How does an 'anchor baby' legally anchor his illegal alien parents ?

[g5000]

There isn't much difference between the bigots targeting Mexicans today and the bigots who targeted the Chinese 120 years ago.

 

[peach174]

amazing how liberals can 'legislate' American law in a footnote.....but then again that's how they 'legislated' abortion rights, gay marriage rights, etc....

The 14th amendment is not a footnote. The language is quite plain.

They are citizens, period.

no.... it was Justice Brennan who wrote a footnote to a case in 1982 about 'jurisdiction'....creating the insane immigration policy on anchor babies....

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

 

[g5000]

The 14th amendment is not a footnote. The language is quite plain.

They are citizens, period.

no.... it was Justice Brennan who wrote a footnote to a case in 1982 about 'jurisdiction'....creating the insane immigration policy on anchor babies....

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

No, I did not ignore it.

Repeating the same bullshit which I just debunked doesn't make it true.

Illegals are under our jurisdiction, just like Wong Kim Ark's parents were under our jurisdiction. That's the similarity, and the only thing that matters.

Children born to parents under our jurisdiction are citizens, period.

 

[peach174]

no.... it was Justice Brennan who wrote a footnote to a case in 1982 about 'jurisdiction'....creating the insane immigration policy on anchor babies....

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

No, I did not ignore it.

Repeating the same bullshit which I just debunked doesn't make it true.

You did not debunk anything.

 

[g5000]

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

No, I did not ignore it.

Repeating the same bullshit which I just debunked doesn't make it true.

You did not debunk anything.

I did. You just can't accept it.

Illegals are under our jurisdiction, just like Wong Kim Ark's parents were under our jurisdiction. That's the similarity, and the only thing that matters under the 14th amendment.

Children born to parents under our jurisdiction are citizens, period.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 14th amendment is not a footnote. The language is quite plain.

They are citizens, period.

no.... it was Justice Brennan who wrote a footnote to a case in 1982 about 'jurisdiction'....creating the insane immigration policy on anchor babies....

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

 

[peach174]

no.... it was Justice Brennan who wrote a footnote to a case in 1982 about 'jurisdiction'....creating the insane immigration policy on anchor babies....

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

It is very much so material.

 

[g5000]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

 

[peach174]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

From the court case itself.
"That, at the time of his said birth, his mother and father were domiciled residents of the United States, and had established and enjoyed a permanent domicil and residence therein at said city and county of San Francisco, State aforesaid."
They were here legally.

 

[g5000]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

Nope. That makes no difference. All that matters is whether or not the parents are under US jurisdiction.

You are going to have to prove illegals are not under US jurisdiction. And if they are not under US jurisdiction, then you will have to admit they are not breaking our laws.



You lose, dude. Sorry.

 

[peach174]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

Nope. That makes no difference. All that matters is whether or not the parents are under US jurisdiction.

You are going to have to prove illegals are not under US jurisdiction. And if they are not under US jurisdiction, then you will have to admit they are not breaking our laws.



You lose, dude. Sorry.

I am not a dude.
It means that they are breaking the immigration laws of the States and the Federal Government.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You're way off.

It was United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 which established that everyone born in the US is a citizen.

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

It is very much so material.

Nope. They are citizens, and the process can only be undone by an amendment or by SCOTUS, not the president or the congress.

 

[JakeStarkey]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

Nope. That makes no difference. All that matters is whether or not the parents are under US jurisdiction.

You are going to have to prove illegals are not under US jurisdiction. And if they are not under US jurisdiction, then you will have to admit they are not breaking our laws.



You lose, dude. Sorry.

I am not a dude.
It means that they are breaking the immigration laws of the States and the Federal Government.

Illegals in this country thus are subject to our laws.

 

[g5000]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

Nope. That makes no difference. All that matters is whether or not the parents are under US jurisdiction.

You are going to have to prove illegals are not under US jurisdiction. And if they are not under US jurisdiction, then you will have to admit they are not breaking our laws.



You lose, dude. Sorry.

I am not a dude.
It means that they are breaking the immigration laws of the States and the Federal Government.

Which means they are under our jurisdiction. Babe.

 

[peach174]

Because his parents were here legally under the Domicile Law under the Jurisdiction of California laws at that time.
They were not here illegally.
The 14th Amendment is not for Alien law breakers.

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

It is very much so material.

Nope. They are citizens, and the process can only be undone by an amendment or by SCOTUS, not the president or the congress.

There is also the word Aliens in there as well as diplomats.
Then the same should apply to this administration who are ignoring the immigration laws and are having to fend off the law suits by ICE agents.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I Got You Babe

 

[peach174]

In the 1890s, Chinese foreigners in the US could not attain citizenship. There were bigoted laws on the books preventing them from doing so.

When Wong Kim Ark was born in the US to parents from China, the nativists felt that Wong Kim Ark was not allowed to be a citizen since he was of the Chinese race.

Though the law forbade his parents from being citizens, they were still under US jurisdiction, which meant Wong Kim Ark had birthright citizenship under the 14th amendment. So sayeth the Supreme Court in 1898.

Now we have modern day nativists who think the illegal status of the parents of a child born here means the child is not allowed to be a citizen.

They are wrong for exactly the same reasons as their bigoted political ancestors were in 1898. The parents of the children born in the US are under US jurisdiction. Therefore, their children have birthright citizenship.

His parents were not breaking the laws at that time and they were here legally.
Big difference.

Nope. That makes no difference. All that matters is whether or not the parents are under US jurisdiction.

You are going to have to prove illegals are not under US jurisdiction. And if they are not under US jurisdiction, then you will have to admit they are not breaking our laws.



You lose, dude. Sorry.

I am not a dude.
It means that they are breaking the immigration laws of the States and the Federal Government.

Illegals in this country thus are subject to our laws.

Which is why they are called illegal.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What law are they breaking?

US law.

Ergo, illegals are under our jurisdiction. Ergo, their children born here are citizens. Simple as that.

By the way, did you read the case? Wong Kim Ark's parents weren't allowed to become citizens due to bigoted laws in the US at the time which excluded Chinese from attaining citizenship.

As the child of parents of an excluded race, Wong Kim Ark was Chinese, and it was believed by your bigoted political ancesters the exclusion applied to him, too.

But thanks to the 14th amendment, it didn't.

Same for the children of illegals.

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

It is very much so material.

Nope. They are citizens, and the process can only be undone by an amendment or by SCOTUS, not the president or the congress.

There is also the word Aliens in there as well as diplomats.
Then the same should apply to this administration who are ignoring the immigration laws and are having to fend off the law suits by ICE agents.

Well. Golly. Gee.

Email Congress.

 

[peach174]

I noticed you ignored that his parents were here legally and not illegally.

Immaterial. Children born here, except for those of diplomatic parents, are citizens.

It is very much so material.

Nope. They are citizens, and the process can only be undone by an amendment or by SCOTUS, not the president or the congress.

There is also the word Aliens in there as well as diplomats.
Then the same should apply to this administration who are ignoring the immigration laws and are having to fend off the law suits by ICE agents.

Well. Golly. Gee.

Email Congress.

Why?
Neither party is doing anything about it.
Meanwhile the cost of illegals will continue to rise.
Hell yeah lets just keep doing the same thing and when this country can no longer sustain itself, then what?
I would rather we get control of our spending.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yes, something needs to be done, But you way can't be done.

1. Secure the border.
2. Punish business and its people and the dividends of those companies hiring illegals.
3. Begin an immigrant path to legitimacy.