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I should explain to an 11 yr old what a transition is? Have you lost your mind? I do not say any of those things. I say they are confused and leave it at that. Other kids think it’s bizarre as fuck and even creepy.If you really wished that we lived in a Lj open and understanding world then you should start with your own household. Homosexuals were characterized and discriminated against the same way trans people are now and they all still fight against a strong wave of hate in this country. You could easily explain to your children that Timmy becoming Tammy is a trans person transitioning and explain what that is. I’m afraid the way many parents explain that to their children paints that as deranged, wrong, freakish and only feeds in that child becoming bigoted and phobicThen vilify away. You cannot change human nature. If one day my kids see Timmy in a shorts and t-shirt and the next day in a dress and his name is Tammy, they will find that odd. I am not going to sit there and tell them it is "normal". Doesn't mean they have to be bigoted. But they also don't have to feed into the delusion. If I tell you I am Wonder Woman, do you have to feed into my delusion and call me Wonder Woman?I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
Gay/Straight isn't the same. That is a sexual preference. In school kids should be learning and in sports they should be competing, not worrying about sexual preference. I get your POV that you believe we should be a wide open and understanding world. But that is now how real life works. I wish it did.
Kids and adults aren’t the same. When I was 11 I did not know what gay even was. Now at 11 I have to explain trans to my daughter? Stop the madness. If you’re an adult do as you please but don’t ask me to feed into your delusions. If I told you I was Wonder Woman, would you call me Wonder Woman and feed my delusion?How is it not bigotry. Just listen to how many here are talking about trans people. That’s textbook bigotryTo leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
You should try being honest with yourself. It would be a big first step. So you don’t see it as natural that most 11 yr olds would find a trans kid creepy or odd? Come on man. You’re naive. Explains why your businesses failed.Haha, sounds like you got it all figured out!Exactly.To leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
And it is all for what is essentially a very selfish reason - they seek praise from others. That's what all this lunacy is all about as virtue signaling is simply a Pavlovian conditioned response. They say the proscribed thing, and their little mates reward them by considering them virtuous.
It really has gotten to the point where having even a scan of common sense disqualifies a person from being a Democrat.
Again... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.I should explain to an 11 yr old what a transition is? Have you lost your mind? I do not say any of those things. I say they are confused and leave it at that. Other kids think it’s bizarre as fuck and even creepy.If you really wished that we lived in a Lj open and understanding world then you should start with your own household. Homosexuals were characterized and discriminated against the same way trans people are now and they all still fight against a strong wave of hate in this country. You could easily explain to your children that Timmy becoming Tammy is a trans person transitioning and explain what that is. I’m afraid the way many parents explain that to their children paints that as deranged, wrong, freakish and only feeds in that child becoming bigoted and phobicThen vilify away. You cannot change human nature. If one day my kids see Timmy in a shorts and t-shirt and the next day in a dress and his name is Tammy, they will find that odd. I am not going to sit there and tell them it is "normal". Doesn't mean they have to be bigoted. But they also don't have to feed into the delusion. If I tell you I am Wonder Woman, do you have to feed into my delusion and call me Wonder Woman?I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
Gay/Straight isn't the same. That is a sexual preference. In school kids should be learning and in sports they should be competing, not worrying about sexual preference. I get your POV that you believe we should be a wide open and understanding world. But that is now how real life works. I wish it did.
Yes you teach your kids what is happening in the real world so they know how to react when they are exposed to it. Why is this a foreign concept to you? Would you rather the schools teach them? Because thats what's happening.Kids and adults aren’t the same. When I was 11 I did not know what gay even was. Now at 11 I have to explain trans to my daughter? Stop the madness. If you’re an adult do as you please but don’t ask me to feed into your delusions. If I told you I was Wonder Woman, would you call me Wonder Woman and feed my delusion?How is it not bigotry. Just listen to how many here are talking about trans people. That’s textbook bigotryTo leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
Yes or no?
