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This is seriously fucked up.
House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill
According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.
Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.
"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.
As it was written, it was too broad and took away rights from people who posed no danger. People have a right to protect themselves and this law was intended to strip rights on a wide scale. And the left found ways to paint everyone as mentally ill. Depressed over the loss of a loved one? You're mentally unstable.
I wonder if all those rioters in the streets who are beating up innocent people and calling for a bloody revolution should have their rights denied. They are the problem with society, along with the gangs and other scum.
They were IN FACT not judged by a court, the SS just makes the decision based on the application for ss. I am on that list because the SS when they approved my disability decided I was unable to handle my finances, no Judge no court no ruling. Your facts are simply wrong.Facts.The headline is a BLATANT LIE. The rule made it so if you were assigned by the SS that you could not handle your finances then you are somehow incompetent to own a fire arm. That is NOT severe mental illness at ALL. Get your facts straight before lying to us all.
This order applied only to individuals receiving Social Security benefits through a Representative payee account. From the SSA website.
The law requires most minor children and all legally incompetent adults to have payees.
Social Security Administration - Representative Payee Program
These are people who have been determined by a court to be mentally defective, in other words, "adjudicated". Now, what is the definition of somewhat "dangerously mentally ill" and forbidden BY LAW from purchasing a handgun"
Dangerously Mentally Ill: Federal law prohibits firearm possession by individuals who have been “committed to a mental institution” or “adjudicated as a mental defective.”
Categories of Prohibited People | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
So again, you are defending the right of gun sellers to remain ignorant to the fact that their buyer has been adjudicated mentally defective and therefore forbidden from purchasing a gun.
Facts.The headline is a BLATANT LIE. The rule made it so if you were assigned by the SS that you could not handle your finances then you are somehow incompetent to own a fire arm. That is NOT severe mental illness at ALL. Get your facts straight before lying to us all.
This order applied only to individuals receiving Social Security benefits through a Representative payee account. From the SSA website.
The law requires most minor children and all legally incompetent adults to have payees.
Social Security Administration - Representative Payee Program
These are people who have been determined by a court to be mentally defective, in other words, "adjudicated". Now, what is the definition of somewhat "dangerously mentally ill" and forbidden BY LAW from purchasing a handgun"
Dangerously Mentally Ill: Federal law prohibits firearm possession by individuals who have been “committed to a mental institution” or “adjudicated as a mental defective.”
Categories of Prohibited People | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
So again, you are defending the right of gun sellers to remain ignorant to the fact that their buyer has been adjudicated mentally defective and therefore forbidden from purchasing a gun.
This is seriously fucked up.
House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill
According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.
Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.
"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.
In Trumpville, immigrants trying to escape death are banned from entering the US, while the mentally ill get to have guns.
Nothing to see, here, folks. Just the same old stuff.
BTW. I am a retired Chartered Financial Consultant, and thanks to the GOP, I can now legally charge you a fee to advise you to buy an investment that is not so good for you, but pays me a fat commission. I might as well get out my old republican polyester canary yellow golfing pants, and get back into the game!
But remember, their argument is "Gun's Don't Kill" ..yeah right!This is seriously fucked up.
House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill
According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.
Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.
"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.
But remember, their argument is "Gun's Don't Kill" ..yeah right!
My neighbor of 18 years wife left him , police were suppose to collect the gun from him because he was mentally unstable...well some how he got a gun and murdered his 24 year old son visiting him...he tried to get his daughter to visit the same night..
He then killed himself.
These fuc*#ing paid off people passing laws are making millions from the NRA I am sure...
u realize you say that and then go on and back it up? Lol
The Congress has been corrupted!
Every Pol accepts 'donations' and the honest ones admit they are efforts to influence them. But of course they deny the donation will have any impact on their vote, which is bullshit.
The fact is some 'donations' are much worse than a bribe, when the special interests - such as the NRA - are able to extort votes by the threat of supporting a more friendly person to oppose the incumbent in a primary. Ben Franklin was spot on when he said we have a republic, if we can keep it. Thanks to Citizens United, McCutcheon and five members of the Supreme Court, we couldn't and haven't been able to prevent the NRA from its desire to arm every person within our borders.
