How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[Crick]

That's no big up tick since the effects haven't been seen. No uptick in natural calamities either. Sea levels aren't high nor destroying the coasts. Even the lowest islands aren't being affected. Al Gore and the rest of you are just socialist alarmists trying to gain world wide dominance and steal people's money. Admit it.

Where do you get such nonsense?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

 

[jc456]

Wrong, there have been.

Where

 

[jc456]

Where do you get such nonsense?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

Yet you can’t say where

 

[multivita-man]

Simply put, we're recreating the end-Triassic and end-Permian extinction events. Have fun, folks. Worked out well for 70-90% of the species during those cycles.

 

[EMH]

Simply put, we're recreating the end-Triassic and end-Permian extinction events. Have fun, folks. Worked out well for 70-90% of the species during those cycles.

Missing = any actual evidence of an ongoing planetary warming trend

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ongoing NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE


NOTHING but the deliberate misinterpretation of the urban heat sink effect on the Surface Ground series (measured on the surface of growing urban areas)

 

[Cougarbear]

Humans weren’t around then. You’re delusional.

What does that have to do with anything? Without humans the CO2 was 6,000. So what if it's a mere 414 now? CO2 has nothing to do with any calamities in the past and in the future.

 

[Cougarbear]

You’re babbling again. Why did you reference a graph that refutes you ? It’s because all of them do.

The graph did not refute anything I wrote. You need to stop babbling in gibberish. There is no calamities in the near future do to CO2. It's another liberal Democrat hoax to control the money supply around the world and distribute around to all your rich leftist buddies.

 

[Cougarbear]

It was not. It has never gotten above 2,000 ppm and that was hundreds of millions of years ago. And I'd highly suggest never again using the term "dinosaurs period" if you don't want to look like a 4th grader.

I said it has not gotten above 300 ppm for the 3 million years prior to the Industrial Revolution because that is a fact.

I'm sorry but that is incorrect. Water vapor is a greenhouse gas and there is a lot of it, but humans cannot change its level in the atmosphere because it is a precipitable compound and thus it cannot affect global temperatures directly. Water vapor levels are temperature dependent and so it acts as a positive feedback. It is responsible for most of the temperature affect of increasing CO2.

CO2 most assuredly participates in the greenhouse effect. From the latest IPCC assessment report

All you have to do is google and you will find that the ppm was at 6,000 during the dinosaur period. Try it. You will like it. Clouds hold in warmth, by the way. No clouds, it can get very warm...

 

[Crick]

What does that have to do with anything? Without humans the CO2 was 6,000. So what if it's a mere 414 now? CO2 has nothing to do with any calamities in the past and in the future.

CO2 has never been anywhere near 6,000 ppm

Do high levels of CO2 in the past contradict the warming effect of CO2?

<p>When CO2 levels were higher in the past, solar levels were also lower. The combined effect of sun and CO2 matches well with climate.</p>

skepticalscience.com

A Graphical History of Atmospheric CO2 Levels Over Time | Earth.Org

As the most abundant greenhouse gas in our atmosphere, CO2 levels have varied widely over the course of the Earth’s 4.54 billion year history.

earth.org

 

[Cougarbear]

Really ? See that long skinny line running near vertical on the far right ? That represents a change in the rate. It’s much steeper for a longer interval than anywhere else on the graph. Hence, in math, the rate of change is greater.

Has there been any change with the coastal shorelines of America or any other country? How about low islands in the South Pacific? Nope! All a big hoax!

 

[Cougarbear]

Wrong, there have been.

No there has not. Nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[Crick]

Has there been any change with the coastal shorelines of America or any other country? How about low islands in the South Pacific? Nope! All a big hoax!

In the last 150 years, global sea levels have risen about 8 inches. That is an established fact. That HAS had an effect in numerous places. But if you think about it, the first time that's going to have any effect is when it pushes a storm surge or the like over the edge but then all the people who think there's no sea level rise will say it was just the storm surge.

 

[Cougarbear]

Where do you get such nonsense?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No uptick?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

No sea level rise?

Love your lines. Tell me, has any coastal communities had to move their buildings back or do anything out of the ordinary for the past 500 years? Nope. Nothing. Why? you alarmists keep throwing these charts that are just more "hockey stick" crapola. Meaningless. So, where are the rises? We have the same beaches and water levels here in our surfing neck of California that we've always had. Oh ya, Antarctica is growing. That's right. THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

 

[EMH]

global sea levels have risen about 8 inches

BULLSHIT

That is an established fact.

You cannot show us one single landmark sinking, not one... ALL FUDGE and FRAUD.

And this is why, because your side is LYING about Antarctica "melting"

NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

www.nasa.gov

“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some



SERIOUS TAXPAYER FUNDED FUDGE BAKING FRAUD ONGOING....

 

[multivita-man]

Missing = any actual evidence of an ongoing planetary warming trend

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ongoing NET ICE MELT
NO BREAKOUT in CANE ACTIVITY
NO OCEAN RISE


NOTHING but the deliberate misinterpretation of the urban heat sink effect on the Surface Ground series (measured on the surface of growing urban areas)

Fuck off, troll.

 

[EMH]

Fuck off, troll.

Go to Italy and dump some mud on your head, MORON...

 

[Crick]

Fuck off, troll.

Watched the Ted Lasso season finale. I've never seen such a show for restoring your belief in the innate goodness of humanity. But, a troll's a troll and EMH is a fucking troll.

 

[EMH]

Watched the Ted Lasso season finale. I've never seen such a show for restoring your belief in the innate goodness of humanity. But, a troll's a troll and EMH is a fucking troll.

Busted LYING in British Court 2007 about Antarctic Ice...

Court Identifies Eleven Inaccuracies in Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’

Here's something American media are virtually guaranteed to not report: a British court has determined that Al Gore's schlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth" contains at least eleven material falsehoods. It seems a safe bet Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer won't be discussing this Tuesday morning...

www.newsbusters.org

• The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
• The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
• The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.
• The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case.
• The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
• The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
• The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
• The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.

• The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.

• The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
• The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.

 

[Cougarbear]

In the last 150 years, global sea levels have risen about 8 inches. That is an established fact. That HAS had an effect in numerous places. But if you think about it, the first time that's going to have any effect is when it pushes a storm surge or the like over the edge but then all the people who think there's no sea level rise will say it was just the storm surge.

Yet, no flooding not any decrease of the shorelines. Someone is lying.

 

[abu afak]

Yet, no flooding not any decrease of the shorelines. Someone is lying.

They weren't built in flood zones.
All through S Florida (for one place)



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