How did Birth Control become a right?

[Penelope]

A lot of people take medications that keep them alive. Where are their advocates to force everyone else to pay for that?


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Why should we pay for a 21 month old preemie who has to spend a year in neonatal ICU and ends up being mentally retarded.

Because the Republicans want it.

 

[Penelope]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

When our population became 353 million. When it hits 400 maybe birth control will become a requirement

No they will kill off the seniors. They want young and healthy to work for them. Aged and disable are no good to them.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

/----/ They can buy BC pills from Walmart RX for about $9 a month.

 

[Taz]

The gov did that is who. Sure beats having abortions. I don't want to pay for prostate checks but we do.

when they wrote the constitution , we had single shot muzzle loaders, who said everyone should carry a semi auto pistol.

Want to go back to the writing of the constitution , lets do it.

Lets do it. Lets get rid of all the social programs and trim govt across the board 80 percent. Lets do it. And by the way, we'll keep the guns.

You'll need the guns to finish off all the people dying in the streets.

 

[Fang]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Who gave the white men in the house, (the GOP) the right to decide when human life begins?

Who gave you the right to murder that life?

Answer the question, who gave white GOP men in the House the right to decide when a life is viable??

Democrats - the party of science. LOL

 

[Penelope]

A lot of people take medications that keep them alive. Where are their advocates to force everyone else to pay for that?


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Public medication plans are starting to happen more and more in the Western world. But here we're talking about employers who already have health plans who don't want to include birth control because they think their invisible friend will disapprove, as though that's the only strike they'd have against them for getting into a non-existant invisible paradise.

I hope they have lots of pg women who get paid lots of time off.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

A lot of people take medications that keep them alive. Where are their advocates to force everyone else to pay for that?


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Why should we pay for a 21 month old preemie who has to spend a year in neonatal ICU and ends up being mentally retarded.

Because the Republicans want it.

So you want to kill the mentally retarded and children in the womb. As I was saying, the left is the party of death, destruction, hate, nihilism, bigotry, prejudice, racism, and segregation.

 

[Penelope]

A lot of people take medications that keep them alive. Where are their advocates to force everyone else to pay for that?


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Why should we pay for a 21 month old preemie who has to spend a year in neonatal ICU and ends up being mentally retarded.

Because the Republicans want it.

So you want to kill the mentally retarded and children in the womb. As I was saying, the left is the party of death, destruction, hate, nihilism, bigotry, prejudice, racism, and segregation.

So you want to pay for a 21 month who spends a year in ICU and ends up being MR. That is what Pubs are saying. No abortions after 20 months, no BC coverage for ins, no PP for VD's. You idiots get crazier every day.

Care about the fetus, not so much when its born. Took funding for Chip away. Unbelievable.

 

[Likkmee]

Birth control became a right when Peter North taught the world it was OK to cumm outside the box !

 

[BlackSand]

And the real problem with this is that American culture says that the employer has the "right" to decide what choices are "bad" and therefore which should not be funded.

Not having children is "bad" so birth control should not be funded.

Having too many children is "bad" so medical care for children beyond two should not be funded.

Being fat is "bad" so medical care relating to obesity should not be funded.

Sexual relationships are "bad" so medical treatment relating to sexual relationships should not be funded.

Sports are "bad" so medical treatments relating to sports medicine should not be funded.


Again, why should the employer get to decide which decisions are "bad"?

It isn't a "right" the employer has ... It is the stipulations they can put on the benefit they offer.
There has been employer provided healthcare for a long time ... But it didn't become a staple in workforce offerings until around 1942.

Employers in mass started offering employer provided healthcare as a benefit after FDR established a Salary Cap.
Once the Salary Cap was established ... Employers had to find a way to compete and attract better employees.
Since they couldn't pay the employees more ... They used healthcare benefits to increase compensation.

Employer provided healthcare was never a "right" for the employee ... Nor an obligation for the employer.
To suggest the employer is required to offer an employee something that they aren't ... Is just what happens when you don't know what you are talking about.

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[francoHFW]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

/----/ They can buy BC pills from Walmart RX for about $9 a month.

But they don't and become single mothers supported by welfare for years... Great job GOP. Who cares about reality, right, dupe?

 

[francoHFW]

And the real problem with this is that American culture says that the employer has the "right" to decide what choices are "bad" and therefore which should not be funded.

Not having children is "bad" so birth control should not be funded.

Having too many children is "bad" so medical care for children beyond two should not be funded.

Being fat is "bad" so medical care relating to obesity should not be funded.