Welcome to the Plutocratic Oligarchy of America.
Another useless off topic post from you trying to derail the thread.
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statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?
Good, the Comstituion should apply to all Americans who have not broken the law.
Snowflakes like to prevent others from exercising their first ammendment rights.
Should there be a mental health evaluation completed for anyone attempting to exercise their first ammendment rights?
In Trumpville, immigrants trying to escape death are banned from entering the US, while the mentally ill get to have guns.
Nothing to see, here, folks. Just the same old stuff.
BTW. I am a retired Chartered Financial Consultant, and thanks to the GOP, I can now legally charge you a fee to advise you to buy an investment that is not so good for you, but pays me a fat commission. I might as well get out my old republican polyester canary yellow golfing pants, and get back into the game!
But remember, their argument is "Gun's Don't Kill" ..yeah right!This is seriously fucked up.
House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill
According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.
Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.
"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.
But remember, their argument is "Gun's Don't Kill" ..yeah right!
My neighbor of 18 years wife left him , police were suppose to collect the gun from him because he was mentally unstable...well some how he got a gun and murdered his 24 year old son visiting him...he tried to get his daughter to visit the same night..
He then killed himself.
These fuc*#ing paid off people passing laws are making millions from the NRA I am sure...
u realize you say that and then go on and back it up? Lol
I own several guns, to date none of them has killed anyone. Are my guns defective?
good to have this rule gone !!
His "rule" isn't about mental illness (much less severe mental illness) it's about finances. Should SS or the VA have the authority to strip someone of their Constitutional rights according to their own standards? Obviously not.
statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?
I've owned guns since my 11th birthday.
Actually they are a high risk group for predation due to their age and frailties. Consequently, they should always be armed.Wrong rule.statists look for any reason to take away ones liberties.More evidence the NRA is a terrorist organization, and the fools who posted #2 & #3 above who enable the NRA to put profit over the people.
Should criminals have guns?
Should children have guns?
Should elderly Americans have guns?
Typical, they're probably worried these folks could end up shooting a poor person who broke into their homeAbout 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
Facts.The headline is a BLATANT LIE. The rule made it so if you were assigned by the SS that you could not handle your finances then you are somehow incompetent to own a fire arm. That is NOT severe mental illness at ALL. Get your facts straight before lying to us all.
This order applied only to individuals receiving Social Security benefits through a Representative payee account. From the SSA website.
The law requires most minor children and all legally incompetent adults to have payees.
Social Security Administration - Representative Payee Program
The law requires most minor children and all legally incompetent adults to have payees.
Dangerously Mentally Ill: Federal law prohibits firearm possession by individuals who have been “committed to a mental institution” or “adjudicated as a mental defective.”
Categories of Prohibited People | Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
So again, you are defending the right of gun sellers to remain ignorant to the fact that their buyer has been adjudicated mentally defective and therefore forbidden from purchasing a gun.
His "rule" isn't about mental illness (much less severe mental illness) it's about finances. Should SS or the VA have the authority to strip someone of their Constitutional rights according to their own standards? Obviously not.
Duty to warn refers to the responsibility of a counselor or therapist to inform third parties or authorities if a client poses a threat to himself or herself or another identifiable individual. It is one of a just a few instances where a therapist can breach client confidentiality.
Tarasoff v. Regents of the University of California, 17 Cal. 3d 425, 551 P.2d 334, 131 Cal. Rptr. 14 (Cal. 1976), was a case in which the Supreme Court of California held that mental health professionals have a duty to protect individuals who are being threatened with bodily harm by a patient.
Staree Decisis is the doctrine that rules or principles of law on which a court rested a previous decision are authoritative in all future cases in which the facts are substantially the same. ... stare decisis is, after all, the bedrock principle of the rule of law.
Food for thought ^^^
This is seriously fucked up.
House Votes To Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales To the Severely Mentally Ill
According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.
The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.
Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.
"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 six- and seven-year-olds and six adults.
The problem is the SSA made the definition far to broad. Even the ACLU, no staunch defender of the 2nd amendment, opposed the rule.
Not being able to handle one's own finances as you get older does not mean the person is incompetent. For that a judge has to decide.
Before or after a harm is committed will the judge decide on the competence of the actor.