How do we fix obamacare?

[Granny]

I'm being serious: Get the hell rid of Obamacare.

 

[Bfgrn]

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Sure they do. You do too. I'll prove it.

Besides the mandate, which portion of the law, specifically, do you not agree with?

The mandate

But if one accept failed socialized medicine, there are other issues to consider

-Geaux

» 15 Reasons Why The Obamacare Decision Is A Mind Blowing Disaster For America Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

The following are 15 reasons why the Obamacare decision is a mind blowing disaster for America….

#1 According to the U.S. Supreme Court, the federal government has the power to force you to buy private goods and services. Now that this door has been opened, what else will we be forced to buy in the future?

#2 Obamacare is another step away from individual liberty and another step toward a “nanny state” where the government dominates our lives from the cradle to the grave.

#3 The IRS is now going to be given the task of hunting down and penalizing millions of Americans that do not have any health insurance. In fact, the Obama administration has given the IRS 500 million extra dollars “outside the normal appropriations process” to help them enforce the provisions of Obamacare that they are in charge of overseeing
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#4 Obamacare imposes more than 20 new taxes on the American people. You can find a comprehensive list of Obamacare taxes right here. If you love paying higher taxes, then you are going to absolutely love Obamacare once it is fully implemented.

#5 In an attempt to “control costs” and “promote efficiency”, Obamacare limits the treatment options that doctors and patients can consider. This is likely to result in a decrease in life expectancy in the United States.

#6 Obamacare is going to impose nightmarish paperwork burdens on doctors, hospitals and the rest of the healthcare system. This is going to significantly increase our healthcare costs as a nation.

#7 Obamacare is going to send health insurance premiums soaring. This is especially true for younger Americans.

#8 Many small businesses are going to be absolutely crushed by the provisions in Obamacare that require them to provide expensive health insurance coverage for their employees. This is going to make them even less competitive with companies in other countries where businesses are not required to provide healthcare for their workers. This is also going to make it even less attractive for businesses to hire new employees.

#9 Obamacare is going to make the emerging doctor shortage in America a lot worse. Surveys have found that we could potentially see hundreds of thousands of doctors leave the medical profession because of Obamacare.

#10 Obamacare has already forced the cancellation of dozens of doctor-owned hospitals.

#11 Obamacare is going to result in a much bigger federal government. In order to fully implement all of the provisions of Obamacare, hordes of new government bureaucrats will be required.

#12 Thanks to Obamacare, you are going to have to wait much longer to see a doctor. Just look at what happened once Romneycare was implemented in Massachusetts….
In fact, we have already seen the start of this process in Massachusetts, where Mitt Romney’s health care reforms were nearly identical to President Obama’s. Romney’s reforms increased the demand for health care but did nothing to expand the supply of physicians. In fact, by cracking down on insurance premiums, Massachusetts pushed insurers to reduce their payments to providers, making it less worthwhile for doctors to expand their practices. As a result, the average wait to get an appointment with a doctor grew from 33 days to over 55 days.

#13 Obamacare contains all kinds of insidious little provisions that most people don’t even know about. The following is one example from the Alliance Defense Fund….
“Did you know that with ObamaCare you will have to pay for life-saving drugs, but life-ending drugs are free. One hundred percent free. If this plan were really about health care wouldn’t it be the other way around?”

#14 As if the U.S. government was not facing enough of a crisis with entitlement spending, it is being projected that Obamacare will add 16 million more Americans to the Medicaid rolls. You and I will be paying for all of this.

#15 The Congressional Budget Office estimates that Obamacare will add more than a trillion dollars to government spending over the next decade. Considering the fact that the U.S. government is already drowning in debt, how in the world can we afford this?

Do you right wing turds have ANY brain cells?

Michael T. Snyder (born October 9, 1989) is a fundamentalist Christian crank who has started numerous blogs as a testament to his raging insane belief that the world is about to end. He started with The Economic Collapse Blog in 2007, with constant articles stating how the world is going to hell every single day since the meltdown started in 2007. It seems as though Snyder blames the government for every ill in the world, because without it everything would be great.

Like most doom-sayers, it doesn't seem to faze Snyder one bit that every one of his past predictions of economic collapse were dead wrong. This horrendous track record would cause most people to reevaluate their beliefs in the effort to one day be right. Yet, he simply refuses to even address or acknowledge that he has been wrong thousands of times, especially if you count each numbered item of his massive lists. He seems to have explosive diarrhea of the mind that no amount of logic can slow or stop.

 

[Billo_Really]

How do we fix the Affordable Care Act?

Take out the mandate and put in the "public option".

 

[Cuyo]

Majority of Americans don't want it

Next

-Geaux

So in truth, the majority of Americans WANT Obamacare.

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Actually, her intentionally un-quoted analysis is exactly correct.

By the most conservative estimates ~50% in favor, ~25% oppose, say doesn't go far enough, ~25% oppose, say goes too far. Give or take a few points on each.

