Homeschooling surges as parents realize how worthless public schools are

[Sunsettommy]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Wow!

You can not admit there is spectacular failure in the Baltimore school system taught by Union Teachers at all.

Calls to Shut Down City School Where 0.13 GPA Ranks Near Top Half of Class

Now the problem isn't fully known until there is an investigation.

The Teachers may only be a part of the problem, it can be bad students, poor school leadership, lack of funding and so on.

 

[rightwinger]

You can not admit there is spectacular failure in the Baltimore school system taught by Union Teachers at all.

Calls to Shut Down City School Where 0.13 GPA Ranks Near Top Half of Class

I can admit that the failure Is in the demographics of the community, poverty, lack of parental involvement

You fail to provide any reason why nonunion teachers would do better

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

 

[Unkotare]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

My original question was how many? You seem to be suggesting that this is true of all public schools.

 

[Sunsettommy]

You can not admit there is spectacular failure in the Baltimore school system taught by Union Teachers at all.

Calls to Shut Down City School Where 0.13 GPA Ranks Near Top Half of Class

I can admit that the failure Is in the demographics of the community, poverty, lack of parental involvement

You fail to provide any reason why nonunion teachers would do better

Sigh, you try putting words in my mouth again, I never said if union or non union teachers are better than the other.

"Teachers may only be a part of the problem," No distinction between union or non union...... try reading with your glasses next time.

 

[westwall]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

My original question was how many? You seem to be suggesting that this is true of all public schools.

Billy sighs.

4500+ schools nationwide and growing.

I'm an Alpha male. I have no interest in secretarial work. Feel free to seek knowledge on your own.

Or not.

 

[Unkotare]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

My original question was how many? You seem to be suggesting that this is true of all public schools.

Billy sighs.

4500+ schools nationwide and growing.

I'm an Alpha male. I have no interest in secretarial work. Feel free to seek knowledge on your own.

Or not.

“Alpha male”.
You’re a lazy wuss who realizes he can’t support his irresponsibly categorical stance. Now you’re just waving your limp little wrist at it, hoping it will go away before you lose more face.

 

[marvin martian]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

You're being intentionally obtuse, here. You know school districts across the country have publicly stated they inflict CRT or other racist curriculums such as the 1619 Project on their students. You know the performance of public schools across the country have declined, precipitously in some cases, based on quantitative data such as test scores, literacy rates, graduation rates, and college admissions rates.

 

[Rambunctious]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Public school woke curriculum and rules that don't make sense...like being forced to keep a disruptive kid in your class....if a kid is acting up in private school that kid is gone....and the parents lose their money...public school should be the same....
Government fucks everything up...schools included...

 

[Rambunctious]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

You're being intentionally obtuse, here. You know school districts across the country have publicly stated they inflict CRT or other racist curriculums such as the 1619 Project on their students. You know the performance of public schools across the country have declined, precipitously in some cases, based on quantitative data such as test scores, literacy rates, graduation rates, and college admissions rates.

People like Unkotare are the problem...he defends the indefensible when it comes to his beloved teachers unions...

 

[rightwinger]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

The Union protects all teachers and makes sure the rules are followed

 

[marvin martian]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

The Union protects all teachers and makes sure the rules are followed

What rules?

 

[rightwinger]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

The Union protects all teachers and makes sure the rules are followed

What rules?

Rules of disciplinary actions

 

[Rambunctious]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

The Union protects all teachers and makes sure the rules are followed

What rules?

Rules of disciplinary actions

SUCKER.....

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

My original question was how many? You seem to be suggesting that this is true of all public schools.

Billy sighs.

4500+ schools nationwide and growing.

I'm an Alpha male. I have no interest in secretarial work. Feel free to seek knowledge on your own.

Or not.

“Alpha male”.
You’re a lazy wuss who realizes he can’t support his irresponsibly categorical stance. Now you’re just waving your limp little wrist at it, hoping it will go away before you lose more face.

Too funny.

That you are willfully blind does not undermine my stance, but only serves to negate your own.

 

[westwall]

There are some truly great teachers, but the Unions are great at getting rid of them because they expose the rest for what they are.

