2aguy
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You misunderstand. m14 was begging continuously for someone to make an argument for how to do this piece of shit thing. I got tired of waiting and watching him boast about no one being able to provide a way and / or an argument. So I did it.Don't be a moron. We already have a 200 dollar tax for one type of gun... why not for other types?They are when the stamp is proof of license by the state for ownership.No matter how many times you repeat this, and no matter how hard you stomp your feet while doing so, it will not change the fact that licenses and tax stamps are non-synonymous.
You do know what license means right? License: a permit from an authority to own or use something, do a particular thing, or carry on a trade.
Here's another explanation...:
Step 1: Purchase NFA Item from dealer with class 3 license
The first step in the process is to purchase your firearm since you will need the serial number for your paperwork. When you purchase through a dealer with a class 3 license you can process paperwork through them. Once you have purchased your firearm, the dealer will hold the weapon until you are approved. If your paperwork is not approved for whatever reason, you may or may not get all of your money back depending on your dealer. Some dealers will allow you to put the payment in escrow, but be sure to be clear on all contingencies before buying.
ATF Form 4
ATF Form 4 is the application for tax paid transfer and registration of a firearm. You need to complete this form in duplicate to start the process of obtaining your NFA tax stamp. Remember that any misleading or false statement made on your paperwork is considered a felony offense.
http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-5320-4.pdf
Fingerprints & recent photos
Submitted with your ATF Form 4, you will need 2 sets of fingerprint cards and 2 recent photos of yourself in a passport style. Fingerprint cards can be made at your local Police Station or Sheriff's Department so contact them for more information. As for the passport photos, you can go to any place that takes photos for passports (like Walgreens).
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Form 5330.20
When the transferee of a NFA firearm is an individual, form 5330.20, which is the certification of compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B), must be filed. This form certifies that you have US citizenship.
http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-5330-20.pdf
Signature by Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO)
You will need a CLEO signature on your NFA Form 4. The CLEO signature it to have an authority in your local area check for criminal background or activity and look for a legitimate reason to deny your request. The authority can be your Chief of police, county Sheriff, State or Federal Judge. Don’t be discouraged if one of them is not willing to sign, the worst that is going to happen is you get told no and you have to move on to the next qualified CLEO.
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Tax Stamp
A $200 tax stamp needs to be bought for each weapon transaction submitted unless you are buying a weapon that falls under the “any other weapons” category, in this case the tax stamp will cost $5. A check or money order made payable to the Bureau of ATF can be sent with the application forms to the Bureau of ATF, NFA Branch.
The wait
After the paperwork is received an extensive background check is done and your fingerprints are ran by FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). If all is in order, approval is granted and your ATF form 4, fingerprints, and photos are filed with the BATFE and your duplicate Form 4 with canceled tax stamp is sent to you. The process can take around 90-180 days but recently has been taking 7-11 months.
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It's a helluva lot easier to get a driver's license than it is a license to own machine gun.
yes.....as soon as you implement a 200 dollar tax for voting, along with an extensive course requirement on U.S. government and Constitutional law, and as long as the voter owns a home........then you can think about taxing guns......
Don't be an asshole...we shouldn't have the tax on those guns either....any tax or fee placed on guns makes it harder for the poorest Americans to buy them....and since the poorest of us usually live in democrat controlled hell holes, they are the ones who more often than not have less access to police and must rely more on themselves on a day to day basis for their own protection.
There is absolutely no need to put a tax on guns....a tool protected by the 2nd Amendment.....
And asshole.....why not put a 200 dollar tax on a license to vote, with a mandatory test on our government and Constitution with a property requirement....stupid voters do far more long term harm to all of us than guns do.....
I am 100% with you that this should not be done. My point was merely to outline how it could.
Well why didn't you say so.....I thought you were a gun grabber........I have developed a short temper when it comes to debating gun grabbers...I apologize for mistaking you for one......