called the Jews a “pack of rats,” and Himmler, in order to help soldiers cope with having just shot one hundred Jews, told them “bedbugs and rats have a life purpose…but this has never meant that man could not defend himself against vermin” (Hilberg 1961, 219). The propaganda film Triumph of the Will superimposed images of rats over presumed “degenerate people” such as the Jews, and the 1940 film The Eternal Jew portrayed Jews as lower than vermin, somewhat akin to the rat—filthy, corrupting, disease carrying, ugly, and group oriented (Herzstein 1978, 309). ... Jews were also likened to bacteria and “plagues” of insects (Herzstein 1978, 354).

But the Germans even regarded Aryans, in a sense, as animals. Nazis proposed ways to breed superhumans the same way that animals are bred, reducing even Aryan human beings to little more than breeding stock:

Much of Himmler’s knowledge about animal breeding practices was directly applied to plans for human breeding to further Aryan traits (Bookbinder 1989). One of Himmler’s obsessions was the breeding of many more superior Nordic offspring (Shirer 1960, 984). Financial awards were made for giving birth if the child was of biological and racial value, and potential mothers of good Aryan stock who did not give birth were branded as “unwholesome, traitors and criminals” (Deuel 1942, 164–65). Encouraging the propagation of good German blood was seen as so important that several Nazi leaders advocated free love in special recreation camps for girls with pure Aryan qualities. In one of Himmler’s schemes, he argued that if 100 such camps were established for 1000 girls, 10,000 “perfect” children would be born each year (Deuel 1942, 165). Despite the criticism of the Reich Minister of the Interior, who opposed the “idea of breeding Nordics” when it reached the point of “making a rabbit-breeding farm out of Germany” (Deuel 1942, 203), plans were developed for a series of state-run brothels, where young women certified as genetically sound would be impregnated by Nazi men. The intent was to breed Aryans as if they were pedigreed dogs (Glaser 1978).

This viewpoint of all living beings as on the same continuum where the higher animals must be protected from the lower animals is, on its own terms, a coherent moral philosophy that was twisted into a monstrous reality.

It is all too simple to relegate Nazis to cartoonish villains as being evil for evil's sake. But the frightening part is that they justified their evil in the language of ethics. Their position towards animal rights were the most advanced in the world at the time and (unconsciously) influences animal rights activists' philosophy today. Similarly, Nazi Germany was in the forefront of medical ethics, using the same kind of logic described here to justify persecuting Jews as an ethical imperative to protect Aryans.

We see this same perverted twisting of ethics in the 21st century.

Today, there is an unmistakable singling out of Jews as the world's worst violators of ethics, just as the Nazis positioned Jews as morally reprehensible in their treatment of animals.

And today we see "human rights defenders" justifying murdering Jews as an ethical imperative of "resistance.".

Today's supposed "human rights" leaders believe that they have the moral high ground and cannot even see their own bigotry is being justified by their bizarre, twisted sense of ethics. Like the Nazis, they are writing long, seemingly well-researched papers to justify their foregone conclusions in the name of social justice.

Their justifications for attempting to destroy Israel are an eerie echo of the Nazis' ethical justifications for destroying the Jewish people.

Nazis insisted on humane cattle cars - for cattle, not Jews. The logic behind it is relevant for "human rights defenders" today.

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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[Sixties Fan]

Holocaust-memory program centers on World War II-era musical instruments - JNS.org

“These violins are a different type of survivor,” said musicologist James Grymes, who is part of the Violins of Hope project.

www.jns.org

 

[Sixties Fan]

Jewish Canadian journalist Peter C. Newman, who fled Nazis as a boy, dies at 94

Reporter and author produced groundbreaking coverage of life in Canada, inspired by his experience as a refugee

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Mindful]

A Jewish woman conceals her face from the camera as she sits on a park bench marked "Only for Jews". This photograph was taken in Austria days after the Nazi annexation in March 1938.

 

[Paul White]

I have been seeing a lot of article and threads on the Holocaust but have not found one which deals with the History, before, during and after. Therefore I am starting one now.

Any Holocaust denier is welcome to post and discuss here. Discuss, not attack, or troll. Proof that it did not happen, just post it.


It is important to tell History as it happened. Lets go at it.