I think its very natural that kids would find anything different than they have been exposed to as odd. Thats why I'm saying good parents teach them about these things and the appropriate whey to react. Which business of mine failed again? Can you share with the group which one failed and why? No you can't, because you no nothing about me. You're switching to troll mode like you always do when you lose control of a debate.You should try being honest with yourself. It would be a big first step. So you don’t see it as natural that most 11 yr olds would find a trans kid creepy or odd? Come on man. You’re naive. Explains why your businesses failed.Haha, sounds like you got it all figured out!Exactly.To leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
And it is all for what is essentially a very selfish reason - they seek praise from others. That's what all this lunacy is all about as virtue signaling is simply a Pavlovian conditioned response. They say the proscribed thing, and their little mates reward them by considering them virtuous.
It really has gotten to the point where having even a scan of common sense disqualifies a person from being a Democrat.
How is it not bigotry. Just listen to how many here are talking about trans people. That’s textbook bigotry
Again... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.
Whatever helps you sleep at night bubHow is it not bigotry. Just listen to how many here are talking about trans people. That’s textbook bigotry
Sane people call it “science”.
You showcase perfectly what I mean when I talk about the toxic and hateful bigotry that still runs rampant in our countryAgain... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.
What a parent should be teaching them is that there are mentally unstable people in our society no more if their children seen a guy crawling around on his knees and hands barking at people thinking he was a dog. Teach them that a man can no more be a dog than he can a woman.
Nope. Some kids are bullies. Most kids are just good kids and when they see a severe oddity, which trans is, it makes them uncomfortable at best. Again, we are discussing kids not adults. Don’t tell me what a good parent is. You have zero idea.Again... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.I should explain to an 11 yr old what a transition is? Have you lost your mind? I do not say any of those things. I say they are confused and leave it at that. Other kids think it’s bizarre as fuck and even creepy.If you really wished that we lived in a Lj open and understanding world then you should start with your own household. Homosexuals were characterized and discriminated against the same way trans people are now and they all still fight against a strong wave of hate in this country. You could easily explain to your children that Timmy becoming Tammy is a trans person transitioning and explain what that is. I’m afraid the way many parents explain that to their children paints that as deranged, wrong, freakish and only feeds in that child becoming bigoted and phobicThen vilify away. You cannot change human nature. If one day my kids see Timmy in a shorts and t-shirt and the next day in a dress and his name is Tammy, they will find that odd. I am not going to sit there and tell them it is "normal". Doesn't mean they have to be bigoted. But they also don't have to feed into the delusion. If I tell you I am Wonder Woman, do you have to feed into my delusion and call me Wonder Woman?I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
Gay/Straight isn't the same. That is a sexual preference. In school kids should be learning and in sports they should be competing, not worrying about sexual preference. I get your POV that you believe we should be a wide open and understanding world. But that is now how real life works. I wish it did.
Nope. If a boy suddenly says they are a girl, that is odd. If a boy says I am Iron Man, they will laugh. The ones that failed are the ones you abandoned to start new ones. And you are dodging my Wonder Woman question. Once again, you debate dishonesty. Par for the course for you.I think its very natural that kids would find anything different than they have been exposed to as odd. Thats why I'm saying good parents teach them about these things and the appropriate whey to react. Which business of mine failed again? Can you share with the group which one failed and why? No you can't, because you no nothing about me. You're switching to troll mode like you always do when you lose control of a debate.You should try being honest with yourself. It would be a big first step. So you don’t see it as natural that most 11 yr olds would find a trans kid creepy or odd? Come on man. You’re naive. Explains why your businesses failed.Haha, sounds like you got it all figured out!Exactly.To leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
And it is all for what is essentially a very selfish reason - they seek praise from others. That's what all this lunacy is all about as virtue signaling is simply a Pavlovian conditioned response. They say the proscribed thing, and their little mates reward them by considering them virtuous.
It really has gotten to the point where having even a scan of common sense disqualifies a person from being a Democrat.
Because they are kids. I am not going to teach an 11 yr old about sex, gender dysphoria, cancer, nuclear war and other adult types of events or happenings. Foreign concept to a leftist, I get it.Yes you teach your kids what is happening in the real world so they know how to react when they are exposed to it. Why is this a foreign concept to you? Would you rather the schools teach them? Because thats what's happening.Kids and adults aren’t the same. When I was 11 I did not know what gay even was. Now at 11 I have to explain trans to my daughter? Stop the madness. If you’re an adult do as you please but don’t ask me to feed into your delusions. If I told you I was Wonder Woman, would you call me Wonder Woman and feed my delusion?How is it not bigotry. Just listen to how many here are talking about trans people. That’s textbook bigotryTo leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
Yes or no?
