Holy crap - this has to stop!

[Coyote]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Is it correct now?

 

[Coyote]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Sure - give me a sec to figure it out

Thanks.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

Thank you

Bring chocolate and you've won my heart.

 

[tycho1572]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Is it correct now?

You're awesome!

Thanks.

 

[Coyote]

Libs acting like there is still a contest going on with an undetermined outcome
Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote to the stunned glee of some and the stunned dismay of some
Apparently a goodly portion never experienced the maturation process of losing a contest. Playing softball just for fun with no rules and no score and quit when you get thirsty is no good
There are beginnings and ends to contests and outcomes with a final score
Hillary got more hits but Trump scored more runs-again a competition thing perhaps foreign to some
So they libs feel as though they could not have lost and thus the contest is still ongoing(Russians,Comey , mueller, investigations, hearings, impeachment)
Trump has done a poor job of at least trying to jump on this with both feet. He talked tough like new Sherrif in town so start acting like one

Clinton lost and Trump won.
Romney lost and Obama won.
McCain lost and Obama won.
Kerry lost and Bush won.
Gore lost and Bush won.

and so on.

2020 someone else will win and someone else will lose.

 

[WEATHER53]

While people might be divided by political opinions/issues, we share common ground on many things that really matter.

I like focusing on that common ground. It makes for a better life.

I'm afraid common ground is rare.

On the right, the Tea Party types are trying to control the party. Tea Partiers are Constitutionalists. The other side is the establishment. Like Democrats, they believe in big government too, just their kind of big government.

On the left, an admitted socialist almost won the nomination. The American Communist party not only backed Sanders, but said if he lost, would gladly back up Hilary as they did DumBama both his terms.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. We are becoming a more and more divided country with every election.

Common ground isn't rare. It's just forgotten by some in times of heated debates.

People often choose emotions over common sense. I'd win a prize if I could explain why that happens.

We all have things we're passionate about - I certainly do...and common sense doesn't always enter in to it. But it doesn't hurt to listen to what the other person has to say. I think one of the most dangerous things we as a people are facing is the diminishment of diverse voices. We choose - or - it's chosen for us through some algorythum - what voices we "like" to hear or that this algorythum thinks we'd "like". What ends up happening is we create a self-reinforcing cycle where are opinions are never challenged but instead legitimized in an echo chamber that excludes or demonizes the "other". So instead of "the other" being a person, he becomes an idea or a stereotype and we prejudge what he thinks, stands for and even says. We don't hear him. I like USMB because all voices have a place here.

People are often quick to dismiss the importance of demonstrating a level decorum that holds us together as a civilized society.

Well said and when you move to "kill the sob" you release a virulence into society that has not been witnessed before in America

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How can he do a damn thing with liberal activists judges stopping him? The law is clear (and passed by Congress) that a President has the sole power to stop any group of people he feels is a threat to the US from coming here. The activist courts ruled that he can't exercise that law. Yes, it will be overturned by the Supreme Court, but it goes to show the anti-Americanism of leftists if given power.

No he doesn't have that right. Your FF made three branches of govt for a reason. They are implementing their powers. If not, then their decision would be irrelevant.

As an aside, the thing I find funny out of all of this is that most Yanks - especially those that lean right - declare they are the freest country in the world, yet give one man almost dictatorial powers. Free my arse...

Correct, we do have three branches of government. In this case, the judicial branch overtook the legislative branch.

The court is not supposed to rule based on what they like or dislike. The courts job is to rule if something is legal and constitutional or not.

Want to read the law yourself? Here is what it says:

Section 212(f), states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

So yes, by our law, he does have that right. Now unless you can show me where it states he needs judicial approval, then we can agree the courts ruling is judicial activism if not judicial legislation which is against our US Constitution.

 

[LiberalSnowflake]

And a perfect example of what I was talking about...

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

If you think hate doesn't exist on both sides, you've been blinded by it.

Hate exists on both sides, sure. But one side acts out on it.

All sides act on it, because humans are inherently violent animals.

I keep asking for a list of the republican supporters shooting democrat congresspeople. Or of them rioting threatening or assaulting anyone. We have emails that PROVE Hillary Clinton and party conspired to cause just that riots and assaults at Trump tallies. And they happened.