AI and the holocaust.
“Were the murdered Jews in Auschwitz cremated?”
“Yes, the bodies of those murdered in Auschwitz were cremated.”
“How many crematorium ovens did Auschwitz have?”
“Auschwitz had a total of four crematorium ovens.”
“How long does a crematorium oven take to cremate one body?”
“A crematorium oven typically takes between two and three hours to cremate one body.”
“Is it possible to cremate 1.1 million bodies, using only four crematorium ovens in four years.”
“No.”
“How many years would it take?”
“It would take more than 78 years to cremate 1.1 million bodies using only four crematorium ovens.” AI Chatbot "Antisemitic" and "Holocaust Denier"

Another Shoah . . . ? A.I. Chatbot "Nazi" *Literally* Commits Another Holocaust With "Anti-Semitic" Facts and Algorithms | CODOH

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[Sixties Fan]

AI and the holocaust.
“Were the murdered Jews in Auschwitz cremated?”
“Yes, the bodies of those murdered in Auschwitz were cremated.”
“How many crematorium ovens did Auschwitz have?”
“Auschwitz had a total of four crematorium ovens.”
“How long does a crematorium oven take to cremate one body?”
“A crematorium oven typically takes between two and three hours to cremate one body.”
“Is it possible to cremate 1.1 million bodies, using only four crematorium ovens in four years.”
“No.”
“How many years would it take?”
“It would take more than 78 years to cremate 1.1 million bodies using only four crematorium ovens.” AI Chatbot "Antisemitic" and "Holocaust Denier"

Another Shoah . . . ? A.I. Chatbot "Nazi" *Literally* Commits Another Holocaust With "Anti-Semitic" Facts and Algorithms | CODOH

codoh.com

Go right ahead and say that Judaism and Jews do not exist.

Tell yourself that those in Israel are not Jewish.

Tell yourself that everything you hear about "Jews" is a lie.


That is your problem.

Artificial Intelligence is intelligence for better or worse.
You are BEYOND far from being anything which even comes to look like a piece of dust, as an amount, when compared to intelligence.


Learned hatred is not intelligence.

Repeating lies in order to delegitimize and harm others you do not know because you were told to do so, is not intelligence.

Coming to a Holocaust thread as a rookie with 19 posts, and giving yourself the air of knowledge, when all you are doing is mirroring 2000 years of ignorance learned by Christians and Muslims is NOT intelligence.


May your future posts be more Caring and Thoughtful.

 

[Sixties Fan]

This undated photo shows Polish farmer Jozef Ulma with his wife Wiktoria. The Ulmas were killed with their seven children by the Nazis in 1944 for having sheltered Jews during World War II. (Mateusz Szpytma, Deputy head of Poland's IPN history institute via AP)

WARSAW, Poland — In an unprecedented move, the Vatican on Sunday beatified a Polish family of nine — a married couple and their small children — who were executed by the Nazis during World War II for sheltering Jews.

During a ceremonious Mass, papal envoy Cardinal Marcello Semeraro read out the Latin formula of the beatification of the Ulma family signed last month by Pope Francis.

A contemporary painting representing Jozef and Wiktoria Ulma with their children was uncovered near the altar. It is the first time that an entire family has been beatified.


(full article online)

In first, Vatican beatifies Polish family of 9 executed by Nazis for sheltering Jews

Mass held in honor of the Ulmas, who were killed along with 8 Jews they were hiding; experts have warned Warsaw could use recognition to downplay Poles' role in Holocaust

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Researchers have discovered new documentation that substantiates reports that Catholic convents and monasteries in Rome sheltered Jews during World War II, providing names of at least 3,200 Jews whose identities have been corroborated by the city’s Jewish community, officials said Thursday.

Researchers from the Vatican’s Pontifical Biblical Institute, the Yad Vashem Holocaust research institute and Rome’s Jewish community released the findings at an academic workshop Thursday held at the Museum of the Shoah, part of Rome’s main synagogue.

The documentation doesn’t appear to shed any new light on the role of Pope Pius XII during the Nazi occupation of Rome. Historians have long debated Pius’ legacy, with supporters insisting he used quiet diplomacy to save Jewish lives and critics saying he remained silent as the Holocaust raged across Europe, and even as Roman Jews were rounded up and deported from the Vatican’s backyard in 1943.

(full article online)

New research shows Catholic convents sheltered 3,200 Jews in Rome during WWII

Report from Yad Vashem, the Vatican, Italian Jewish community says at least that number were protected by church; sheds no new light on Pope Pius XII's role during Nazi occupation

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Paul White]

Go right ahead and say that Judaism and Jews do not exist.

Tell yourself that those in Israel are not Jewish.

Tell yourself that everything you hear about "Jews" is a lie.


That is your problem.

Artificial Intelligence is intelligence for better or worse.
You are BEYOND far from being anything which even comes to look like a piece of dust, as an amount, when compared to intelligence.


Learned hatred is not intelligence.

Repeating lies in order to delegitimize and harm others you do not know because you were told to do so, is not intelligence.

Coming to a Holocaust thread as a rookie with 19 posts, and giving yourself the air of knowledge, when all you are doing is mirroring 2000 years of ignorance learned by Christians and Muslims is NOT intelligence.


May your future posts be more Caring and Thoughtful.

