House votes to REMOVE all Confederate statues from Congress

[schmidlap]

Confederates fought a self-defense war, against armies that traveled to the south, to attack them there.

The United States defended the United States within the United States.

Cry baby sore losers seem to abound as of late.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

They should remove Lincoln also seeing he defended slave owners…

 

[Devils_Advocate]

They were invading sovereign states and slaughtering Americans.

The military forces of the United States were defending United States soil on the soil of the United States.

The United States idid not invade another nation. It suppressed a rebellion within the United States.

No monument to anyone who turned against the United States, rejected the United States Constitution, and killed those defending the United States should defile that United States soil.

Fact is the Confederate States were separated from the rest of the U.S., and they ran as a independent country, so yes Lincoln Army did invade the South…

 

[bripat9643]

They were invading sovereign states and slaughtering Americans.

The military forces of the United States were defending United States soil on the soil of the United States.

The United States idid not invade another nation. It suppressed a rebellion within the United States.

No monument to anyone who turned against the United States, rejected the United States Constitution, and killed those defending the United States should defile that United States soil.

Fact is the Confederate States were separated from the rest of the U.S., and they ran as a independent country, so yes Lincoln Army did invade the South…

Whether they seceded of not, it was a constitutional violation for Lincoln to wage are on them.

 

[bripat9643]

They should remove Lincoln also seeing he defended slave owners…

Lincoln was a white supremacist who wanted to send all the former slaves back to Africa.

 

[bravoactual]

Interesting that 120 Republicans voted against this campaign to tear down these statues of Democrats and erase our country's history.

Pretty sure that the Communists did similar.

House votes to REMOVE all Confederate statues from Congress and replace a bust of Chief Justice Roger Taney with Thurgood Marshall - despite opposition from 120 Republicans​

• Bill will remove statues and busts of Confederacy supporters from Congress
• It includes a bust of Roger Taney, the U.S. chief justice best known for his Dred Scott pro-slavery decision
• The statue of the President of the Confederacy Jefferson Davis will also go
• Democrats were unanimous in their support for the bill and were joined by 67 Republicans, with the bill passed by a vote of 285-120.
• 'Let me state a simple fact. All the statues being removed by this bill are statues of Democrats,' House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said before the vote

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About fucking time too.

 

[schmidlap]

were separated from the rest of the U.S., and they ran as a independent country, so yes Lincoln Army did invade the South…

The fact is that there was never a real nation anywhere on earth called the "Confederate States of America." No such nation was ever recognized by any actual nation, and the land that it pretended to be was always part of the United States. Lincoln deployed United States troops within the United Staes in defense of the United States.

My Uncle Dave could declare that the island where he lives off the coast of Maine is the sovereign nation of Daveland, but he's not going to be recognized as such by anyone - except maybe his cousin Bert.

The legitimacy of any nation is established by the recognition of actual, sovereign nations. Pretending otherwise does not make it so.

 

[bripat9643]

were separated from the rest of the U.S., and they ran as a independent country, so yes Lincoln Army did invade the South…

The fact is that there was never a real nation anywhere on earth called the "Confederate States of America." No such nation was ever recognized by any actual nation, and the land that it pretended to be was always part of the United States. Lincoln deployed United States troops within the United Staes in defense of the United States.

My Uncle Dave could declare that the island where he lives off the coast of Maine is the sovereign nation of Daveland, but he's not going to be recognized as such by anyone - except maybe his cousin Bert.

The legitimacy of any nation is established by the recognition of actual, sovereign nations. Pretending otherwise does not make it so.

Is Taiwan a real nation?

 

[schmidlap]

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Is Taiwan a real nation?

Unlike the so-called "Confederate States of America" or "Daveland," Taiwan is presently recognized by 4 sovereign nations, plus the Holy See.

Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

 

[bripat9643]

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Is Taiwan a real nation?

Unlike the so-called "Confederate States of America" or "Daveland," Taiwan is presently recognized by 4 sovereign nations, plus the Holy See.

4 out of 176? We don't even recognize them.

