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I don't know if you noticed, but Israel isn't an ethnically "clean" country. About 20% of Israel's population are Arabs.But as always you do not disappoint and clearly don't let the facts confused you.
You're talking about people dispersing and dislocating however the dislocating and discussing was done during a war. Those people who talk about the ones with houses and lands and territories for fighting with a single minded purpose and that purpose was to kill the Jews. Therefore fighting to (in their own words) "drive the Jews into the sea".
I don't know if you understand anything about tactics or warfare, however it seems really basic to me that if you control a territory it would be extremely wise to dislocate the people that want to kill you who currently reside in this territory.
I don't know why you so fixed about them map thing? There is no map of sovereign Israel in 1915. However there is also no map of sovereign Palestine in 1915.
Actually there is no map of sovereign Palestine from anytime in history, this is due the fact that a sovereign Palestine never existed. No amount of maps or lack there of would disprove this fact.
So basically, what happens in war is war, too bad? Then why are the (mostly) Jews getting all their paintings back that were taken from them during WWII?
As for the map, I never claimed that palestine has existed for 3000 years like some people here claim about Israel.
No one has claimed that Israel exists for 3000 years continuously. Israel has existed 3000 years ago.
One very clear distinction about the Jews during World War II is that the Jews were not fighting the Germans. The Jews did not try to drive the Germans out.
The Germans and Russians were fighting each other, you think that the Germans got Back the property Russians looted when they conquered Berlin?
Why do you think that area is referred to as, the "occupied territories"? Even the Israeli Supreme Court refers to it as such. And there is only one way to solve an "occupation" and that is to end it.I would like to see you prove that.
Where do you get your information? And how do you know what all countries in the world have to say about it?
Israel is in violation of over 60 UN resolutions and not one of them supports Israel's claim to that land. Find me one country that has recognized that land as Israels.It is unlawful under the Fourth Geneva Convention for an occupying power to transfer parts of its own population into the territory it occupies. This means that international humanitarian law prohibits the establishment of settlements, as these are a form of population transfer into occupied territory. Any measure designed to expand or consolidate settlements is also illegal. Confiscation of land to build or expand settlements is similarly prohibited.
You are absolutely delusional.Incorrect.
Israel has indeed existed for 3000 years, though, occupied for many of those years.
Egypt was occupied for 1,000 years by the Greeks and Romans and, guess what, there is still an Egypt.
Jews are the ONLY nation EVER established in Israel for the past 3 millenia to today.
You are absolutely delusional.Incorrect.
Israel has indeed existed for 3000 years, though, occupied for many of those years.
Egypt was occupied for 1,000 years by the Greeks and Romans and, guess what, there is still an Egypt.
Jews are the ONLY nation EVER established in Israel for the past 3 millenia to today.
It doesn't matter how many times you say it, it won't come true.
I find your narcissism disgusting!
It would seem that I was wrong, and someone does claim that he said it was in existence for 3000 years.
I however don't hold such opinion. I believe that the biblical kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians in about 720 B.C.E. and thus ceased to exist.
Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I believe I stated it's before, but I would say so again: Israel's right for existence has nothing to do with the biblical Kingdom of Israel.
None of the Zionists who immigrated to Israel before its inception claimed that they somehow "deserve" Israel. They worked hard to achieve what we have today and none of it was given due to "ancestral rights".
Why do you think that area is referred to as, the "occupied territories"? Even the Israeli Supreme Court refers to it as such. And there is only one way to solve an "occupation" and that is to end it.I would like to see you prove that.
Where do you get your information? And how do you know what all countries in the world have to say about it?
Israel is in violation of over 60 UN resolutions and not one of them supports Israel's claim to that land. Find me one country that has recognized that land as Israels.It is unlawful under the Fourth Geneva Convention for an occupying power to transfer parts of its own population into the territory it occupies. This means that international humanitarian law prohibits the establishment of settlements, as these are a form of population transfer into occupied territory. Any measure designed to expand or consolidate settlements is also illegal. Confiscation of land to build or expand settlements is similarly prohibited.
I think this whole "right to exist" issue is a moot point. They exist. They're there. And they're not going anywhere. It's a done deal. There's really no reason to talk about that anymore.It would seem that I was wrong, and someone does claim that he said it was in existence for 3000 years.
I however don't hold such opinion. I believe that the biblical kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians in about 720 B.C.E. and thus ceased to exist.
Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I believe I stated it's before, but I would say so again: Israel's right for existence has nothing to do with the biblical Kingdom of Israel.
None of the Zionists who immigrated to Israel before its inception claimed that they somehow "deserve" Israel. They worked hard to achieve what we have today and none of it was given due to "ancestral rights".
Why do you think that area is referred to as, the "occupied territories"? Even the Israeli Supreme Court refers to it as such. And there is only one way to solve an "occupation" and that is to end it.I would like to see you prove that.
Where do you get your information? And how do you know what all countries in the world have to say about it?
Israel is in violation of over 60 UN resolutions and not one of them supports Israel's claim to that land. Find me one country that has recognized that land as Israels.It is unlawful under the Fourth Geneva Convention for an occupying power to transfer parts of its own population into the territory it occupies. This means that international humanitarian law prohibits the establishment of settlements, as these are a form of population transfer into occupied territory. Any measure designed to expand or consolidate settlements is also illegal. Confiscation of land to build or expand settlements is similarly prohibited.
oh, you are talking about the Palestinian territories.
