Honestly I like Bernie; Students should study for free

[LaDairis]

It is amazing how many think "da government" can just fund their "do nothing" lifestyle. Ask them what the Federal Debt is and they have no idea. They just think "they gotta lotta money" and "they should give some to me."

I say such folks should be deported to Cuba. If you do not appreciate freedom, capitalism, and democracy, you are living in the WRONG COUNTRY, and we sure as hell do not need foreigners from dictatorships and other failed systems coming over here telling us we need to make they same mistakes their own people did long ago, which is why they fled here.

Socialism does not work. It rewards laziness and punishes individual achievement.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

You're an ignorant motherfucker maybe they shouldn't have more children than they can afford to have.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

Sounds like a collage freshman straight out of high school who has never had to deal with the real world before. Of course it could be an academic who's never had to deal with the real world that exists outside of academia........

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

Congress controls spending democrats controlled Congress

 

[bigrebnc1775]

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

I predict real life is going to be a big disappointment for you.

I dropped out of HS and retired at 46. I asked no one for anything.
Why are you so dependent on the gov?

I'm not dependent. I am advocating for FAIRNESS for all. Not just a handout to the 1% which is what happens now. Why should people be PUNISHED for wanting to get a college education? Why not punish high school students for wanting a HS education? At 15 they can start working..maybe we should start making them pay to attend high school!

Paying taxes you actually do pay to go to high school

 

[Norman]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

The education should include chants of the communist manifesto as well.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

She sounds like a transplant living in nyc....NYU student ? lol
They're not exactly rocket scientists

A no trust fund transplant

 

[Indeependent]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

Have you ever paid a bill?
Have you ever paid someone else’s bill?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

How about free housing?

do you want bernie voters to live on the street?

and dont forget free cell phones and free internet

transportation?

a free light rail and buss pass for EVERYONE!

I’m sure there more that we can think of

Don't be silly--not everyone uses a bus or train, but it is almost impossible to get along these days without access to the internet. Even job applications need to go online. So maybe internet SHOULD be universally accessible without cost. I'm not talking about Netflix or any of that stuff. Just WiFi. Not everyone can afford a smartphone.

"Everybody uses it, therefore the government should provide it" is a dumb fucking argument. Y'know what else everybody - and this time, it literally IS everybody - uses? Food. 100% of human beings on planet Earth need to eat. Does that mean that three square meals a day should be provided to every person in the United States "without cost", aka without cost out of their pockets at that moment?

By your "logic", what in the fuck is it allowable to ask people to pay for themselves?

 

[NightFox]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

So you believe that someone paying for what they want out of their pocket by taking out a loan is immoral but using government force to coerce someone else into paying for it isn't ?

Or is it that you just don't realize that someone (other than the borrower) still has to pay the bills if student loans are forgiven?

....and while we're at it, what about all of us that paid for our own education and that of our children? Is it moral to use government to force us to pay for everyone else's as well ?

 

[jknowgood]

Not everyone can afford a smartphone

particularly if they are too lazy to work

but there are still free obama phones

Obama phones never had internet access. They're for making doctor's appointments, communicating with the kids' school, and calling 911 if the bf goes bizerk on ya. 90 minutes a month.

I work and I'm sure I couldn't afford one if I wanted one. I know plenty of people who either don't have one or routinely don't pay their bill BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and therefore can't use it.

My ex's Obama phone had internet. That was years ago.

You must make a really spectacular salary. So how do YOU afford one? Average is $114 p/month. Now that I'm going to be coughing up $165 p/month for Medicare and Part C, I sure as hell don't have an extra $100 p/month for googling shit while I drive.

My bill is right at $55 a month and I have unlimited everything. Been with the company since 2001.

Mines 25.00 a month unlimited data T mobile family plan I pay 25.00 my wife pays 25.00 one of my sons and his wife pay 25.00 each.

I'm with T-Mobile also, but I only have 1 line.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

I shouldn't have to stress and worry about how I am going to pay for my mortgage ... Or car payment ... Or who will pay for MY 3rd home, like Bernie....I think the govt should give me everything free....like we are going to be overtaxed so illegals will have everything free.....

The problem is the 'utopia' you describe does not exist, can not exist. Nothing is free. Idiots, though, are willing to give up EVERYTHING for the promise of 'FREE' stuff.

the 'utopia' you describe does not exist,

Neither does the scenario you offer.

Which is what? I don't see him offering a scenario in that post.

 

[jknowgood]

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

Im older than that. And maybe the real world needs to change for the better. Thats what Bernie will do

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

I predict real life is going to be a big disappointment for you.

I dropped out of HS and retired at 46. I asked no one for anything.
Why are you so dependent on the gov?

I didn't go to college either, but I haven't done bad.