Like I said earlier, attempted assassinations are a dime a dozen. Obama has a whole wiki page full. As for assaults/violence, I don't like naming individuals, as I think it glorifies them. But there are a ton of incidents of right-wing violence. The Giffords incident, the terrible Charlston incident, the knifing of those two women on the subway, that attack on an abortion clinic a few years back, etc. And that's just off the top of my head.

There are crazies on both sides who think their interpretation of what is right justifies whatever means they decide to use. But, despite our hyper-polarization, most people on both sides are reasonable people who just want a pleasant life for themselves and those close to them.

 

[WEATHER53]

Libs acting like there is still a contest going on with an undetermined outcome
Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote to the stunned glee of some and the stunned dismay of some
Apparently a goodly portion never experienced the maturation process of losing a contest. Playing softball just for fun with no rules and no score and quit when you get thirsty is no good
There are beginnings and ends to contests and outcomes with a final score
Hillary got more hits but Trump scored more runs-again a competition thing perhaps foreign to some
So they libs feel as though they could not have lost and thus the contest is still ongoing(Russians,Comey , mueller, investigations, hearings, impeachment)
Trump has done a poor job of at least trying to jump on this with both feet. He talked tough like new Sherrif in town so start acting like one

Clinton lost and Trump won.
Romney lost and Obama won.
McCain lost and Obama won.
Kerry lost and Bush won.
Gore lost and Bush won.

and so on.

2020 someone else will win and someone else will lose.

This is quite observant and thank you

 

[Pogo]

If the partisan mouthbreathers can take a mouthbreath for a moment ----

The game went on tonight as scheduled. The Democrats won, and immediately, on the field, announced that they would be sending the trophy to Steve Scalise's office. The attendance at the game was 25 thousand, an all-time record and more than twice the usual attendance, and it raised a million bucks for local charities. The injured Capitol police officer threw out the ceremonial first pitch, coming out on crutches to a standing ovation.

Meanwhile Scalise after a second operation is still critical but improving in hospital.

How lame is it when Congress can do it, and USMB can't?


OK, God Bless America is over, you may now return to your Composition Fallacies, in the process stepping on the backs of gun violence victims so you can score your "points" because that's what's important.

Just try to keep in mind --
"United we stand, divided we fall".

 

[task0778]

While people might be divided by political opinions/issues, we share common ground on many things that really matter.

I like focusing on that common ground. It makes for a better life.

I'm afraid common ground is rare.

On the right, the Tea Party types are trying to control the party. Tea Partiers are Constitutionalists. The other side is the establishment. Like Democrats, they believe in big government too, just their kind of big government.

On the left, an admitted socialist almost won the nomination. The American Communist party not only backed Sanders, but said if he lost, would gladly back up Hilary as they did DumBama both his terms.

So where is the middle-ground between constitutionalism and Communism? There is none. We are becoming a more and more divided country with every election.

Common ground isn't rare. It's just forgotten by some in times of heated debates.

People often choose emotions over common sense. I'd win a prize if I could explain why that happens.

On one side, we have people that believe they can legislate mortality. On the other, we have people that believe they can legislate morality. The truth is neither can be legislated.

There is no common ground between two groups of people: one that believes government should run our lives, and the other that wants as much government out of our life as possible. There is no middle ground there.

There is no middle ground between two groups of people: one that believes it takes a village, and the other that believes it takes personal responsibility.

There is no middle ground between two groups of people: one that believes we should reward irresponsibility, and the other that believes we should reward success.

If there is middle ground, I have yet to find it.

I think the people on the far end of both sides have too much influence on their parties. In many cases it's hard for moderate pols running in the primaries to get past the more extreme people that aren't willing to compromise at all. There may not be that many of them relative to the whole but they sure as hell make a lot of noise that is out of proportion to their numbers. What we need are stalwart members from both parties to band together and push through legislation that benefits most Americans rather than the special interest groups, at least to the extent possible. The problem is the leadership of both parties don't want to lose their power and control an so we end up playing political games instead of doing the people's business to the best of their ability. And the voters need to reward that courage to do what's right and show up at the polls to keep those people in office.

