House gives Trump 7 days to prove Trump Tower was wiretapped

[OldLady]

The New York Times had screaming headlines that wire tapping was going on. Shouldn't we beleive the Grey Lady?

The sources for that article remained and remain confidential. It seems they have found the FISA warrant that was used to watch the computer interactions between Alfa Bank and another Russian bank, which somehow was periodically trying to communicate with a Trump server. (Not a campaign server, though). It had nothing to do with phones. It had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. It was during the course of the investigation into the Russian hacking of the DNC etc.

 

[depotoo]

They are going to. I believe on Mar 20th.

If there is no warrant to surveil the American, then his identity is protected under the law, but the Obama administration holdovers in the Justice Department clearly violated the law in the case of Mike Flynn. How many other Trump associates were spied on in this illegal manner by the Obama administration?

The Mike Flynn case provides clear evidence that the Obama administration used the pretext of spying on some people for whom they had warrants in order to illegally collect potentially politically damaging intelligence on the Trump campaign and transitional government, making the Obama administration a much greater threat to our democracy than anything the Russians might have hoped to do.

Trumpists are twisting like a pretzel in this thread. From the question of whether Trump's phones were wiretapped, they have now shifted to, "Was information about Flynn illegally disclosed"?
7 days.

The question is, were Trump and his associates illegally surveilled by the Obama administration, and the case of Mike Flynn seems to indicate they were. Your position seems to be it was ok if Obama broke the law and corrupted our intelligence services to try to collect politically damaging intelligence as long as it wasn't by wire tapping.

We'd have to get Comey under oath and ask him about the basis foir the October FISA wiretap

why hasn't the house done this then?

IDK. They should have. We have an ongoing Progressive Coup d'etat and no one seems to take it seriously

 

[Tom Horn]

Trump has the proof but if he shows it, Obama could be arrested and charged. .

Trump could release the proof, and then grant Obama a pardon.

I'd call for Trump's impeachment if he did that....I want to see Obama sitting in Leavenworth but we never will.

 

[depotoo]

Not a Trump server. A Trump Tower server.

The New York Times had screaming headlines that wire tapping was going on. Shouldn't we beleive the Grey Lady?

The sources for that article remained and remain confidential. It seems they have found the FISA warrant that was used to watch the computer interactions between Alfa Bank and another Russian bank, which somehow was periodically trying to communicate with a Trump server. (Not a campaign server, though). It had nothing to do with phones. It had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. It was during the course of the investigation into the Russian hacking of the DNC etc.

 

[nat4900]

March 20 is the deadline given to Donald Trump by members of both parties in the House Intelligence Committee. House lawmakers ask DOJ to offer wiretapping evidence by Monday
In this thread, conservatives are asked to predict what evidence, if any (microwaves, etc) they think Trump will submit.

What happens if not?

What happens????

The request goes before the House and if backed, FUNDING gets revokes from DOJ......Cute, isn't it....LOL

 

[OldLady]

uh oh looks like traitorous trump has cornered himself into having to disclose the sources and methods of his private spy network!

When did Trump say he loved wikileaks? SNL skit? What authority do libs in the house have to order the president to do anything? Do you understand the separation of powers thingy and why it exists?

They reported the Russians were wiretapped

Under the law, if the wire tap includes a conversation with an American for whom no surveillance warrant has been issued, the identity of the American must be masked, but we know for a fact that in the case of Mike Flynn, the mask was removed and the information about his conversation with the Russian ambassador was used by Obama holdovers on the Justice Department to get Flynn fired. How many more Trump associates were illegally spied on by this method?

If the American is suspected of breaking the law, nobody has to mask shit.

"Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election." National security adviser Flynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador, despite denials, officials say

Besides, Trump said that his phones (I.e. Trump's phones) were wiretapped in the Trump tower, and you come here trying to talk about Flynn.

If there is no warrant to surveil the American, then his identity is protected under the law, but the Obama administration holdovers in the Justice Department clearly violated the law in the case of Mike Flynn. How many other Trump associates were spied on in this illegal manner by the Obama administration?