Sexual relationships are "bad" so medical treatment relating to sexual relationships should not be funded.

Sports are "bad" so medical treatments relating to sports medicine should not be funded.


Again, why should the employer get to decide which decisions are "bad"?

It isn't a "right" the employer has ... It is the stipulations they can put on the benefit they offer.
There has been employer provided healthcare for a long time ... But it didn't become a staple in workforce offerings until around 1942.

Employers in mass started offering employer provided healthcare as a benefit after FDR established a Salary Cap.
Once the Salary Cap was established ... Employers had to find a way to compete and attract better employees.
Since they couldn't pay the employees more ... They used healthcare benefits to increase compensation.

Employer provided healthcare was never a "right" for the employee ... Nor an obligation for the employer.
To suggest the employer is required to offer an employee something that they aren't ... Is just what happens when you don't know what you are talking about.

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Anything to save the greedy idiot brainwashing GOP billionaires from paying their fair share... Welcome to the 21st century...

 

[BlackSand]

Anything to save the greedy idiot brainwashing GOP billionaires from paying their fair share... Welcome to the 21st century...

FDR is who established the salary cap ... Not the GOP.
The business owners are the ones who thought of more ways to compensate employees.

So ... Your comment would be the exact opposite of what happened ...

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[francoHFW]

Anything to save the greedy idiot brainwashing GOP billionaires from paying their fair share... Welcome to the 21st century...

FDR is who established the salary cap ... Not the GOP.
The business owners are the ones who thought of more ways to compensate employees.

So ... Your comment would be the exact opposite of what happened ...

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What salary cap? Ever heard of inflation? Thank God for those business owners. Had nothing to do with unions LOL.

 

[BlackSand]

What salary cap? Ever heard of inflation? Thank God for those business owners. Had nothing to do with unions LOL.

It didn't have anything to do with Unions ... But the Revenue Act of 1942.

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[Penelope]

And the real problem with this is that American culture says that the employer has the "right" to decide what choices are "bad" and therefore which should not be funded.

Not having children is "bad" so birth control should not be funded.

Having too many children is "bad" so medical care for children beyond two should not be funded.

Being fat is "bad" so medical care relating to obesity should not be funded.

Sexual relationships are "bad" so medical treatment relating to sexual relationships should not be funded.

Sports are "bad" so medical treatments relating to sports medicine should not be funded.


Again, why should the employer get to decide which decisions are "bad"?

It isn't a "right" the employer has ... It is the stipulations they can put on the benefit they offer.
There has been employer provided healthcare for a long time ... But it didn't become a staple in workforce offerings until around 1942.

Employers in mass started offering employer provided healthcare as a benefit after FDR established a Salary Cap.
Once the Salary Cap was established ... Employers had to find a way to compete and attract better employees.
Since they couldn't pay the employees more ... They used healthcare benefits to increase compensation.

Employer provided healthcare was never a "right" for the employee ... Nor an obligation for the employer.
To suggest the employer is required to offer an employee something that they aren't ... Is just what happens when you don't know what you are talking about.

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True, and when employees quit cost sharing where are people going to get ins. From the free market with no standards, or standards set by the ins. companies. Back to can't cover pre existing conditions, back to caps, only the healthy get ins.

 

[francoHFW]

What salary cap? Ever heard of inflation? Thank God for those business owners. Had nothing to do with unions LOL.

It didn't have anything to do with Unions ... But the Revenue Act of 1942.

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What salary cap are you talking about?

 

[rightwinger]

A case in point. Some screech that Trump is Hitler. Some of the same also screech that the government should have all the guns. What is wrong with this picture?

It isn't what you are portraying it as.

Hey, guess what, in Nazi Germany, regular folks had SHITLOADS of guns. If you weren't a Jew, you could have all the fucking guns you wanted.

Guns don't stop dictators. Because the dictators have tanks and bombers and lots more guys with guns.

So the argument that we need to have Crazy Steve up there with his bumpstock shooting into a crowd because that might save us from a dictator some day is sort of retarded.

The Jews were the ones who needed the guns. I thought that was obvious.


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Can you show anywhere that private gun owners were successful against the Nazis?

France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Poland, USSR, Greece?

Any private gun owner who used them against the Nazis was executed....along with his family and neighbors

 

[BlackSand]

What salary cap are you talking about?

Look it up yourself nit-wit ...

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[francoHFW]

What salary cap are you talking about?

Look it up yourself nit-wit ...

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Look up what, idiot? Later much..