Schools with unions perform better than those without.
You get what you pay for

Depends on the measurement.

For example... ITED's used to be a pretty big thing, even for other states. That's Iowa Test of Educational Development... Essentially all students took the same test, and then they were measured and given a percental based on how other students did on the test in your age group. WHOA! That sounds like standardized tests there Zin, and I've read your posts in the past you hypocrite! Nono... See it's not a pass/fail. The only thing this test did was measure you against your peers that also took the test. Having a 99% in one category just means you answered more questions correctly than 99% of the people who took the test.

Now... There were A LOT of schools who's graduating GPA was great... That performed very poorly when tested against their peers... Because they didn't' challenge their students. An "A" grade in a class in one school, may very well not make the grade of "B" in another, or possibly even lower.

Meaning a lot of schools with higher GPA's, scored horribly when comparied to students in other schools with lower GPA's... Which essentially told the story that the school was giving out good grades, but the skills they were supposed to be learning was below those other schools. Thus... The schools were just padding numbers at the expense of actually teaching kids how to learn, and instead training them to memorize for tests.

And besides... If you got what you pay for when it comes to education... There would be no need bail out student loans.

Schools with unionized teachers routinely outperform non-union schools regardless of the measure.
Unions not only protect teachers, but teaching conditions

.13 GPA says you are lying.

Are you that stupid to claim that non union teachers would do better in that Baltimore School system with the same demographics?

Damn,Boi
Are you ever an asshole

Yes, the union protects incompetent teachers. That's pretty clear. Don't you think?

The Union protects all teachers and makes sure the rules are followed

The union protects bad teachers by getting rid of the good ones. Here in Nevada there was a teacher of the year that was let go in favor of a teacher who had been in the union longer.

And she was hated by the majority of her students.

Teachers unions protect mediocrity, and punish excellence.

 

[Unkotare]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

You're being intentionally obtuse, here. You know school districts across the country have publicly stated they inflict CRT or other racist curriculums such as the 1619 Project on their students. You know the performance of public schools across the country have declined, precipitously in some cases, based on quantitative data such as test scores, literacy rates, graduation rates, and college admissions rates.

What I know is that I have been doing this for 26 years and no one has ever so much is mentioned any of this nonsense that everyone keeps crying about. What I know is that the public schools in Massachusetts are the best in the nation and have been for several years now, comparing favorably to many countries. What I also know is that the statistics are largely bullshit as other nations compare their carefully selected students among the ones that are still in the educational system at that point only from the highest performing regions of that country with all of the students in the entire United States that we are obligated by law to educate. It is misleading and disingenuous

 

[Unkotare]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

Did this confuse you?

"There is more should you be so motivated."

My original question was how many? You seem to be suggesting that this is true of all public schools.

Billy sighs.

4500+ schools nationwide and growing.

I'm an Alpha male. I have no interest in secretarial work. Feel free to seek knowledge on your own.

Or not.

“Alpha male”.
You’re a lazy wuss who realizes he can’t support his irresponsibly categorical stance. Now you’re just waving your limp little wrist at it, hoping it will go away before you lose more face.

Too funny.

That you are willfully blind does not undermine my stance, but only serves to negate your own.

I only asked you to support your own claim. I didn’t force you to make the claim.

 

[Unkotare]

the public system, where political indoctrination, not knowledge, is the priority.

False premise.

Hardly, judging by the results.

Most recently, would you not consider the inclusion of The 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory in many districts nationwide to be political indoctrination?

Which districts?

A three second search. There is more should you be so motivated.

Fairfax Schools Indoctrinating Children In "Critical Race Theory"

So, just one?

You're being intentionally obtuse, here. You know school districts across the country have publicly stated they inflict CRT or other racist curriculums such as the 1619 Project on their students. You know the performance of public schools across the country have declined, precipitously in some cases, based on quantitative data such as test scores, literacy rates, graduation rates, and college admissions rates.

People like Unkotare are the problem...he defends the indefensible when it comes to his beloved teachers unions...

Show me a post of mine where I have defended any union.