The Mike Flynn case provides clear evidence that the Obama administration used the pretext of spying on some people for whom they had warrants in order to illegally collect potentially politically damaging intelligence on the Trump campaign and transitional government, making the Obama administration a much greater threat to our democracy than anything the Russians might have hoped to do.

Trumpists are twisting like a pretzel in this thread. From the question of whether Trump's phones were wiretapped, they have now shifted to, "Was information about Flynn illegally disclosed"?
7 days.

The question is, were Trump and his associates illegally surveilled by the Obama administration, and the case of Mike Flynn seems to indicate they were. Your position seems to be it was ok if Obama broke the law and corrupted our intelligence services to try to collect politically damaging intelligence as long as it wasn't by wire tapping.

I'm not sure I'm following you. Mike Flynn was recorded because he was on the other end of a phone tap of the Russian ambassador. Yes, as an American his identity is supposed to be "masked," and that information was leaked by someone in the intelligence service who heard Flynn lying on national tv, but that does not logically lead me to conclude that Obama or his administration was snooping on the Trump campaign.

 

[OldLady]

Not a Trump server. A Trump Tower server.

The New York Times had screaming headlines that wire tapping was going on. Shouldn't we beleive the Grey Lady?

The sources for that article remained and remain confidential. It seems they have found the FISA warrant that was used to watch the computer interactions between Alfa Bank and another Russian bank, which somehow was periodically trying to communicate with a Trump server. (Not a campaign server, though). It had nothing to do with phones. It had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. It was during the course of the investigation into the Russian hacking of the DNC etc.

I heard it wasn't even IN Trump Tower. Off site.

 

[Siete]

Not a Trump server. A Trump Tower server.

The New York Times had screaming headlines that wire tapping was going on. Shouldn't we beleive the Grey Lady?

The sources for that article remained and remain confidential. It seems they have found the FISA warrant that was used to watch the computer interactions between Alfa Bank and another Russian bank, which somehow was periodically trying to communicate with a Trump server. (Not a campaign server, though). It had nothing to do with phones. It had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. It was during the course of the investigation into the Russian hacking of the DNC etc.

I heard it wasn't even IN Trump Tower. Off site.

intelligence officials had recorded Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. before Trump took office. Those recordings, appeared to contradict Flynn’s own claims that he had not discussed easing U.S. sanctions on Russia.

Although it remains unclear whether Flynn himself was being monitored for any reason, his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were intercepted because the Russians’ calls are routinely monitored.


Trumps turn.

Provide the evidence Obama wiretapped you Donnieboi.

 

[jc456]

ALL, and I repeat ALL, Trump has to do is pony up the evidence that proves his TWEET is true.

how hard can that be?


IF HE FUCKING HAS ANY ?

the evidence is in the flynn file bubba, live with it.

PROVE IT

prove what exactly?

the evidence is in the flynn file

it is!!!

 

[Siete]

ALL, and I repeat ALL, Trump has to do is pony up the evidence that proves his TWEET is true.

how hard can that be?


IF HE FUCKING HAS ANY ?

the evidence is in the flynn file bubba, live with it.

PROVE IT

prove what exactly?

the evidence is in the flynn file

it is!!!

when and where

 

[defcon4]

March 20 is the deadline given to Donald Trump by members of both parties in the House Intelligence Committee. House lawmakers ask DOJ to offer wiretapping evidence by Monday
In this thread, conservatives are asked to predict what evidence, if any (microwaves, etc) they think Trump will submit.

What happens if not?

What happens????

The request goes before the House and if backed, FUNDING gets revokes from DOJ......Cute, isn't it....LOL

Who will revoke funding? I am just looking at the House of Representatives Republican 241 : Democrat 194
The odds are not in your favor... now, go ahead and laugh some more

 

[jc456]

When did Trump say he loved wikileaks? SNL skit? What authority do libs in the house have to order the president to do anything? Do you understand the separation of powers thingy and why it exists?

