How Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?

[bodecea]

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Very interesting.

 

[sealybobo]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Trump had 4 years to do something, yet he lets the election be stolen from him. He got out-Trumped.

That may be, but it has to be stopped in the future if democracy is going to survive.

Democracy will never survive with people who lose and can't take it....

Actually, democracy (not that we have one) will survive if the institutions ensure that personal reactions to loss don't carry over into defiance of the law. IOW, it doesn't matter how mad TRUMP! gets, he's going to leave office in January because if he doesn't he gets taken out the moment the inauguration happens. And he knows that. Only if he's allowed to stay would democracy not survive. It didn't matter how mad Hillary got, how drunk she got, how many of her sycophants claimed for 4 years that TRUMP! wasn't legitimate, wasn't THEIR president, blah, blah, blah, he was President and will always be called Mr. President. As long as those institutions stand, so will democracy. Now, as to stealing elections, we need to make every effort to ensure all legitimate and only legitimate votes are counted. I personally like the idea of getting a paper receipt with a QR code that I can scan, go online with and verify that my vote was counted correctly. It wouldn't solve all the problems but would at least give voters some assurance that their vote was not tossed.

He will always be Known as Mr one term got impeached president who embarrassed himself on the way out.

Nope, he'll be Mr. President. 20 years from now kids will be looking at you wondering how you can hold so much hate for someone you've never met.

Mr. Impeached, One Term, president that tried to destroy the electoral system in our country.

How did Trump try to destroy electoral system in our country? You mean by contesting a swindle?

He used Putin tactics to pressure even Republican state legislatures to overturn the vote of the people. HE LOST GEORGIA! THINK ABOUT IT......GEORGIA.....WHAT A LOSER!

And he is still threatening people to lie for him. trump IS A LOSER!

Pursuing legal remedies is "using Putin tactics?"

You Trump-hating morons are the ultimate douchebags. He didn't lose GA if you only count legal votes.

What illegal votes were counted?

Also don’t forget trump purposely slowed up the mail hoping he’d get to throw out votes that arrived late. Sorry cheater, that’s not gonna fly

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Nonsense, 5 states are 100% mail in including the bright red state of Utah. Audits have been conducted in every election. In 2016, my state of Oregon got TWO convictions of people voting twice.

Two convictions in a state of millions?
That only proves Oregon is not trying to do away with fraud in a state that is dominated by several large coastal cities. Mandated mail in voting works for the left.

Whatever you try to claim about mail in voting no chain of custody can be established or controlled in vote by mail. Ballots go through too many hands.

Voter i.d.s and paper ballots are the only secure way to go but of course democrats do not want that.
How can people cheat if we do that?

 

[bripat9643]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

This election was not stolen.

Donald Trump couldn't stand the fact the only reason he is President in the first place is that he got leg up by Putin.

This election was supposed to show Trump could make it on his own, especially with the huge advantage of being the incumbent.

That's why Trump is whining. He knows he does not belong in the office, and never did. His ego is shattered.

One term president. I’ve seen 3 in my lifetime. Two were republicans.

Carter would have been re elected but Reagan’s vp was head of th3 cia and he got Iran to hold onto the hostages until after the election. Then years later the Iran contra affair where bush and Reagan had to reward Iran for their help.

Conspiracy theories abound.

Carter lost because he sucked.

Bush lost because of Perot. And because of his welching on "read my lips, no new taxes".

Trump lost because of Trump.

I dont know how you can look at all the facts and not believe jeb and Catherine Harris rigged florida.

So fucking obvious. In fact it was so obvious even Fox News called it for gore. Then suddenly, mysteriously Carl rove said wait a minute, as if he knew something was coming.

Hacked diebold voting machines.

For god sakes Catherine Harris changed the paper ballots to a thinner paper knowing it would result in hang8ng chads.

All of you listen. The Supreme Court knew its they looked closer we’d see Florida was stolen. So they stopped the recount and gave it to bush. I truly believe they were deep state republicans. Bush had to win. He had already planned out with panic his invasion of Iraq long before 2000.

They threw away democratic votes and stuffed ballots with dead republican votes.

Republicans are so sure it happened this year because they know they did all these things in 2000. Then ken Blackwell stole Ohio in 2004

You got your facts wrong, moron. For one thing, your sequence of events is wrong. The election was originally called for Bush, an Biden was going to concede. Then some Dim election fraudsters talked him out of it. No Democrats votes were "thrown away."

You account of the events is totally fictional.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We will never be able to stop thievery in elections as long as the filthy ass Democrat Dirty Tricks Department controls the voting precincts in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes.

They will always be able to produce the votes necessary and never be held accountable.

These filthy ass Democrats are like all Marxists assholes. They feel they have the right to lie, cheat and steal to further the agenda of Socialism. They feel it is their duty to humainty to get free stuff or something to do whatever is necessary.