 

[Unkotare]

were separated from the rest of the U.S., and they ran as a independent country, so yes Lincoln Army did invade the South…

The fact is that there was never a real nation anywhere on earth called the "Confederate States of America." No such nation was ever recognized by any actual nation, and the land that it pretended to be was always part of the United States. Lincoln deployed United States troops within the United Staes in defense of the United States.

My Uncle Dave could declare that the island where he lives off the coast of Maine is the sovereign nation of Daveland, but he's not going to be recognized as such by anyone - except maybe his cousin Bert.

The legitimacy of any nation is established by the recognition of actual, sovereign nations. Pretending otherwise does not make it so.

Is Taiwan a real nation?

Yes.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

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[schmidlap]

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Is Taiwan a real nation?

Unlike the so-called "Confederate States of America" or "Daveland," Taiwan is presently recognized by 4 sovereign nations, plus the Holy See.

4 out of 176? We don't even recognize them.

Taiwan never attempted to secede from the People's Republic of China.

Is is an entirely different matter from a part of the United States trying to claim that is is not part of the United States. Not a single real nation ever recognized the Confederacy, and all that territory remained a part of the United States.

 

[Cecilie1200]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

www.aoc.gov

Maybe they could learn about the efforts that our nation underwent to heal the wounds they are now trying to tear back open.

 

[schmidlap]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

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I recognize the history of slavery, and accept that it was an integral part of a regional economy.

I oppose erecting within the United States monuments to anyone who rejected the Constitution of the United States and slaughtered United States military defending the United States.

 

[schmidlap]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

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Maybe they could learn about the efforts that our nation underwent to heal the wounds they are now trying to tear back open.

Maybe we could progress, and remove from public venues racist monuments that were erected during the Jim Crow era.

1911 was a big year for putting up Confederate monuments in a number of states; across the South, numerous statues were erected during the Jim Crow era. Then more were erected while the KKK flourished, during the civil rights era.​

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[In the South, Confederate monuments aren't simply a black-and-white issue]​

 

[bripat9643]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

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I recognize the history of slavery, and accept that it was an integral part of a regional economy.

I oppose erecting within the United States monuments to anyone who rejected the Constitution of the United States and slaughtered United States military defending the United States.

You aren't even an American, douchebag. Why should any American care what you want?

The United States militry was invading the states and slaughtering American citizens. They weren't defending anything.

 

[bripat9643]

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Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

>Why should the United States be forced to endure monuments to individuals who rejected the United States and its Constitution, and took up arms against the United States?

Because we kissed and made up, and these people played an important role in the history of the United States Government, I suppose. It's just a statue. No need to worship it. It's a piece of art. Look at it, admire the fine workmanship, and read the plaque to learn a little history about our nation's founding or other history.

Yes, some were Confederates and/or slave owners. There are a few statues/monuments at the Capitol related to slavery...

The Art Collection | Architect of the Capitol

Explore the more than 300 works of art, architectural elements and landscape features cared for by the Architect of the Capitol.

www.aoc.gov

Maybe they could learn about the efforts that our nation underwent to heal the wounds they are now trying to tear back open.

Maybe we could progress, and remove from public venues racist monuments that were erected during the Jim Crow era.

1911 was a big year for putting up Confederate monuments in a number of states; across the South, numerous statues were erected during the Jim Crow era. Then more were erected while the KKK flourished, during the civil rights era.​

​

[In the South, Confederate monuments aren't simply a black-and-white issue]​

The Lincoln memorial was dedicated in 1922, during the deepest part of the Jim Crow era.

 

[bripat9643]

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Is Taiwan a real nation?

Unlike the so-called "Confederate States of America" or "Daveland," Taiwan is presently recognized by 4 sovereign nations, plus the Holy See.

4 out of 176? We don't even recognize them.

Taiwan never attempted to secede from the People's Republic of China.

Is is an entirely different matter from a part of the United States trying to claim that is is not part of the United States. Not a single real nation ever recognized the Confederacy, and all that territory remained a part of the United States.

Of course they did. How do you imagine this process should occur?

Who put you in charge of determining what defines a "real nation?"

 

[protectionist]

Confederates fought a self-defense war, against armies that traveled to the south, to attack them there.

The United States defended the United States within the United States.

Cry baby sore losers seem to abound as of late.

Confederates fought a self-defense war, against armies that traveled to the south, to attack them there.