That leaves 25% who fall into your category. We can only speculate as to what percentage thereof are opposed due to massive misinformation... But probably a lot.

Lumping both the 'too far' and 'not far enough' crowd into an inharmonic whole "Disapprove" crowd has been a trick the GOP has been using since the get-go. Not factually untrue, but disingenuous.

 

[Geaux4it]

So in truth, the majority of Americans WANT Obamacare.

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Actually, her intentionally un-quoted analysis is exactly correct.

By the most conservative estimates ~50% in favor, ~25% oppose, say doesn't go far enough, ~25% oppose, say goes too far. Give or take a few points on each.

That leaves 25% who fall into your category. We can only speculate as to what percentage thereof are opposed due to massive misinformation... But probably a lot.

Lumping both the 'too far' and 'not far enough' crowd into an inharmonic whole "Disapprove" crowd has been a trick the GOP has been using since the get-go. Not factually untrue, but disingenuous.

Socialized medicine=FAIL

Like I have said- Americans should have an OPT in or OUT option. Let those that desire degraded socialized medicine have it, and those of us who don't, leave us alone.

Let those that want it pay for it. And those of us that don't, can pay for our coverage

Pretty simple concept

-Geaux

 

[dblack]

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Actually, her intentionally un-quoted analysis is exactly correct.

By the most conservative estimates ~50% in favor, ~25% oppose, say doesn't go far enough, ~25% oppose, say goes too far. Give or take a few points on each.

That leaves 25% who fall into your category. We can only speculate as to what percentage thereof are opposed due to massive misinformation... But probably a lot.

Lumping both the 'too far' and 'not far enough' crowd into an inharmonic whole "Disapprove" crowd has been a trick the GOP has been using since the get-go. Not factually untrue, but disingenuous.

Socialized medicine=FAIL

Like I have said- Americans should have an OPT in or OUT option. Let those that desire degraded socialized medicine have it, and those of us who don't, leave us alone.

Let those that want it pay for it. And those of us that don't, can pay for our coverage

Pretty simple concept

-Geaux

But this defies the core purpose - government control over our health care. In order to compete globally, we must have centralized control over our workers and soldiers. If we attempt that top-down, it risks open rebellion - but if we can build unquestioned dependency first, such control is easy.

 

[RDD_1210]

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Sure they do. You do too. I'll prove it.

Besides the mandate, which portion of the law, specifically, do you not agree with?

The mandate

But if one accept failed socialized medicine, there are other issues to consider

-Geaux

So I ask for besides the mandate, which portion you don't like and you answer with "the mandate".....I knew you wouldn't know which part you didn't like. Thanks for proving that you are one of the many who do in fact like 99% of what the law consists of.

 

[Cuyo]

Um, no they don't grandma

-Geaux

Actually, her intentionally un-quoted analysis is exactly correct.

By the most conservative estimates ~50% in favor, ~25% oppose, say doesn't go far enough, ~25% oppose, say goes too far. Give or take a few points on each.

That leaves 25% who fall into your category. We can only speculate as to what percentage thereof are opposed due to massive misinformation... But probably a lot.

Lumping both the 'too far' and 'not far enough' crowd into an inharmonic whole "Disapprove" crowd has been a trick the GOP has been using since the get-go. Not factually untrue, but disingenuous.

Socialized medicine=FAIL

Like I have said- Americans should have an OPT in or OUT option. Let those that desire degraded socialized medicine have it, and those of us who don't, leave us alone.

Let those that want it pay for it. And those of us that don't, can pay for our coverage

Pretty simple concept

-Geaux

"Socialized Medicine" =/= Obamacare

"Massively misinformed" = You.

 

[Geaux4it]

Sure they do. You do too. I'll prove it.

Besides the mandate, which portion of the law, specifically, do you not agree with?

The mandate

But if one accept failed socialized medicine, there are other issues to consider

-Geaux

So I ask for besides the mandate, which portion you don't like and you answer with "the mandate".....I knew you wouldn't know which part you didn't like. Thanks for proving that you are one of the many who do in fact like 99% of what the law consists of.

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

Actually, her intentionally un-quoted analysis is exactly correct.

By the most conservative estimates ~50% in favor, ~25% oppose, say doesn't go far enough, ~25% oppose, say goes too far. Give or take a few points on each.

That leaves 25% who fall into your category. We can only speculate as to what percentage thereof are opposed due to massive misinformation... But probably a lot.

Lumping both the 'too far' and 'not far enough' crowd into an inharmonic whole "Disapprove" crowd has been a trick the GOP has been using since the get-go. Not factually untrue, but disingenuous.

Socialized medicine=FAIL

Like I have said- Americans should have an OPT in or OUT option. Let those that desire degraded socialized medicine have it, and those of us who don't, leave us alone.

Let those that want it pay for it. And those of us that don't, can pay for our coverage

Pretty simple concept

-Geaux

"Socialized Medicine" =/= Obamacare

"Massively misinformed" = You.

In that case, I guess one could say Obamacare is a synonym of FAIL

-Geaux