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How Far to the Left is Too Far?

lol, Hitler was a RIGHT WING NATIONALIST BACKED BY the INDUSTRIALISTS (read 'job creators' ), which side does that sound like?

In Europe there was a left wing, (Communists) and right wing, (Socialists).
Europe's "right" wing is akin to our left wing.
The industrialists had little choice. Communism, where the state owns everything, or Socialism where at least they kept their property. Unless of course they were Jewish.

So don't confuse the terms by trying to associate our Conservatism with Hitler's Socialism by uttering "right wing".
 
No, fucking morons, Hitler was not left wing. What part of massacring millions of people sounds like the political beliefs of left-wing hippie tree-huggers? Left-wing socialist communist liberal hippies who protest war in general are the extreme opposite of Adolf God-damned Hitler. This means that Hitler was right-wing. It's simple enough even for a Teabagger to understand it.

Hitler used right-wing Fascist control of the private and public sectors, right-wing control of media propaganda, right-wing extermination camps, right-wing all-out World War to exterminate everyone who he didn't like. That is not left-wing, that is not Progressive, but the Nazis were very "liberal" with the number of people who they starved and butchered.

Hitler was right-wing. I've even had to have this argument with a college professor. He insisted that Hitler was left-wing. Who the fuck started this shit? Hitler was not a left-wing peace-loving hippie flower child who believed in universal equality. He was the furthest right of right-wing Fascist dictators that history has to offer. Stop this idiotic debate. How fucking stupid are you people?

The same fucking morons who insist that Hitler was "leftist" also claim that Obama is "socialist". Give one example to support these ridiculous claims.
 
Too far left is someone who defends the left even when their policies become destructive to this country. someone who only reads left wing sites or articles. Someone who won't even consider the right side of issues just because it's their team against the right.
 
Too far left is someone who defends the left even when their policies become destructive to this country. someone who only reads left wing sites or articles. Someone who won't even consider the right side of issues just because it's their team against the right.

And too far right is the exact same.

The right still defends Bush even though he destroyed most of what this country is supposed to stand for.

The Torture Archive
 
And too far right is the exact same.

The right still defends Bush even though he destroyed most of what this country is supposed to stand for.


Exactly so.

However distinction needs be drawn in that Bush is no longer in a position to monitor your telephone calls, read your e-mails, damage the economy and/or travel the world representing himself as all that's good about America.

On the other hand..........
 
Too far left is someone who defends the left even when their policies become destructive to this country. someone who only reads left wing sites or articles. Someone who won't even consider the right side of issues just because it's their team against the right.

And too far right is the exact same.

The right still defends Bush even though he destroyed most of what this country is supposed to stand for.

The Torture Archive

Name one person from the right that defends Bush.
 
Libertarians are FARRRRRR right on economics, RIGHT WINGERS

Everything else you posit, like most thing Randian's 'believe in' is myths and fairy tales!

LOL, that is what it comes down to. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on social issues. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on military issues. We're to the right of both Republicans and democrats on fiscal issues.

Which is why you think we're Republicans. In the end, it's about your welfare check. The rest is just background noise to you. It's your greed. That's what motivates you, that's all that motivates you, according to ... you.

Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL


MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES
 
lol, Hitler was a RIGHT WING NATIONALIST BACKED BY the INDUSTRIALISTS (read 'job creators' ), which side does that sound like?

In Europe there was a left wing, (Communists) and right wing, (Socialists).
Europe's "right" wing is akin to our left wing.
The industrialists had little choice. Communism, where the state owns everything, or Socialism where at least they kept their property. Unless of course they were Jewish.

So don't confuse the terms by trying to associate our Conservatism with Hitler's Socialism by uttering "right wing".

More conservative nonsense. I'm shocked...


Conservative policy NEVER works and they don't have ANY history to fall back on

Hitler was a Fascist claiming to be a National Socialist...super radical and oppressively conservative. strongly authoritarian


Right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a personality and ideological variable studied in political, social, and personality psychology. Right-wing authoritarians are people who have a high degree of willingness to submit to authorities they perceive as established and legitimate, who adhere to societal conventions and norms, and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who don't adhere to them. They value uniformity and are in favour of using group authority, including coercion, to achieve it.


Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





The Authoritarians

The Authoritarians





I never meant to say that the conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.

John Stuart Mill, in a letter to the Conservative MP, John Pakington
 
Too far left is someone who defends the left even when their policies become destructive to this country. someone who only reads left wing sites or articles. Someone who won't even consider the right side of issues just because it's their team against the right.

Which policies are that? Please elaborate?

BUT tax cuts will create jobs right?
 
Too far left is someone who defends the left even when their policies become destructive to this country. someone who only reads left wing sites or articles. Someone who won't even consider the right side of issues just because it's their team against the right.

And too far right is the exact same.

The right still defends Bush even though he destroyed most of what this country is supposed to stand for.

The Torture Archive

Name one person from the right that defends Bush.



Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture

Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture | Prometheus Unbound


December 11, 2012


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: In fact, there's so much... They're trying to tell us today that the Bush economy let to the recession, created the recession and all that and the economic collapse in 2008. That wasn't Bush. That was the subprime mortgage problem that came due. That's when the excrement hit the fan. Bush actually tried to prevent that from happening. No, look, the Bush people never defended themselves; I don't know why I am.


The World According to an Obama Voter - The Rush Limbaugh Show
 
Libertarians are FARRRRRR right on economics, RIGHT WINGERS

Everything else you posit, like most thing Randian's 'believe in' is myths and fairy tales!

LOL, that is what it comes down to. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on social issues. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on military issues. We're to the right of both Republicans and democrats on fiscal issues.

Which is why you think we're Republicans. In the end, it's about your welfare check. The rest is just background noise to you. It's your greed. That's what motivates you, that's all that motivates you, according to ... you.

Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL


MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES

The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.
 
LOL, that is what it comes down to. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on social issues. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on military issues. We're to the right of both Republicans and democrats on fiscal issues.



Which is why you think we're Republicans. In the end, it's about your welfare check. The rest is just background noise to you. It's your greed. That's what motivates you, that's all that motivates you, according to ... you.



Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL





MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES



The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.


The US Constitution when it was created? The one that included slavery, didn't give women suffrage, and the electoral college?


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LOL, that is what it comes down to. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on social issues. We're to the left of both Republicans and Democrats on military issues. We're to the right of both Republicans and democrats on fiscal issues.

Which is why you think we're Republicans. In the end, it's about your welfare check. The rest is just background noise to you. It's your greed. That's what motivates you, that's all that motivates you, according to ... you.

Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL


MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES

The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.

Seriously? You think the US Constitution was written by libertarians? lol

THE GUYS WHO DUMPED STRONG STATES RIGHTS FOR STRONG FEDERAL GOV'T? LOL


THE FOUNDERS WERE MANY THINGS, BUT THEY WEREN'T LIBERTARIANS....

The Washington Monthly
 
No, fucking morons, Hitler was not left wing. What part of massacring millions of people sounds like the political beliefs of left-wing hippie tree-huggers? Left-wing socialist communist liberal hippies who protest war in general are the extreme opposite of Adolf God-damned Hitler. This means that Hitler was right-wing. It's simple enough even for a Teabagger to understand it.

Hitler used right-wing Fascist control of the private and public sectors, right-wing control of media propaganda, right-wing extermination camps, right-wing all-out World War to exterminate everyone who he didn't like. That is not left-wing, that is not Progressive, but the Nazis were very "liberal" with the number of people who they starved and butchered.

Hitler was right-wing. I've even had to have this argument with a college professor. He insisted that Hitler was left-wing. Who the fuck started this shit? Hitler was not a left-wing peace-loving hippie flower child who believed in universal equality. He was the furthest right of right-wing Fascist dictators that history has to offer. Stop this idiotic debate. How fucking stupid are you people?

The same fucking morons who insist that Hitler was "leftist" also claim that Obama is "socialist". Give one example to support these ridiculous claims.

You're right it is simple, he was a socialist, thus left wing. Socialist is left. Only a liberal would have problems understanding simple fact.
 
Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL





MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES



The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.


The US Constitution when it was created? The one that included slavery, didn't give women suffrage, and the electoral college?


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Where does the Constitution include slavery or deny women the right to vote? Can you show me that part?

