‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

[Meister]

True. And Trump never claimed to be a 'Fiscal Conservative.' So, the shocking Debt continues to rise. The Swamp Creatures will continue to spend money they don't have. It is what it is.

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

No, it isn't. It is not Your money if we have any Problems in our Republic. That is why, Congress has the social Power to TAX. Socialism starts with a social Contract.

Yes, it is my money, no matter what you think. I am glad that you admit you're a full blown socialist. You must live in the bay area of Ca., frisco?

Congress has the Power to Tax not the Recommendation to Tax.

And, has the power to cut taxes and leave the person with more of his money. It's not income redistribution as you claimed earlier.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Workers still haven’t recovered from that pay cut

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

Can't argue that, but, having said that, the student loan debt rose substantially when the government took over that sector of the loan industry.
This is what happens when the government gets involved. I can't think of anything where it lowered the costs.

Part of it is supply and demand. The more demand and less supply, the higher the cost just like rental property.

 

[danielpalos]

like the right wing has any credibility.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

No, it isn't. It is not Your money if we have any Problems in our Republic. That is why, Congress has the social Power to TAX. Socialism starts with a social Contract.

Yes, it is my money, no matter what you think. I am glad that you admit you're a full blown socialist. You must live in the bay area of Ca., frisco?

Congress has the Power to Tax not the Recommendation to Tax.

And, has the power to cut taxes and leave the person with more of his money. It's not income redistribution as you claimed earlier.

yes, it is; especially when it is Financed.

And, let cut our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror Because the Right Wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them.

 

[danielpalos]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
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dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

 

[Cellblock2429]

like the right wing has any credibility.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

/---- /It's sad that the Congressional democRAT party has nothing to do with the budget process. For 50 years they sat idly by and let the Republicans pass each and every budget and approve each and every cost over run. If democRATs were only in power for as little as two years they could reel in this abusive government spending.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????

 

[danielpalos]

like the right wing has any credibility.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

/---- /It's sad that the Congressional democRAT party has nothing to do with the budget process. For 50 years they sat idly by and let the Republicans pass each and every budget and approve each and every cost over run. If democRATs were only in power for as little as two years they could reel in this abusive government spending.
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what abusive government? let's end the drug war.

we know more about economics, now.

 

[danielpalos]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????
View attachment 206281

Tax cut economics merely helps persons of wealth. Why do the rich need a tax break that increases our Debt?

Why do you need a tax cut more than we need upgraded infrastructure. Capitalism more selfish than socialism.

 

[SmokeALib]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????
View attachment 206281

Tax cut economics merely helps persons of wealth. Why do the rich need a tax break that increases our Debt?

Why do you need a tax cut more than we need upgraded infrastructure. Capitalism more selfish than socialism.

Did Rachel tell you that?

 

[danielpalos]

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????
View attachment 206281

Tax cut economics merely helps persons of wealth. Why do the rich need a tax break that increases our Debt?

Why do you need a tax cut more than we need upgraded infrastructure. Capitalism more selfish than socialism.

Did Rachel tell you that?

8:50

 

[rightwinger]

Workers still haven’t recovered from that pay cut

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

 

[BluesLegend]

Its the Dems who drove rents through the roof, asking the people who screwed you over for help

 

[Cellblock2429]

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

 

[Cellblock2429]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????
View attachment 206281

Tax cut economics merely helps persons of wealth. Why do the rich need a tax break that increases our Debt?

Why do you need a tax cut more than we need upgraded infrastructure. Capitalism more selfish than socialism.

/——/ Because the money is never used to fix the problems. It’s spent to maintain the politicians power base and to line their own pockets. Just look at Obozo’s stimuless

 

[danielpalos]

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

/---/ Yes, letting people keep more of their own money really does help. You'd know this first hand if you were ever robbed ( akin to income taxes) and the mugger let you keep $10 for cab fare so you could get home. The robber (Think IRS) was kind enough to let you keep some of your own money. How could that be bad? Now if he let you keep $15 of your own money would you complain, "How to you plan on paying for that giveaway?"
View attachment 206270

dear, financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs.

/----/ "financing is merely income redistribution. who gets to invest and take tax write offs."
Huh????
View attachment 206281

Tax cut economics merely helps persons of wealth. Why do the rich need a tax break that increases our Debt?

Why do you need a tax cut more than we need upgraded infrastructure. Capitalism more selfish than socialism.

/——/ Because the money is never used to fix the problems. It’s spent to maintain the politicians power base and to line their own pockets. Just look at Obozo’s stimuless

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics. Fake news all y'all have.

But by March 2009, monetary policy had done all it could. It was evident more fiscal policy was needed. No doubt, the economic stimulus package inspired the confidence needed to turn the economy around.

Did Obama's Stimulus Plan Work?

 

[basquebromance]

dang, i thought you people are too dumb to engage in a meaningful discussion about policy. i've been proven wrong!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

dang, i thought you people are too dumb to engage in a meaningful discussion about policy. i've been proven wrong!

it shows what can happen if everyone ignores the idiots like the post above yours.
Thread after thread gets turned into yet another redundant-meaningless right vs. left rock throwing contest when folks here start responding to the low information morons.

edit: And of course we have just as many on the right.

 

[Cellblock2429]

dang, i thought you people are too dumb to engage in a meaningful discussion about policy. i've been proven wrong!

it shows what can happen if everyone ignores the idiots like the post above yours.
Thread after thread gets turned into yet another redundant-meaningless right vs. left rock throwing contest when folks here start responding to the low information morons.

edit: And of course we have just as many on the right.

/---/ Republicans bring a knife to a rock fight.