However, we Americans are just as guilty as those butt pirates are if we let them get away with destroying our Republic.

Our Founding Fathers knew politicians will fail the Republic and that is why we have a Second Amendment. If we don't use the tool they gave us to correct oppression then we are just as guilty as the oppressors.

Like the man said "a Republic if you can keep it".

After the massive thievery last month by the despicable Democrat Party and nothing is being done it looks like we don't want to keep it, doesn't it?

Establish Block Chain voting in all 50 states and you'll never have a fraudulent vote again.

We merely need to decide that we WANT honest and fair elections. We have the technology, we just need to decide that we want election integrity.

 

[bripat9643]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Trump had 4 years to do something, yet he lets the election be stolen from him. He got out-Trumped.

That may be, but it has to be stopped in the future if democracy is going to survive.

Democracy will never survive with people who lose and can't take it....

Actually, democracy (not that we have one) will survive if the institutions ensure that personal reactions to loss don't carry over into defiance of the law. IOW, it doesn't matter how mad TRUMP! gets, he's going to leave office in January because if he doesn't he gets taken out the moment the inauguration happens. And he knows that. Only if he's allowed to stay would democracy not survive. It didn't matter how mad Hillary got, how drunk she got, how many of her sycophants claimed for 4 years that TRUMP! wasn't legitimate, wasn't THEIR president, blah, blah, blah, he was President and will always be called Mr. President. As long as those institutions stand, so will democracy. Now, as to stealing elections, we need to make every effort to ensure all legitimate and only legitimate votes are counted. I personally like the idea of getting a paper receipt with a QR code that I can scan, go online with and verify that my vote was counted correctly. It wouldn't solve all the problems but would at least give voters some assurance that their vote was not tossed.

He will always be Known as Mr one term got impeached president who embarrassed himself on the way out.

Nope, he'll be Mr. President. 20 years from now kids will be looking at you wondering how you can hold so much hate for someone you've never met.

Mr. Impeached, One Term, president that tried to destroy the electoral system in our country.

How did Trump try to destroy electoral system in our country? You mean by contesting a swindle?

He used Putin tactics to pressure even Republican state legislatures to overturn the vote of the people. HE LOST GEORGIA! THINK ABOUT IT......GEORGIA.....WHAT A LOSER!

And he is still threatening people to lie for him. trump IS A LOSER!

Pursuing legal remedies is "using Putin tactics?"

You Trump-hating morons are the ultimate douchebags. He didn't lose GA if you only count legal votes.

What illegal votes were counted?

Also don’t forget trump purposely slowed up the mail hoping he’d get to throw out votes that arrived late. Sorry cheater, that’s not gonna fly

This has been explained to you morons 1000 times already.

 

[Moonglow]

People voted by mail and Trump lost so no one gets to vote by mail anymore.

Pretty much the equivalent of taking your ball and going home.

The dead and illegal aliens voted by the millions, and democrats voted multiple times.

This was the most corrupt election in American history. Boss Tweed is rolling in his grave with envy.

9/11 pails in comparison at the degree of unforeseen cooperation in an act that was so covert it was overt and passed by the eyes of millions...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

The only reason you on the left like mail-in is because it makes fraud harder to detect and it gets more lazy worthless people who don't know a thing about politics to vote. Worthless lazy people who don't know much about politics generally vote Democrat.

Nonsense, 5 states are 100% mail in including the bright red state of Utah. Audits have been conducted in every election. In 2016, my state of Oregon got TWO convictions of people voting twice.

Depends on the state and how they verify votes. Still, nothing is more secure than in person voting. If you're too lazy or don't care enough to go vote, those people should stay home. Our Constitution guarantees the right to vote, but not to deliver a ballot to your door. Every voter should have a legitimate ID, and vote in person unless they have a good enough reason that it was impossible for them to get to the polls.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Establish Block Chain voting in all 50 states and you'll never have a fraudulent vote again.

We merely need to decide that we WANT honest and fair elections. We have the technology, we just need to decide that we want election integrity.

Most people don't know what "block chain" is. That's a tough sell telling people they should go to a system
they don't even understand.

 

[22lcidw]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Trump had 4 years to do something, yet he lets the election be stolen from him. He got out-Trumped.

That may be, but it has to be stopped in the future if democracy is going to survive.

Democracy will never survive with people who lose and can't take it....

Actually, democracy (not that we have one) will survive if the institutions ensure that personal reactions to loss don't carry over into defiance of the law. IOW, it doesn't matter how mad TRUMP! gets, he's going to leave office in January because if he doesn't he gets taken out the moment the inauguration happens. And he knows that. Only if he's allowed to stay would democracy not survive. It didn't matter how mad Hillary got, how drunk she got, how many of her sycophants claimed for 4 years that TRUMP! wasn't legitimate, wasn't THEIR president, blah, blah, blah, he was President and will always be called Mr. President. As long as those institutions stand, so will democracy. Now, as to stealing elections, we need to make every effort to ensure all legitimate and only legitimate votes are counted. I personally like the idea of getting a paper receipt with a QR code that I can scan, go online with and verify that my vote was counted correctly. It wouldn't solve all the problems but would at least give voters some assurance that their vote was not tossed.