Under the law, if the wire tap includes a conversation with an American for whom no surveillance warrant has been issued, the identity of the American must be masked, but we know for a fact that in the case of Mike Flynn, the mask was removed and the information about his conversation with the Russian ambassador was used by Obama holdovers on the Justice Department to get Flynn fired. How many more Trump associates were illegally spied on by this method?

If the American is suspected of breaking the law, nobody has to mask shit.

"Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election." National security adviser Flynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador, despite denials, officials say

Besides, Trump said that his phones (I.e. Trump's phones) were wiretapped in the Trump tower, and you come here trying to talk about Flynn.

If there is no warrant to surveil the American, then his identity is protected under the law, but the Obama administration holdovers in the Justice Department clearly violated the law in the case of Mike Flynn. How many other Trump associates were spied on in this illegal manner by the Obama administration?

The Mike Flynn case provides clear evidence that the Obama administration used the pretext of spying on some people for whom they had warrants in order to illegally collect potentially politically damaging intelligence on the Trump campaign and transitional government, making the Obama administration a much greater threat to our democracy than anything the Russians might have hoped to do.

Trumpists are twisting like a pretzel in this thread. From the question of whether Trump's phones were wiretapped, they have now shifted to, "Was information about Flynn illegally disclosed"?
7 days.

The question is, were Trump and his associates illegally surveilled by the Obama administration, and the case of Mike Flynn seems to indicate they were. Your position seems to be it was ok if Obama broke the law and corrupted our intelligence services to try to collect politically damaging intelligence as long as it wasn't by wire tapping.

I'm not sure I'm following you. Mike Flynn was recorded because he was on the other end of a phone tap of the Russian ambassador. Yes, as an American his identity is supposed to be "masked," and that information was leaked by someone in the intelligence service who heard Flynn lying on national tv, but that does not logically lead me to conclude that Obama or his administration was snooping on the Trump campaign.

well he was at trump tower when that tapped occurred and it was on the Trump Tower side of the line. ooppps, you need a warrant. I want to see the warrant.

 

[nat4900]

Who will revoke funding? I am just looking at the House of Representatives Republican 241 : Democrat 194
The odds are not in your favor... now, go ahead and laugh some more

Good point......Let the House right wingers side with Trump's DOJ instead of wanting the truth to come out....and see how well THAT goes over.......LOL

 

[depotoo]

Strange how none of Hillary's people's conversations were ok...

Not a Trump server. A Trump Tower server.

The New York Times had screaming headlines that wire tapping was going on. Shouldn't we beleive the Grey Lady?

The sources for that article remained and remain confidential. It seems they have found the FISA warrant that was used to watch the computer interactions between Alfa Bank and another Russian bank, which somehow was periodically trying to communicate with a Trump server. (Not a campaign server, though). It had nothing to do with phones. It had nothing to do with the Trump campaign. It was during the course of the investigation into the Russian hacking of the DNC etc.

I heard it wasn't even IN Trump Tower. Off site.

intelligence officials had recorded Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. before Trump took office. Those recordings, appeared to contradict Flynn’s own claims that he had not discussed easing U.S. sanctions on Russia.

Although it remains unclear whether Flynn himself was being monitored for any reason, his conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were intercepted because the Russians’ calls are routinely monitored.


Trumps turn.

Provide the evidence Obama wiretapped you Donnieboi.

 

[Theowl32]

Let's say the media finds 10 things Trump is right about and 2 things he is wrong about. The entire focus of the hype will be on the 2 and will ignore the 10.

That's because they expect, especially once someone becomes president, and the world is listening to his every word, that nearly 100% of what he says has been fact-checked, verified, gone over, and gone over again.

The 16 words that George W. Bush spoke at the 2002 state of the union about Iraq trying to get uranium from Africa is an example of something George Tenet took the blame for it not being up to presidential standards of being true.

So if Trump is getting 20% of what he says wrong, somebody isn't doing their job.

Hello hypocrite.

Just to prove you are a pathetic sorosbot and here to spread propaganda as you work as an intern, go ahead and comment on these.



