How did the Universe get here?

they will argue to the death that Energy is immortal. Go figure? :dunno:

You don't suppost that's because there is a repeatable experiment that proved it. Go figure? :dunno:

Just as there is no experiment that proves God exists, there is none that proves he/she/it doesn't.

You could say that about the Super God that created your God, and the Super Duper God that created Super God, and the Ultra Super God that created Super Duper God, and the Ultra Super Duper God that created Super Duper God. Does it seem like as weak an argument to you as it does to me?
 
If there is a higher power, how did they come into being?

This is on point as being the most often repeated question of atheists to the spiritual.

What do you mean by "being?" Spiritual things do not have physiology. There is no 'being' in a physical sense. Only physical things are physical and have to "exist" or "be created" in physical sense. This is why spiritual nature is so hard for humans to comprehend, it doesn't conform to physical nature. As humans, we often catch ourselves saying stuff like "God exists" and others can't grasp that, and perhaps, rightly so. It's a breakdown in terminology and our ability to conceptualize. "Exist" means nothing to something that is spiritual. It just IS. It didn't require creation or "come from" something. Immortality.. Everlasting.. There are people in this very thread who do not believe in an Immortal God, yet they will argue to the death that Energy is immortal. Go figure? :dunno:

Theists often state “God is outside of time”. This claim does not actually make their speculation correct. Instead, it brings with it a whole host of problems and may be immediately dismissed as being without basis and a type fallacy known as special pleading.

Special pleading (also known as stacking the deck, ignoring the counterevidence, slanting, and one-sided assessment) is a form of argument where a position in a dispute introduces favourable details or excludes unfavourable details by alleging a need to apply additional considerations without proper criticism of these considerations. Essentially, this involves someone attempting to cite something as an exception to a generally accepted rule, principle, etc. without justifying the exception.

God is not physical boss? Special Pleading. :eusa_hand:

No, special pleading is when you attempt to make God or Spiritual Nature conform to the principles of physics and physical nature. You exclude spiritual evidence by alleging a need to apply physical consideration without proper criticism of those conditions. It's generally accepted that spiritual is not physical but you insist on applying an irrational exception.
 
You don't suppost that's because there is a repeatable experiment that proved it. Go figure? :dunno:

Just as there is no experiment that proves God exists, there is none that proves he/she/it doesn't.

You could say that about the Super God that created your God, and the Super Duper God that created Super God, and the Ultra Super God that created Super Duper God, and the Ultra Super Duper God that created Super Duper God. Does it seem like as weak an argument to you as it does to me?

We've already covered this... "Create" means physically create. There is no other application of the term. You need to prove that something non-physical requires creation.

Spiritual things can't be created... like energy can't be created. :smiliehug:
 
Just as there is no experiment that proves God exists, there is none that proves he/she/it doesn't.

You could say that about the Super God that created your God, and the Super Duper God that created Super God, and the Ultra Super God that created Super Duper God, and the Ultra Super Duper God that created Super Duper God. Does it seem like as weak an argument to you as it does to me?

We've already covered this... "Create" means physically create. There is no other application of the term. You need to prove that something non-physical requires creation.

Spiritual things can't be created... like energy can't be created. :smiliehug:

Energy is not spiritual. It is a physical entity that can be measured. your claim is obviously more of your BS degree.
 
Just as there is no experiment that proves God exists, there is none that proves he/she/it doesn't.

You could say that about the Super God that created your God, and the Super Duper God that created Super God, and the Ultra Super God that created Super Duper God, and the Ultra Super Duper God that created Super Duper God. Does it seem like as weak an argument to you as it does to me?

We've already covered this... "Create" means physically create. There is no other application of the term. You need to prove that something non-physical requires creation.

Spiritual things can't be created... like energy can't be created. :smiliehug:

The pontificator pontificates again! :woohoo:

Wouldn't something non-physical like a MOOD require creation?
Why yes, yes it would.
 
Energy is not spiritual. It is a physical entity that can be measured.

If energy is immortal, prove it's not spiritual. If you do this, then explain why immortality can apply to something physical but not something spiritual?
 
Energy is not spiritual. It is a physical entity that can be measured.

If energy is immortal, prove it's not spiritual. If you do this, then explain why immortality can apply to something physical but not something spiritual?

Everytime you use the word "spiritual", you demonstrate that you don't have a clue.

Really? Because it seems I am demonstrating that YOU don't have a clue! :eusa_shifty:
 

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