 

[ptbw forever]

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

If you think hate doesn't exist on both sides, you've been blinded by it.

Hate exists on both sides, sure. But one side acts out on it.

All sides act on it, because humans are inherently violent animals.

I keep asking for a list of the republican supporters shooting democrat congresspeople. Or of them rioting threatening or assaulting anyone. We have emails that PROVE Hillary Clinton and party conspired to cause just that riots and assaults at Trump tallies. And they happened.

Like I said earlier, attempted assassinations are a dime a dozen. Obama has a whole wiki page full. As for assaults/violence, I don't like naming individuals, as I think it glorifies them. But there are a ton of incidents of right-wing violence. The Giffords incident, the terrible Charlston incident, the knifing of those two women on the subway, that attack on an abortion clinic a few years back, etc. And that's just off the top of my head.

There are crazies on both sides who think their interpretation of what is right justifies whatever means they decide to use. But, despite our hyper-polarization, most people on both sides are reasonable people who just want a pleasant life for themselves and those close to them.

The Giffords incident was done by an apolitical madman.

Dylann Roof voted for Obama.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The Giffords incident,

Sorry. No points for that. He was another Left-Wing nut. You need to look into the others too.

Libs own violence in achieving political goals

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Libs acting like there is still a contest going on with an undetermined outcome
Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote to the stunned glee of some and the stunned dismay of some
Apparently a goodly portion never experienced the maturation process of losing a contest. Playing softball just for fun with no rules and no score and quit when you get thirsty is no good
There are beginnings and ends to contests and outcomes with a final score
Hillary got more hits but Trump scored more runs-again a competition thing perhaps foreign to some
So they libs feel as though they could not have lost and thus the contest is still ongoing(Russians,Comey , mueller, investigations, hearings, impeachment)
Trump has done a poor job of at least trying to jump on this with both feet. He talked tough like new Sherrif in town so start acting like one

Clinton lost and Trump won.
Romney lost and Obama won.
McCain lost and Obama won.
Kerry lost and Bush won.
Gore lost and Bush won.

and so on.

2020 someone else will win and someone else will lose.

And when that happens, we should all respect the vote of the people instead of fighting the vote of the people.

 

[Coyote]

Libs acting like there is still a contest going on with an undetermined outcome
Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote to the stunned glee of some and the stunned dismay of some
Apparently a goodly portion never experienced the maturation process of losing a contest. Playing softball just for fun with no rules and no score and quit when you get thirsty is no good
There are beginnings and ends to contests and outcomes with a final score
Hillary got more hits but Trump scored more runs-again a competition thing perhaps foreign to some
So they libs feel as though they could not have lost and thus the contest is still ongoing(Russians,Comey , mueller, investigations, hearings, impeachment)
Trump has done a poor job of at least trying to jump on this with both feet. He talked tough like new Sherrif in town so start acting like one

Clinton lost and Trump won.
Romney lost and Obama won.
McCain lost and Obama won.
Kerry lost and Bush won.
Gore lost and Bush won.

and so on.

2020 someone else will win and someone else will lose.

And when that happens, we should all respect the vote of the people instead of fighting the vote of the people.

...and did you? ....did the right?

Respect the vote of the people in regards to recognizing the legitimacy of the president - yes, absolutely!

But roll over and accept the agenda? No. Our system of government has gifted us with many (non-violent) tools to make sure our voices are heard and we have every right to use them if we disagree with the agenda or if we want to find a middle ground. That's democracy in action vs majority rule

 

[Coyote]

Libs acting like there is still a contest going on with an undetermined outcome
Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote to the stunned glee of some and the stunned dismay of some
Apparently a goodly portion never experienced the maturation process of losing a contest. Playing softball just for fun with no rules and no score and quit when you get thirsty is no good
There are beginnings and ends to contests and outcomes with a final score
Hillary got more hits but Trump scored more runs-again a competition thing perhaps foreign to some
So they libs feel as though they could not have lost and thus the contest is still ongoing(Russians,Comey , mueller, investigations, hearings, impeachment)
Trump has done a poor job of at least trying to jump on this with both feet. He talked tough like new Sherrif in town so start acting like one

Clinton lost and Trump won.
Romney lost and Obama won.
McCain lost and Obama won.
Kerry lost and Bush won.
Gore lost and Bush won.

and so on.