No idea what your "electoral college" part means. There's nothing not libertarian about that. We believe in the rights of States, the electoral college helps average out the number of States versus the size of States. I see how it's not liberal, where you recognize States as being subservient to the central government, but that's not a libertarian view.
 
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Tell you what, just give me ONE successful use of libertarian policy that has EVER worked for a nation? LOL


MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES

The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.

Seriously? You think the US Constitution was written by libertarians? lol

THE GUYS WHO DUMPED STRONG STATES RIGHTS FOR STRONG FEDERAL GOV'T? LOL


THE FOUNDERS WERE MANY THINGS, BUT THEY WEREN'T LIBERTARIANS....

The Washington Monthly

Not sure what you're smoking, but can I have a hit of that? It must be some good shit.

You may want to read the Constitution and about what Wilson and FDR in particular did to it because you know nothing about it.

Start with the 9th and 10th amendments. Let me know how it goes.
 
And too far right is the exact same.

The right still defends Bush even though he destroyed most of what this country is supposed to stand for.

The Torture Archive

Name one person from the right that defends Bush.



Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture

Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture | Prometheus Unbound


December 11, 2012


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: In fact, there's so much... They're trying to tell us today that the Bush economy let to the recession, created the recession and all that and the economic collapse in 2008. That wasn't Bush. That was the subprime mortgage problem that came due. That's when the excrement hit the fan. Bush actually tried to prevent that from happening. No, look, the Bush people never defended themselves; I don't know why I am.


The World According to an Obama Voter - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Clearly you don't understand the difference between defending Bush, and defending one Act of Bush's.

Bush spoke well of our troops, Bush defended our troops. Do you support our troops? Yes or No?

FYI by your above retarded view if you support our troops you are defending Bush.
 
Name one person from the right that defends Bush.



Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture

Rush Limbaugh Defends Bush Era Torture | Prometheus Unbound


December 11, 2012


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: In fact, there's so much... They're trying to tell us today that the Bush economy let to the recession, created the recession and all that and the economic collapse in 2008. That wasn't Bush. That was the subprime mortgage problem that came due. That's when the excrement hit the fan. Bush actually tried to prevent that from happening. No, look, the Bush people never defended themselves; I don't know why I am.


The World According to an Obama Voter - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Clearly you don't understand the difference between defending Bush, and defending one Act of Bush's.

Bush spoke well of our troops, Bush defended our troops. Do you support our troops? Yes or No?

FYI by your above retarded view if you support our troops you are defending Bush.


Right, Hannnity, Rush, Beck, Faux, NONE of them EVER defend Bush and his horrible policies (tax cuts will create jobs??? lol)


Bush defended our troops? BY TAKING THEM TO WAR ON FALSE PREMISES? FKKKKKNG SERIOUSLY?
 
The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.

Seriously? You think the US Constitution was written by libertarians? lol

THE GUYS WHO DUMPED STRONG STATES RIGHTS FOR STRONG FEDERAL GOV'T? LOL


THE FOUNDERS WERE MANY THINGS, BUT THEY WEREN'T LIBERTARIANS....

The Washington Monthly

Not sure what you're smoking, but can I have a hit of that? It must be some good shit.

You may want to read the Constitution and about what Wilson and FDR in particular did to it because you know nothing about it.

Start with the 9th and 10th amendments. Let me know how it goes.

I know what the US Constitution was meant to be and is, a living document!


Of course right wingers want to use the propaganda that sold the US Constitution as 'evidence' of what the Founders meant, lol
 
The US Constitution. Granted it fell apart in the 20th century, but it had a great run and allowed Americans the freedom to build the greatest nation in the history of mankind. That is until the moochers like you took over.


The US Constitution when it was created? The one that included slavery, didn't give women suffrage, and the electoral college?


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Where does the Constitution include slavery or deny women the right to vote? Can you show me that part?

No idea what your "electoral college" part means. There's nothing not libertarian about that. We believe in the rights of States, the electoral college helps average out the number of States versus the size of States. I see how it's not liberal, where you recognize States as being subservient to the central government, but that's not a libertarian view.


Madison and Washington both wanted states to be under federal control right?


3/5ths?

Right from the beginning powers were being stripped from the states.
 

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