You are perfect example of ignorance and illogic and you’re a dishonest debater.You showcase perfectly what I mean when I talk about the toxic and hateful bigotry that still runs rampant in our countryAgain... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.
What a parent should be teaching them is that there are mentally unstable people in our society no more if their children seen a guy crawling around on his knees and hands barking at people thinking he was a dog. Teach them that a man can no more be a dog than he can a woman.
What exactly are they uncomfortable about?Nope. Some kids are bullies. Most kids are just good kids and when they see a severe oddity, which trans is, it makes them uncomfortable at best. Again, we are discussing kids not adults. Don’t tell me what a good parent is. You have zero idea.Again... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.I should explain to an 11 yr old what a transition is? Have you lost your mind? I do not say any of those things. I say they are confused and leave it at that. Other kids think it’s bizarre as fuck and even creepy.If you really wished that we lived in a Lj open and understanding world then you should start with your own household. Homosexuals were characterized and discriminated against the same way trans people are now and they all still fight against a strong wave of hate in this country. You could easily explain to your children that Timmy becoming Tammy is a trans person transitioning and explain what that is. I’m afraid the way many parents explain that to their children paints that as deranged, wrong, freakish and only feeds in that child becoming bigoted and phobicThen vilify away. You cannot change human nature. If one day my kids see Timmy in a shorts and t-shirt and the next day in a dress and his name is Tammy, they will find that odd. I am not going to sit there and tell them it is "normal". Doesn't mean they have to be bigoted. But they also don't have to feed into the delusion. If I tell you I am Wonder Woman, do you have to feed into my delusion and call me Wonder Woman?I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
Gay/Straight isn't the same. That is a sexual preference. In school kids should be learning and in sports they should be competing, not worrying about sexual preference. I get your POV that you believe we should be a wide open and understanding world. But that is now how real life works. I wish it did.
You showcase perfectly what I mean when I talk about the toxic and hateful bigotry that still runs rampant in our countryTeach them that a man can no more be a dog than he can a woman.
You showcase perfectly what I mean when I talk about the toxic and hateful bigotry that still runs rampant in our country
There is the snide Slade3200What exactly are they uncomfortable about?Nope. Some kids are bullies. Most kids are just good kids and when they see a severe oddity, which trans is, it makes them uncomfortable at best. Again, we are discussing kids not adults. Don’t tell me what a good parent is. You have zero idea.Again... No mystery why with parents like you egging them on. Kids naturally think everything about other kids is bizarre and they bully and troll and make fun of them about the smallest things. You can be a good parent and teach them otherwise or you can fuel that fire.I should explain to an 11 yr old what a transition is? Have you lost your mind? I do not say any of those things. I say they are confused and leave it at that. Other kids think it’s bizarre as fuck and even creepy.If you really wished that we lived in a Lj open and understanding world then you should start with your own household. Homosexuals were characterized and discriminated against the same way trans people are now and they all still fight against a strong wave of hate in this country. You could easily explain to your children that Timmy becoming Tammy is a trans person transitioning and explain what that is. I’m afraid the way many parents explain that to their children paints that as deranged, wrong, freakish and only feeds in that child becoming bigoted and phobicThen vilify away. You cannot change human nature. If one day my kids see Timmy in a shorts and t-shirt and the next day in a dress and his name is Tammy, they will find that odd. I am not going to sit there and tell them it is "normal". Doesn't mean they have to be bigoted. But they also don't have to feed into the delusion. If I tell you I am Wonder Woman, do you have to feed into my delusion and call me Wonder Woman?I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
Gay/Straight isn't the same. That is a sexual preference. In school kids should be learning and in sports they should be competing, not worrying about sexual preference. I get your POV that you believe we should be a wide open and understanding world. But that is now how real life works. I wish it did.