2020 someone else will win and someone else will lose.

And when that happens, we should all respect the vote of the people instead of fighting the vote of the people.

...and did you? ....did the right?

Respect the vote of the people in regards to recognizing the legitimacy of the president - yes, absolutely!

But roll over and accept the agenda? No. Our system of government has gifted us with many (non-violent) tools to make sure our voices are heard and we have every right to use them if we disagree with the agenda or if we want to find a middle ground. That's democracy in action vs majority rule

 

[tycho1572]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Sure - give me a sec to figure it out

Thanks.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

Thank you

Bring chocolate and you've won my heart.

Your heart deserves more than chocolate.

 

[jasonnfree]

How can he do a damn thing with liberal activists judges stopping him? The law is clear (and passed by Congress) that a President has the sole power to stop any group of people he feels is a threat to the US from coming here. The activist courts ruled that he can't exercise that law. Yes, it will be overturned by the Supreme Court, but it goes to show the anti-Americanism of leftists if given power.

No he doesn't have that right. Your FF made three branches of govt for a reason. They are implementing their powers. If not, then their decision would be irrelevant.

As an aside, the thing I find funny out of all of this is that most Yanks - especially those that lean right - declare they are the freest country in the world, yet give one man almost dictatorial powers. Free my arse...

Correct, we do have three branches of government. In this case, the judicial branch overtook the legislative branch.

The court is not supposed to rule based on what they like or dislike. The courts job is to rule if something is legal and constitutional or not.

Want to read the law yourself? Here is what it says:

Section 212(f), states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

So yes, by our law, he does have that right. Now unless you can show me where it states he needs judicial approval, then we can agree the courts ruling is judicial activism if not judicial legislation which is against our US Constitution.

section 212(f) couldn't be more clear. It's up to the president. But then, when Trump won the election, it was clear that he was to be the president, not hillary. The sore losers couldn't accept that either. Looks like some of them are willing to bring down the country over this, too.

 

[Coyote]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Sure - give me a sec to figure it out

Thanks.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

Thank you

Bring chocolate and you've won my heart.

Your heart deserves more than chocolate.

But chocolate will do in a pinch. It's a serious addiction alas....

 

[Coyote]

Would you mind fixing that for me, Coyote?

Sure - give me a sec to figure it out

Thanks.

Have I told you lately how much I love you?

Thank you

Bring chocolate and you've won my heart.

Your heart deserves more than chocolate.

But chocolate will do in a pinch. It's a serious addiction alas....

 

[Pogo]

If you think hate doesn't exist on both sides, you've been blinded by it.

Hate exists on both sides, sure. But one side acts out on it.

All sides act on it, because humans are inherently violent animals.

I keep asking for a list of the republican supporters shooting democrat congresspeople. Or of them rioting threatening or assaulting anyone. We have emails that PROVE Hillary Clinton and party conspired to cause just that riots and assaults at Trump tallies. And they happened.

Like I said earlier, attempted assassinations are a dime a dozen. Obama has a whole wiki page full. As for assaults/violence, I don't like naming individuals, as I think it glorifies them. But there are a ton of incidents of right-wing violence. The Giffords incident, the terrible Charlston incident, the knifing of those two women on the subway, that attack on an abortion clinic a few years back, etc. And that's just off the top of my head.

There are crazies on both sides who think their interpretation of what is right justifies whatever means they decide to use. But, despite our hyper-polarization, most people on both sides are reasonable people who just want a pleasant life for themselves and those close to them.

The Giffords incident was done by an apolitical madman.

Dylann Roof voted for Obama.

What sort of Planet Pathetic do you live on where you trawl around the internets looking to find out "who people voted for" just so you can ooze in here with yet another Composition Fallacy, none of which have ever worked as a valid argument??

I mean, break open the piggy bank, waddle down to the Life store and fucking BUY one already.
Sleepin' Jesus.