Lol, thats gas.
So what did the AI get wrong?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Researchers have discovered new documentation that substantiates reports that Catholic convents and monasteries in Rome sheltered Jews during World War II, providing names of at least 3,200 Jews whose identities have been corroborated by the city’s Jewish community, officials said Thursday.

Researchers from the Vatican’s Pontifical Biblical Institute, the Yad Vashem Holocaust research institute and Rome’s Jewish community released the findings at an academic workshop Thursday held at the Museum of the Shoah, part of Rome’s main synagogue.

The documentation doesn’t appear to shed any new light on the role of Pope Pius XII during the Nazi occupation of Rome. Historians have long debated Pius’ legacy, with supporters insisting he used quiet diplomacy to save Jewish lives and critics saying he remained silent as the Holocaust raged across Europe, and even as Roman Jews were rounded up and deported from the Vatican’s backyard in 1943.

Rather, the new documentation provides names and addresses of Romans who were sheltered in Catholic institutions during the war, which had only previously been reported in vague terms and numbers by Italy’s preeminent historian of the period, Renzo de Felice, in a 1961 book, according to a joint statement from the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Yad Vashem and Rome’s Jewish community.

The documentation was discovered in the archives of the Biblical Institute, which is affiliated with the Jesuit-run Pontifical Gregorian University. It lists more than 4,300 people who were sheltered in the properties of 100 women’s and 55 men’s Catholic religious orders. Of those, 3,600 are identified by name, and research in the archives of Rome’s Jewish community “indicates that 3,200 certainly were Jews,” the statement said.

(full article online)

In first, Vatican beatifies Polish family of 9 executed by Nazis for sheltering Jews

Mass held in honor of the Ulmas, who were killed along with 8 Jews they were hiding; experts have warned Warsaw could use recognition to downplay Poles' role in Holocaust

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Lol, thats gas.
So what did the AI get wrong?

You got everything wrong. Because you want to.

You want some AI to be more intelligent than you and agree with your abhorrent denial training that fewer Jews died during the Holocaust than actually did.

Deny all you like. The proof is there, in the Nazi documents the Germans kept themselves to look at for the next 1000 years, and be proud of how many Jews they killed and how.

 

[Grau]

Go right ahead and say that Judaism and Jews do not exist.

Tell yourself that those in Israel are not Jewish.

Tell yourself that everything you hear about "Jews" is a lie.


That is your problem.

Artificial Intelligence is intelligence for better or worse.
You are BEYOND far from being anything which even comes to look like a piece of dust, as an amount, when compared to intelligence.


Learned hatred is not intelligence.

Repeating lies in order to delegitimize and harm others you do not know because you were told to do so, is not intelligence.

Coming to a Holocaust thread as a rookie with 19 posts, and giving yourself the air of knowledge, when all you are doing is mirroring 2000 years of ignorance learned by Christians and Muslims is NOT intelligence.


May your future posts be more Caring and Thoughtful.

What are you talking about?

You're distorting what Mr. White wrote to an absurd and melodramatic degree.

There was absolutely nothing hateful, slanderous or anti Semitic in his informative, straightforward and factual Post.

Please try to be honest when representing the views of others.

Thanks,

 

[Sixties Fan]

What are you talking about?

You're distorting what Mr. White wrote to an absurd and melodramatic degree.

There was absolutely nothing hateful, slanderous or anti Semitic in his informative, straightforward and factual Post.

Please try to be honest when representing the views of others.

Thanks,

Translate what he said to me.

Is he denying the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust? Is he actually saying that over 6 Million Jews died in the Holocaust by the Nazis?

Have you visited the site? What kind of a site is it?

 

[Grau]

Translate what he said to me.

Is he denying the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust? Is he actually saying that over 6 Million Jews died in the Holocaust by the Nazis?

Have you visited the site? What kind of a site is it?

I'd be happy to "translate" as well as well as provide some of my own thoughts on the topic.

My only concern is that you seem especially angry and agitated at any variation from the standard Holocaust narrative.

Do you think that you can discuss the topic calmly, objectively and without rancor?

Thanks,

 

[BothWings]

What different does it make if they were Jews? Murder is murder.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I'd be happy to "translate" as well as well as provide some of my own thoughts on the topic.

My only concern is that you seem especially angry and agitated at any variation from the standard Holocaust narrative.

Do you think that you can discuss the topic calmly, objectively and without rancor?

Thanks,

Not with a fool who thinks he, or she, can condescend others instead of owning up that they are as much Holocaust deniers, aka LIARS, as the previous poster.

Can I allow you to LIE about how many Jews were murdered in all the various ways they were in a period of five years?

Go play your, "You are angry and cannot be talked to" game with other Nazi sympathizers, like the other poster. There are plenty of Nazis on the boards, and I am sure you know who they are.