‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

[Cellblock2429]

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

/——/ Same for me except I went to SUNY downstate and my beer was free because my job was tending bar at a college pub in Queens. The high rollers had Heineken for $1 a bottle. I was happy with Shafffer or Rheingold on tap.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Demolosers trying to build back the unemployed and food stampers eh. Yep, ruin the country, it’s who they are 60 years now. Get all the blacks back on plantations

/——/ It May not be so easy next time if Dems manage to steal the election.

 

[jc456]

Demolosers trying to build back the unemployed and food stampers eh. Yep, ruin the country, it’s who they are 60 years now. Get all the blacks back on plantations

I heard Dallas cowboy Prescot will honor the flag and was immediately told to get back on the plantation or else. Gotta love them racist demolosers

 

[Cellblock2429]

$15 an hour minimum wage would pay for what I used to get for $2.10 an hour

/—-/ I always use a factor of 10 for an estimate. Gas was about 35 cents a gallon, today it’s about $3.50. A new Chevy was about $2,500 and today they are about $25,000 same with minimum wage.

 

[jc456]

Demolosers trying to build back the unemployed and food stampers eh. Yep, ruin the country, it’s who they are 60 years now. Get all the blacks back on plantations

/——/ It May not be so easy next time if Dems manage to steal the election.

I don’t think they stand a fking chance, many blacks and Hispanics are moving on to republicans

 

[JBond]

‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

Dear Senate Democrats, good effort, but tax credits won’t solve this crisis. Working people need Housing-For-All: 10 million homes in 10 years.

Great. New slums paid for by the productive. The old slums are not good enough. Sigh...

 

[rightwinger]

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

 

[rightwinger]

Demolosers trying to build back the unemployed and food stampers eh. Yep, ruin the country, it’s who they are 60 years now. Get all the blacks back on plantations

/——/ It May not be so easy next time if Dems manage to steal the election.

I don’t think they stand a fking chance, many blacks and Hispanics are moving on to republicans

Republicans have lost them forever

 

[rightwinger]

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

/——/ Same for me except I went to SUNY downstate and my beer was free because my job was tending bar at a college pub in Queens. The high rollers had Heineken for $1 a bottle. I was happy with Shafffer or Rheingold on tap.

I used to buy a case of Schaefer in refillable bottles for $3.75

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

I see, so what you're telling me is that if you were a kid today making $15.00 per hour, you could easily afford to put yourself through college at 30K a year. Or perhaps a brand new car in six months. Well, I guess if you could go without food and shelter you'd be doing fine. After all, at $15.00 an hour for 40 hours a week, a half year wages would be about 12.5K. What kind of car did you plan on buying anyhow?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

/——/ Same for me except I went to SUNY downstate and my beer was free because my job was tending bar at a college pub in Queens. The high rollers had Heineken for $1 a bottle. I was happy with Shafffer or Rheingold on tap.

I used to buy a case of Schaefer in refillable bottles for $3.75

And how much more taxes are you paying today on that case of Schaefer's?

 

[Markle]

Where are you getting your red herrings from? Seattle and San Francisco prove the right wing is just, fake news.

So to a Progressive, failure proves success?

 

[Markle]

Republicans have lost them forever [blacks and Hispanics]

Not according to the Presidential Election of 2016.

 

[rightwinger]

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

I see, so what you're telling me is that if you were a kid today making $15.00 per hour, you could easily afford to put yourself through college at 30K a year. Or perhaps a brand new car in six months. Well, I guess if you could go without food and shelter you'd be doing fine. After all, at $15.00 an hour for 40 hours a week, a half year wages would be about 12.5K. What kind of car did you plan on buying anyhow?

Entry level new car
Just like you could buy in 1972. VW, Pinto, Corolla, Vega

$15 an hour will help students pay for college without massive debt.

That is what minimum wage should do

 

[dblack]

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

I see, so what you're telling me is that if you were a kid today making $15.00 per hour, you could easily afford to put yourself through college at 30K a year. Or perhaps a brand new car in six months. Well, I guess if you could go without food and shelter you'd be doing fine. After all, at $15.00 an hour for 40 hours a week, a half year wages would be about 12.5K. What kind of car did you plan on buying anyhow?