Please. If you are not a fake soros brainwashed hack, comment on those. Oldie but goody. Certainly makes a point, does it not?

Oh wait, you said if they were a president that some "factcheck" group should be on it and everything the president says should be 100% true.

Ok then, go ahead and comment on these from your half black in chief.



Oh, you said something about Booooosh and wmds. Huh, lets see you comment on these.



Go ahead and answer that the best way you can in the best double talking hypocritical way you can.

While you are at it, what is your double talking hypocritical response to what Bill your god said about illegal ALIENS.



Please, explain it.

I know you will ignore all of that. Tell soros hi.

 

[defcon4]

Who will revoke funding? I am just looking at the House of Representatives Republican 241 : Democrat 194
The odds are not in your favor... now, go ahead and laugh some more

Good point......Let the House right wingers side with Trump's DOJ instead of wanting the truth to come out....and see how well THAT goes over.......LOL

I am glad you are having a good time, albeit your LOL sounds more like desperate, hysterical laugh of misery than a good laugh while having fun. Who cares how it goes over? Whatever Trump or Repubs do, it is never good enough for you leftists.
This illustrates it well:
"President Trump invited the Pope for lunch on his mega yacht, the Pope accepted and during lunch, a puff of wind blew the Pontiff’s hat off, right into the water.
It floated off about 50 feet, then the wind died down and it just floated in place. The crew and the secret service were scrambling to launch a boat to go get it, when Trump waved them off, saying “Never mind, boys, I’ll get it.” The Donald climbed over the side of the yacht, walked on the water to the hat, picked it up, walked back on the water, climbed onto the yacht, and handed the Pope his hat. The crew was speechless. The security team and the Pope’s entourage were speechless. No one knew what to say, not even the Pope.
But that afternoon, after meeting to decide the news and confer with their CIA censors editors, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN all knew how to cover the story.
Their banner headlines read:

“TRUMP CAN’T SWIM!”
Trump Walks on Water, Pope is Speechless

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has the proof but if he shows it, Obama could be arrested and charged. .

Trump could release the proof, and then grant Obama a pardon.

I'd call for Trump's impeachment if he did that....I want to see Obama sitting in Leavenworth but we never will.

Once his Russian connections are revealed, it will be Trump with a solitary cell in Leavenworth

 

[depotoo]

An intern for Soros. Makes sense. I have suspected a few others here, as well

Let's say the media finds 10 things Trump is right about and 2 things he is wrong about. The entire focus of the hype will be on the 2 and will ignore the 10.

That's because they expect, especially once someone becomes president, and the world is listening to his every word, that nearly 100% of what he says has been fact-checked, verified, gone over, and gone over again.

The 16 words that George W. Bush spoke at the 2002 state of the union about Iraq trying to get uranium from Africa is an example of something George Tenet took the blame for it not being up to presidential standards of being true.

So if Trump is getting 20% of what he says wrong, somebody isn't doing their job.

Hello hypocrite.

Just to prove you are a pathetic sorosbot and here to spread propaganda as you work as an intern, go ahead and comment on these.



Please. If you are not a fake soros brainwashed hack, comment on those. Oldie but goody. Certainly makes a point, does it not?

Oh wait, you said if they were a president that some "factcheck" group should be on it and everything the president says should be 100% true.

Ok then, go ahead and comment on these from your half black in chief.



Oh, you said something about Booooosh and wmds. Huh, lets see you comment on these.



Go ahead and answer that the best way you can in the best double talking hypocritical way you can.

While you are at it, what is your double talking hypocritical response to what Bill your god said about illegal ALIENS.



Please, explain it.

I know you will ignore all of that. Tell soros hi.

 

[Tom Horn]

When Trump sells Putin the uranium that Hillary didn't sell him, let me know. Oh, and her campaign had frequent contacts with russian agents during the campaign. For some reason the NYTimes won't report this....I wonder why?

 

[Tom Horn]

Once his Russian connections are revealed, it will be Trump with a solitary cell in Leavenworth