He will always be Known as Mr one term got impeached president who embarrassed himself on the way out.

Nope, he'll be Mr. President. 20 years from now kids will be looking at you wondering how you can hold so much hate for someone you've never met.

Mr. Impeached, One Term, president that tried to destroy the electoral system in our country.

How did Trump try to destroy electoral system in our country? You mean by contesting a swindle?

He used Putin tactics to pressure even Republican state legislatures to overturn the vote of the people. HE LOST GEORGIA! THINK ABOUT IT......GEORGIA.....WHAT A LOSER!

And he is still threatening people to lie for him. trump IS A LOSER!

Pursuing legal remedies is "using Putin tactics?"

You Trump-hating morons are the ultimate douchebags. He didn't lose GA if you only count legal votes.

What illegal votes were counted?

Also don’t forget trump purposely slowed up the mail hoping he’d get to throw out votes that arrived late. Sorry cheater, that’s not gonna fly

Don Lemon is more important the a 22 year old married hetero female having a baby. That is why we are in massive decline.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hey, should the Covid ID cards be used as Voter ID cards?

 

[Slade3200]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Why don’t you think any court including a trump loaded scotus agrees with your assessment that the election was obviously stolen?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If he wanted more of that group to support him, he probably shouldn't have called them enemies of the country and fake news..

So that's what you think our media should be about, retaliation and revenge? Gee, isn't the media supposed to be about reporting facts?

They were attacking Trump before he even got near the White House.

 

[Mac1958]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Why don’t you think any court including a trump loaded scotus agrees with your assessment that the election was obviously stolen?

The excuses I'm seeing so far are either (a) they've gone commie, or (b) they're too scared.

Pathetic, yes. Funny, yes. This is almost over.

 

[Crepitus]

How Can We Stop Future Stolen Elections?

Just like we stopped this one. Honesty and integrity in the he officials and workers involved in the process.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Depends on the state and how they verify votes. Still, nothing is more secure than in person voting. If you're too lazy or don't care enough to go vote, those people should stay home. Our Constitution guarantees the right to vote, but not to deliver a ballot to your door. Every voter should have a legitimate ID, and vote in person unless they have a good enough reason that it was impossible for them to get to the polls.

Declare a national voting day so everyone has access. Open polls before that day to make certain everyone
has a shot. Voter i.d.s should be mandatory.

 

[bripat9643]

This is obviously a very serious problem. My only hope is SCOTUS in that a national standard has to be set including voter ID and verifiable paper ballots while precluding the very apparent problem of mail-in ballots and their harvesting which goes far beyond traditional grass roots politics.

Why don’t you think any court including a trump loaded scotus agrees with your assessment that the election was obviously stolen?

Because they are scared that they will be dozed and then thousands of Trump-hater will show up in front of the door and chant all night and throw rocks and bottles. Then their children will be hounded at school and the Dims will pack the courts.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There will be no more free and fair elections in this country until the war is over and the issue settled in blood.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Establish Block Chain voting in all 50 states and you'll never have a fraudulent vote again.

We merely need to decide that we WANT honest and fair elections. We have the technology, we just need to decide that we want election integrity.

Most people don't know what "block chain" is. That's a tough sell telling people they should go to a system
they don't even understand.

People didn't know that wearing a mask would defeat Covid either

 

[DrLove]

You guys want voter ids so poor people won’t get them and vote. I say mail in votes are the way in the future. If it was good enough for trump then it’s good enough for the rest of us.

The only reason you on the left like mail-in is because it makes fraud harder to detect and it gets more lazy worthless people who don't know a thing about politics to vote. Worthless lazy people who don't know much about politics generally vote Democrat.

Nonsense, 5 states are 100% mail in including the bright red state of Utah. Audits have been conducted in every election. In 2016, my state of Oregon got TWO convictions of people voting twice.

Depends on the state and how they verify votes. Still, nothing is more secure than in person voting. If you're too lazy or don't care enough to go vote, those people should stay home. Our Constitution guarantees the right to vote, but not to deliver a ballot to your door. Every voter should have a legitimate ID, and vote in person unless they have a good enough reason that it was impossible for them to get to the polls.

Sorry, Oregon auto-registered me to vote by mail when I got a driver's license. To get that license I had to present my Idaho DL, my birth certificate, a property tax bill and other mail, safety check on my vehicle and then pass a fairly difficult test that I studied like hell for online and barely passed.

If you move to Oregon and you don't drive, then you still have to get a state issued ID and go through the same rigamarole to prove you are who you say you are.

Doesn't get much safer than that and EVERY state should do the same!