How did Birth Control become a right?

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

Ask the guys who take viagra. They know.

Does Health Insurance Cover Viagra?

I didn’t know that. You mean the government is forcing employers to provide Viagra too?


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[Doc1]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Nope.

 

[Doc1]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Interestingly it pays for Testosterone replacement but not enhancement drugs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

When our population became 353 million. When it hits 400 maybe birth control will become a requirement

Then we have to do something to slow that down. Maybe close off the borders entirely???


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[LordBrownTrout]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

Who gave anyone the right to decide, especially when life begins when the sperm fertilizes the egg.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

it's called stopping the freebie mobile.

Not sure what that means, but wouldn't it be better to freely distribute contraceptives so that employees don't have so many unplanned pregnancies, and wouldn't that be better for the company's bottom line?

That would be fine as long as it's the employer who makes that decision and not the government.

What do you have against birth control? Health plans cover lots of things, why not bc?

I have nothing against that. I have nothing against anybody owning their own car either, but I don't think it's the responsibility of the employer to provide that car.

The cost of birth control to a company is thousands of times smaller than what a pregnant, possibly single mother would. So looking at their bottom line, it makes sense to include this in your health plan. Those who object because of some make believe invisible guy in the sky are fucking retards, and their opinions should be discarded out of hand.

And that’s fine, provided it’s the employer who makes that call and not the federal government.


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[Care4all]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Interestingly it pays for Testosterone replacement but not enhancement drugs.

it may not be ACA mandatory but the insurance companies cover it on their own or rather, at the group policy holders' expense in most policies.

 

[Penelope]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

Who gave anyone the right to decide, especially when life begins when the sperm fertilizes the egg.

Who gave anyone the right to decide when a embryo is viable?

 

[jc456]

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

the laws of humankind that when an egg is fertilized by a sperm a life begins. if it didn't, then women wouldn't be pregnant right? What is a pregnancy?

Not if one takes BC or has an IUD. Vasectomies should be outlawed, how about that. War if off of coal and back on women.

huh? holy crap, LOL. what the fk was this post about?

 

[jc456]

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

Who gave anyone the right to decide, especially when life begins when the sperm fertilizes the egg.

Who gave anyone the right to decide when a embryo is viable?

huh? if it is growing, it is alive right? so isn't it viable if that occurs? sweetie, you have some true issues.

 

[jc456]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Interestingly it pays for Testosterone replacement but not enhancement drugs.

it may not be ACA mandatory but the insurance companies cover it on their own or rather, at the group policy holders' expense in most policies.

yep, everyone else pays for it. true libturd normalcy.

 

[Doc1]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Interestingly it pays for Testosterone replacement but not enhancement drugs.

it may not be ACA mandatory but the insurance companies cover it on their own or rather, at the group policy holders' expense in most policies.

I have BCBS Group plan, it isn't covered.

 

[jc456]

I guess having babies is a right, and the more the merrier. Make sure you give them proper medical care. You don't want to pay for BC , and are closing PP and stopping abortions, expect more mouths to feed and diaper.

Please refer to my new thread. Evangelicals never gave a hoot about abortion or Roe v. Wade till they

fine, then we get to define the medical care. K?

 

[jc456]

How did Viagra become a right?

How did any medications become a right?

How did your annual physical become a right?

How did a pap smear become a right?


Nothing became a "right", we are talking about health care insurance coverage....

And women want birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans and insurance companies are willing to give the coverage at no cost to your employer....

BECAUSE it costs insurance companies less in the long run than the unwanted or wanted pregnancy would.

The ACA doesn't pay for Viagra.

Yes it does...?

Interestingly it pays for Testosterone replacement but not enhancement drugs.

it may not be ACA mandatory but the insurance companies cover it on their own or rather, at the group policy holders' expense in most policies.

I have BCBS Group plan, it isn't covered.

mine either. I have BCBS.

 

[Penelope]

I guess having babies is a right, and the more the merrier. Make sure you give them proper medical care. You don't want to pay for BC , and are closing PP and stopping abortions, expect more mouths to feed and diaper.

Please refer to my new thread. Evangelicals never gave a hoot about abortion or Roe v. Wade till they

fine, then we get to define the medical care. K?

You mean lack of medical care , they already defunded Chip.

 

[jc456]

I guess having babies is a right, and the more the merrier. Make sure you give them proper medical care. You don't want to pay for BC , and are closing PP and stopping abortions, expect more mouths to feed and diaper.

Please refer to my new thread. Evangelicals never gave a hoot about abortion or Roe v. Wade till they

fine, then we get to define the medical care. K?

You mean lack of medical care , they already defunded Chip.

how you figure, they get our money. sorry darling you're not all together today. you aren't making sense at all.

 

[Taz]

Not sure what that means, but wouldn't it be better to freely distribute contraceptives so that employees don't have so many unplanned pregnancies, and wouldn't that be better for the company's bottom line?

That would be fine as long as it's the employer who makes that decision and not the government.

What do you have against birth control? Health plans cover lots of things, why not bc?

I have nothing against that. I have nothing against anybody owning their own car either, but I don't think it's the responsibility of the employer to provide that car.

The cost of birth control to a company is thousands of times smaller than what a pregnant, possibly single mother would. So looking at their bottom line, it makes sense to include this in your health plan. Those who object because of some make believe invisible guy in the sky are fucking retards, and their opinions should be discarded out of hand.

And that’s fine, provided it’s the employer who makes that call and not the federal government.


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The Feds are a backstop for when retards refuse, for example, to do the right thing because of some kooky belief that an invisible alien will disapprove of them if they do.

 

[KGB]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

all the more reason why health care & employment need to be decoupled...

 

[Reasonable]

There will be millions of women that won't get BC which mean millions of unwanted babies or more abortions.
Leave it to Trump and you halfwits to make everything worse in this country..

 

[BluesLegend]

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

Who gave anyone the right to decide, especially when life begins when the sperm fertilizes the egg.

Who gave anyone the right to decide when a embryo is viable?

Junior high biology class.