Entry level new car
Just like you could buy in 1972. VW, Pinto, Corolla, Vega

$15 an hour will help students pay for college without massive debt.

That is what minimum wage should do

But if the minimum wage has no detrimental effects, why would we stop there? If we made it $40/hr, they could pay for college with cash and get a decent Subaru.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

I see, so what you're telling me is that if you were a kid today making $15.00 per hour, you could easily afford to put yourself through college at 30K a year. Or perhaps a brand new car in six months. Well, I guess if you could go without food and shelter you'd be doing fine. After all, at $15.00 an hour for 40 hours a week, a half year wages would be about 12.5K. What kind of car did you plan on buying anyhow?

Entry level new car
Just like you could buy in 1972. VW, Pinto, Corolla, Vega

$15 an hour will help students pay for college without massive debt.

That is what minimum wage should do

/----/
2018-19 Typical Expenses for Undergraduate Students at a SUNY College (as of July 2018)
Living on Campus Commuter

Tuition $4,680 $4,680
Student Fees 5 $720 $720
Room and Board $10,430

 

[dblack]

Entry level new car
Just like you could buy in 1972. VW, Pinto, Corolla, Vega

$15 an hour will help students pay for college without massive debt.

That is what minimum wage should do

But if the minimum wage has no detrimental effects, why would we stop there? If we made it $40/hr, they could pay for college with cash and get a decent Subaru.

This is a serious question. I think liberals have become desensitized to it over the years, and just blithely ignore it, but it points to a very real flaw in the reasoning. I suspect they'll just steer around it again - tell themselves it's 'crazy talk', not something they should allow themselves to think about.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

/----/ BTW, I only made minimum wage ($1.25 hour) for a month or two. I proved myself to my employer by being productive, reliable and always trying to do my best. After a year or so I was making about $2.50.

 

[rightwinger]

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

I see, so what you're telling me is that if you were a kid today making $15.00 per hour, you could easily afford to put yourself through college at 30K a year. Or perhaps a brand new car in six months. Well, I guess if you could go without food and shelter you'd be doing fine. After all, at $15.00 an hour for 40 hours a week, a half year wages would be about 12.5K. What kind of car did you plan on buying anyhow?

Entry level new car
Just like you could buy in 1972. VW, Pinto, Corolla, Vega

$15 an hour will help students pay for college without massive debt.

That is what minimum wage should do

But if the minimum wage has no detrimental effects, why would we stop there? If we made it $40/hr, they could pay for college with cash and get a decent Subaru.

Minimum wage does have detrimental effects
Those struggling to start life or raise a family have to go into debt or go on public assistance. Employers exploit the system for increased profits

 

[rightwinger]

I paid for college making $2.10 an hour summer jobs.
Price of college has escalated while minimum wage has not

/——-/ I found a tuition bill from SUNY dated 1971. . A 3 credit course was $35 and I bought used text books for $8. I made about $25 a day and $60 for two nights bartending. Mug of cheap swill beer (Piels) was 50 cents with free peanuts. Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end....

I went to SUNY Buffalo starting in 1974. My tuition for my first year was $650 (32 credits). I received a Regents Scholarship for $210 a year. We drank Genny Cream for 35 cents and chicken wings were 50 for $5.

I would work summers at $2.10 an hour and that would pay my tuition and books for the next year. My parents paid for my dorm room that was about $375 a year.

Minimum wage used to pay for basics to get started in life. Now, students go deep into debt for the same education

So is that the fault of minimum wage or the colleges charging way too much?

Despite their extreme liberal bias, they have taken advantage of supply and demand. When you went to college, only fraction of your class was able or wanted to go. Today over half or more of a graduating class ends up in college.

College doesn't have to draw students to their school like years before. They will come in flocks no matter what.

It’s the fault of minimum wage

For that $2.10 an hour I could buy a brand new car working six months. That $2.10 would buy me seven gallons of gas

It would take $15 to match the buying power I had at $2.10

/----/ BTW, I only made minimum wage ($1.25 hour) for a month or two. I proved myself to my employer by being productive, reliable and always trying to do my best. After a year or so I was making about $2.50.

i was only working a few months and then would then quit to go back to school. Next summer was like starting all over