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Rather libertarian, Jefferson was, I would say. Not only did he reduce the size of the Executive branch after the Federalists had expanded it, but he even reduced the size of the military, and the Americans were still able to defeat Muslim predation in the Barbary Wars under his leadership.LOL you know whats funny is you ignorantly think Jefferson made a more intrusive government because he grew the country.... No he didnt. But some of his long held ideals of isolationism was proved wrong. He adapted. Where as regressives like you cant adapt. You would have to first realize your are wrong.Yes he was. he exponentially grew the size of government....Once more for you young ... There was no magical switch. Conservatism has ALWAYS been pro individual and liberty and regessivism has ALWAYS been pro big government and slavery.Nope. That was what we today call "conservatism" where the individual took precedence over the State.
Conservatives today were the Jeffersonian Liberals of the late 18th century.
Jefferson was a big government kinda guy in that day.
You comment about liberals being FOR slavery is straight INSANE.
That's right. Now you go ahead and tell me this country would be better off without founding progressives like Jefferson.
All of them.Biggest threat. Liberalism is inevitably pushed aside by radicalism, radicalism has to surrender to socialism, and socialism will never be able to resist communism.On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the biggest threat & 1 being no threat, where do you place liberalism in America?
Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.
What country ever went from socialism to Communism?
If that was remotely true the middle east wouldn't be a shit while it would be more like IsraelTell me does America have a Superior culture?Oh I know you will lie about your feelings on it.... It is your ignorant all is equal mentality. Reality isnt a utopian ideal.I am sure you are very much hoping for it because you like many All regressives hate this country. You ignorantly think that because we are so well off we had to steal it from countries with shity cultures.
Now you are just making sht up, I believe nothing of the sort.
How embarrassing.
You don't know shit idiot.
Overall, yes. It is a big influence all over the world.
Tell me does America have a Superior culture?Oh I know you will lie about your feelings on it.... It is your ignorant all is equal mentality. Reality isnt a utopian ideal.I am sure you are very much hoping for it because you like many All regressives hate this country. You ignorantly think that because we are so well off we had to steal it from countries with shity cultures.Sure sure, any day now.
Now you are just making sht up, I believe nothing of the sort.
How embarrassing.
Jefferson didnt think the country needed a army at all.... He was proven wrong and adapted to it. Regressives cant do the same.Rather libertarian, Jefferson was, I would say. Not only did he reduce the size of the Executive branch after the Federalists had expanded it, but he even reduced the size of the military, and the Americans were still able to defeat Muslim predation in the Barbary Wars under his leadership.LOL you know whats funny is you ignorantly think Jefferson made a more intrusive government because he grew the country.... No he didnt. But some of his long held ideals of isolationism was proved wrong. He adapted. Where as regressives like you cant adapt. You would have to first realize your are wrong.Yes he was. he exponentially grew the size of government....Once more for you young ... There was no magical switch. Conservatism has ALWAYS been pro individual and liberty and regessivism has ALWAYS been pro big government and slavery.
Jefferson was a big government kinda guy in that day.
You comment about liberals being FOR slavery is straight INSANE.
That's right. Now you go ahead and tell me this country would be better off without founding progressives like Jefferson.
I agree; Libertarians are not strict isolationists.
I don't see a difference between the two anymore.Liberalism, 0.
Progressivism, 8.
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Definitions change. Progressivism and liberalism are the same.I don't see a difference between the two anymore.Liberalism, 0.
Progressivism, 8.
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You want to defend socialism, Google it for yourself.All of them.Biggest threat. Liberalism is inevitably pushed aside by radicalism, radicalism has to surrender to socialism, and socialism will never be able to resist communism.On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the biggest threat & 1 being no threat, where do you place liberalism in America?
Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.
What country ever went from socialism to Communism?
Name them then and show how it occurred.
That wasn't liberalism. Liberalism is "all men should have equal outcomes" and the state is in place to make sure of it.Some of that dangerous, radical liberal enlightenment that's been ruining this country since inception: "All men are created equal"
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the biggest threat & 1 being no threat, where do you place liberalism in America?
Never heard that one before. You have a source?Jefferson didnt think the country needed a army at all....
I haven't heard that before, either. Although many Americans of that era opposed a standing army.Never heard that one before. You have a source?Jefferson didnt think the country needed a army at all....
His own writings. He thought the militia was all it needed.Never heard that one before. You have a source?Jefferson didnt think the country needed a army at all....
Sort of like all behaviors should have equal outcomes, lol.That wasn't liberalism. Liberalism is "all men should have equal outcomes" and the state is in place to make sure of it.Some of that dangerous, radical liberal enlightenment that's been ruining this country since inception: "All men are created equal"
The biggest threat is how intellectually dishonest liberalism is. It creates people who are incapable of critical analysis. They lie about everything, including the word liberal itself. Liberals are the most intolerant bunch you can run into. Look at how they are handling a democratic election. They are like spoiled brats and as such very easy to manipulate emotionally.
Soros . . . the bogeyman of the Far and Alt rights.
I have been called all of the above as well. It isn't because of our positions, it is because the IQ level on this board is low.I get accused of being a 'Liberal' all the time. Mainly for opposing Endless War and defending Civil Liberties. But i also get accused of being a Right Wing 'Nazi.' Mainly for opposing Open Borders and Globalism. I guess i lean more Libertarian these days. I'm definitely in favor of 'Small Government.' I fully support less Government interference in Citizens' lives. I can't go along with the Police State or support Perpetual War.
So for me in the end, some things that are considered 'Liberal' are ok. And some things that are considered 'Conservative' are ok. That's why i think i ended up leaning more Libertarian. I piss both the Progressives and Neocons off. They both despise me at times. And i'm good with that.
Sure.Soros . . . the bogeyman of the Far and Alt rights.
I don't think he is a bogeyman. However, he has a history of starting "revolutions" to overthrow governments.
Nothing considered liberal in this day is okay. Modern liberalism aka Progressivism is diametrically opposed to liberty and freedom. It consistently sides with the tyrants and terrorist and consistently attacks the free and good. You are a young person who unfortunately actually thinks you can be liberal and conservative at the same time. You cant. You ether support the truth or you dont. You cant have it both ways.I get accused of being a 'Liberal' all the time. Mainly for opposing Endless War and defending Civil Liberties. But i also get accused of being a Right Wing 'Nazi.' Mainly for opposing Open Borders and Globalism. I guess i lean more Libertarian these days. I'm definitely in favor of 'Small Government.' I fully support less Government interference in Citizens' lives. I can't go along with the Police State or support Perpetual War.
So for me in the end, some things that are considered 'Liberal' are ok. And some things that are considered 'Conservative' are ok. That's why i think i ended up leaning more Libertarian. I piss both the Progressives and Neocons off. They both despise me at times. And i'm good with that.
Sure.Soros . . . the bogeyman of the Far and Alt rights.
I don't think he is a bogeyman. However, he has a history of starting "revolutions" to overthrow governments.