I thought you were talking about the whole territory which is Israel.
Apologies.
Well on that issue,First of all the Gaza Strip is NOT occupied since 2008 I think.
Second the so-called occupation would have ended a long time ago if the agenda of the people who reside in the Palestinian territories would not have been the total annihilation of Israel.
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."
The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
Israel controls everything going in to (and out of) Gaza. It is considered a "belligerant occupation". Palestinian's do not want to annihilate Israel, that is a myth. Israeli's are the "occupiers", which means they're the aggressors. And aggressors are not victims. If Israel really wanted peace, they wouldn't have broken the ceasefire.oh, you are talking about the Palestinian territories.
I thought you were talking about the whole territory which is Israel.
Apologies.
Well on that issue,First of all the Gaza Strip is NOT occupied since 2008 I think.
Second the so-called occupation would have ended a long time ago if the agenda of the people who reside in the Palestinian territories would not have been the total annihilation of Israel.
At least you're now in the right area of history, but there was actually 4 Mandates, with Israel's being one of them. Trans-Jordan being another, that was NOT GIVEN to the jews.There are no "palestinian" territories. Did you read this in wikipedia, too?
Eugene Rostow, Legal Scholar, former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State in the Johnson administration, US State Dept Legal Advisor, Drafter of UN Res. 242 pertaining to Israeli land in the West Bank...
At least you're now in the right area of history, but there was actually 4 Mandates, with Israel's being one of them. Trans-Jordan being another, that was NOT GIVEN to the jews.There are no "palestinian" territories. Did you read this in wikipedia, too?
Eugene Rostow, Legal Scholar, former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State in the Johnson administration, US State Dept Legal Advisor, Drafter of UN Res. 242 pertaining to Israeli land in the West Bank...
Israel controls everything going in to (and out of) Gaza. It is considered a "belligerant occupation". Palestinian's do not want to annihilate Israel, that is a myth. Israeli's are the "occupiers", which means they're the aggressors. And aggressors are not victims. If Israel really wanted peace, they wouldn't have broken the ceasefire.oh, you are talking about the Palestinian territories.
I thought you were talking about the whole territory which is Israel.
Apologies.
Well on that issue,First of all the Gaza Strip is NOT occupied since 2008 I think.
Second the so-called occupation would have ended a long time ago if the agenda of the people who reside in the Palestinian territories would not have been the total annihilation of Israel.
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Article 6 Hamas is uniquely Palestinian,[20] and "strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine"[12][17]
- Article 8 The Hamas document reiterates the Muslim Brotherhood's slogan of "Allah is its goal, the Prophet is the model, the Qur'an its constitution, jihad its path, and death for the sake of Allah its most sublime belief."[12][17]
- Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.[17]
- Article 14 The liberation of Palestine is the personal duty of every Palestinian.[17]
If Israel really wanted peace, they wouldn't have broken the ceasefire
Of course! They just want to plunder it bare and, as a bonus, murder jews here and there. What would be palistanians plundering, if Israel were annihilated?!Palestinian's do not want to annihilate Israel, that is a myth.
Oh shut-up you little bitchy troll!Of course! They just want to plunder it bare and, as a bonus, murder jews here and there. What would be palistanians plundering, if Israel were annihilated?!Palestinian's do not want to annihilate Israel, that is a myth.
Oh shut-up you little bitchy troll!Of course! They just want to plunder it bare and, as a bonus, murder jews here and there. What would be palistanians plundering, if Israel were annihilated?!Palestinian's do not want to annihilate Israel, that is a myth.
I bet you'd be a tossed salad in prison?
You didn't hear about the Israeli's attacking humanitarian ships in international waters off the coast of Gaza?I would really like to know where you get your information from.
Israel controls what ever comes in and goes out of Gaza through Israel, and that's their right.
The Egyptian border is wide open and Palestinians move whatever they want over there.
Gaza is one big open air prison, because of the Israeli's.Israel ended its occupation of Gaza in 2008, and got thousands of rockets on its cities as a response.
The rockets stopped for 4 months, then Israel launched a raid into Gaza killing a couple of it's leaders. Then rockets attacks went back up. Palestinian's do have a right to defend themselves, as long as they attack military targets.What cease-fire?
What cease-fire agreement do you think Israel broken?
During the last year maybe more there is a constant lunch of rockets into Israeli territory.
You need to prove I'm illiterate, before you start acting like I am.Shouldn't you be trying to improve your level of literacy rather than posting on a messageboard? http://www.usmessageboard.com/5141405-post489.html
Wrong. Trans-Jordan was a completely different Mandate and it was for the arabs, not Israel.Trans-Jordan was part of the original mandate for Israel. The British exercised the option to give it to the hashemites from the hejaz for their support of the War.
Now, you know
Wrong. Trans-Jordan was a completely different Mandate and it was for the arabs, not Israel.Trans-Jordan was part of the original mandate for Israel. The British exercised the option to give it to the hashemites from the hejaz for their support of the War.
Now, you know