What’s your Wonderwoman question? I didn’t see it.Nope. If a boy suddenly says they are a girl, that is odd. If a boy says I am Iron Man, they will laugh. The ones that failed are the ones you abandoned to start new ones. And you are dodging my Wonder Woman question. Once again, you debate dishonesty. Par for the course for you.I think its very natural that kids would find anything different than they have been exposed to as odd. Thats why I'm saying good parents teach them about these things and the appropriate whey to react. Which business of mine failed again? Can you share with the group which one failed and why? No you can't, because you no nothing about me. You're switching to troll mode like you always do when you lose control of a debate.You should try being honest with yourself. It would be a big first step. So you don’t see it as natural that most 11 yr olds would find a trans kid creepy or odd? Come on man. You’re naive. Explains why your businesses failed.Haha, sounds like you got it all figured out!Exactly.To leftists they want to make 99.9% uncomfortable to make the .01% comfortable and if you disagree with their lunacy they call you a bigot as Slade3200 just did and try to shame you to thinking like they do. Playbook 101.It says much about you that you characterize the man exposing his penis as the innocent one, and not the women and children towards whom he exposed it.I vilify those who label, judge, discriminate, shame and try to ostracize others whom are innocent. It’s not a holier than thou thing as much as it’s sticking up for the “little” guy thing… I do think it’s a shame if parents are teaching their kids to be bigoted against others and I think it’s even sadder then it translates to parents who can’t accept their children for who they are. Children being gay has broken up families for decades now. Thankfully parents are growing more acceptingHow holier than thou of you. Many do find this odd. I spoke to a lady who has five kids and one is trans and I asked her how it feels. Her response "It is like losing a child". It is interesting how you on the LEFT and you are on the LEFT, vilify those that think disparately from you. Kids think its weird when a biological girl or boy states they are the opposite gender. That is simple human nature. I find it odd. I believe these kids need to speak to a specialist to make sure that there are no other underlying issues. Funny how you don't see that side of the coin.Well I wonder why... Do you think the fact that their parents find these kids weird and odd might have something to do with it? Do you think that if they had parents that taught them how to be understanding and accepting of those who are different then perhaps they wouldn't be concerned about it?You missed the point of my post entirely. Not a surprise. Kids do care. My kids find these kids to be weird and odd.Confusion comes from adults when some tell kids that men can't be woman and others say that men can be women and then the kids get mixed up in these ridiculous kind of arguments that we see on message boards like this. Kids don't care, they just want to play and do their thing. Once the world can accept that Trans is a real thing and then move on to rationally find ways to integrate them into our society then it will be less confusing for children and easier to handle. Unfortunately I think we are decades away from that.The harm that creates is confusion for little kids. Tough to measure but the whole pronoun thing and such is bizarre to many. We won't see the real harm for years IMO, but soon kids who become adults and regret their decisions to transition and such will become prevalent and create a whole new set of issues IMO.Understood, which is why I’m saying sports is a valid debate to have. Olympics and other sporting events have standards to qualify people. But I’m not talking about that kind of harm. We should discuss and debate the proper time and place for trans people to play sports and use gender specific facilities. But Bobby was talking about a societal harm and that’s what the discussion was aboutBut that is real harm and yes there could be large girls but few if any are large and quick a boys can be. You also mentioned some she males or whatever. If you look at female body builders they look like men too but they are females!You’re talking about sports which I said is a valid debate… granted I’m sure there are other large and athletic girls that can check and injure other girls… but that’s a different debate and wasn’t the harm I or Bobby boy here was talking about.My daughter playing lacrosse against a biological boy who checks her and she goes flying and hurts herself...real harm. Would you like me to simplify that for you or did that suffice?What’s the real harm? Explain it to meWhy send them to a hospital, they aren’t hurting anybody.
Denying the very real harm that every sane person can clearly see is being caused by this madness does not make it go away.
If he REALLY thought he was a woman, there would be no penis to expose. It would have been removed as the obvious evidence that he wasn't.
And it is all for what is essentially a very selfish reason - they seek praise from others. That's what all this lunacy is all about as virtue signaling is simply a Pavlovian conditioned response. They say the proscribed thing, and their little mates reward them by considering them virtuous.
It really has gotten to the point where having even a scan of common sense disqualifies a person from being a Democrat.