 

[jknowgood]

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

I predict real life is going to be a big disappointment for you.

I dropped out of HS and retired at 46. I asked no one for anything.
Why are you so dependent on the gov?

I'm not dependent. I am advocating for FAIRNESS for all. Not just a handout to the 1% which is what happens now. Why should people be PUNISHED for wanting to get a college education? Why not punish high school students for wanting a HS education? At 15 they can start working..maybe we should start making them pay to attend high school!

Have you seen what colleges are producing. I say drop all federal funding for them.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

I would whether see those who pay no taxes not get a refund. Instead of what you suggested.

Then tell the IRS to stop taking taxes from them. OR here is a bright idea pay them more and MAYBE then they would make enough to pay taxes. With 5 kids EVEN AFTER I get done with college and am making 50 or 60k a year I don't expect to pay taxes.

I asked you what the requirements would be.
Can a low GPA student attend? Someone with a criminal record?
How many would attend just because it's free and turn around and do nothing with their liberals arts degree?
You give anything away for free and it loses its value,just like welfare.

The same they are now! High enough GPA and SAT or ACT scores etc. Why should any of that change? Literally it's just insuring young folks can start a life without 50-100k in student loan debt.

You ignored all of my other concerns.
But it all really boils down to...If you want to go to college pay for it your damn self.

Nope. Just like the government can kiss my white ass if they think I am paying a fucking PENNY back to it for wanting to educate myself so I can get a decent job, you just want the poor to stay dumbed down and to remain the underclass so rich CEO's can get away with slave wages and not paying taxes. Sick society that doesn't want ALL its members to reach their highest capabilities. Our taxes pay for public school from pre k through 12th grade they can do the same fucking thing for college.

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

Some of those bailouts where too bailout the unions. and if you're whiming about the bailout you need to talk to your Democrats because they voted for it to give them the bailouts

Bush was President....he was a republican and MANY republicans voted for that shit as well so.

I predict real life is going to be a big disappointment for you.

I dropped out of HS and retired at 46. I asked no one for anything.
Why are you so dependent on the gov?

I didn't go to college either, but I haven't done bad.

Yep..
My Wife didnt go to college either and we did just fine.
We both made more money than the vast majority of our friends who did.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

How about free housing?

do you want bernie voters to live on the street?

and dont forget free cell phones and free internet

transportation?

a free light rail and buss pass for EVERYONE!

I’m sure there more that we can think of

Don't be silly--not everyone uses a bus or train, but it is almost impossible to get along these days without access to the internet. Even job applications need to go online. So maybe internet SHOULD be universally accessible without cost. I'm not talking about Netflix or any of that stuff. Just WiFi. Not everyone can afford a smartphone.

Not everyone can afford a smartphone

particularly if they are too lazy to work

but there are still free obama phones

Obama phones never had internet access. They're for making doctor's appointments, communicating with the kids' school, and calling 911 if the bf goes bizerk on ya. 90 minutes a month.

I work and I'm sure I couldn't afford one if I wanted one. I know plenty of people who either don't have one or routinely don't pay their bill BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT and therefore can't use it.

Moving away from whether or not people have smart phones, have you ever heard of the public library? Free Internet access for job applications. Problem solved.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think Im voting for Bernie. Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society. These loans are immoral and need to be forgiven.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage and free medical care.

Thats all

Students shouldn’t have to worry about debt and loans while studying to fix our broken society.

I agree. Colleges should stop charging tuition, college employees should work for free.
The joy of educating our children is reward enough.

Also anyone working full time deserves a comfortable $15/hour wage

Absolutely!!

Unless you work at a college, then your wage is $0/hour.

 

[justoffal]

You're kidding, right. Medicare for all would bankrupt us alone. Not to mention free college.

Funny how 19 years of war in Afghanistan and 15 years of war in Iraq etc hasn't bankrupted us, Funny how bailing out CAPITALIST companies didn't bankrupt us, funny how BILLIONS in foreign aid doesn't bankrupt us but providing things 95% of the countries in the world have WOULD bankrupt us.

None of those things even comes close to paying for bernies crazy ideas.

Yes it does. Between making rich assholes and companies actually PAY taxes instead of getting a refund,and have MORE people going to work because they can actually get a college education and keeping them healthy this shit pays for its self.

Like most democrat/socialist schemes the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
So what will the requirements be to enter this free college?

What free college? Its just the fact that the ONLY thing that changes is once you meet the already decent requirements to enter college you don't have to pay to get an education. I swear if we left it up to CONservatives they would be charging High School Students for their education

We do already actually.

Jo

 

[miketx]

It looks to me like progressives are being watered too much.

 

[easyt65]

Tax Payer-Funded Indoctrination Centers......

Next, govt enforced / imposed, rationed health care.....

Why We Must Ration Health Care