I think you're way off base here. There's a widespread conservative presumption that the demands of the poor drive welfare state policies. I haven't found that to be true. They will, of course, enlist whatever help they can find to get what they need. But they aren't in DC lobbying for more benefits. From what I've seen, the welfare state is mostly driven by the sympathies and fears of people who are relative well-off: they feel sorry for people who have less, and they fear that those people will resort to violence to get what they need.
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How many countries can we migrate to and get paid to have babies?
- Thread starter BrokeLoser
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I think you're way off base here. There's a widespread conservative presumption that the demands of the poor drive welfare state policies. I haven't found that to be true. They will, of course, enlist whatever help they can find to get what they need. But they aren't in DC lobbying for more benefits. From what I've seen, the welfare state is mostly driven by the sympathies and fears of people who are relative well-off: they feel sorry for people who have less, and they fear that those people will resort to violence to get what they need.
BrokeLoser
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Rosie,
Who da _____ said Americans had to pay child support to everyone on Earth who couldn't control themselves?
Bear in mind....@irosie91 is a taker herself. Should we really expect a different opinion from her?
you are projecting,
You’re a dead giveaway....NOBODY truly productive and contributing positively speaks like you do....NOBODY.
You need to work on masking your personal situation a little better...maybe then you’ll gain some credibility. Good luck.
I think you're way off base here. There's a widespread conservative presumption that the demands of the poor drive welfare state policies. I haven't found that to be true. They will, of course, enlist whatever help they can find to get what they need. But they aren't in DC lobbying for more benefits. From what I've seen, the welfare state is mostly driven by the sympathies and fears of people who are relative well-off: they feel sorry for people who have less, and they fear that those people will resort to violence to get what they need.
Negative
Almost nobody well-off feels sorry for the bulk of the poor..we’re sane enough to know their situation is self induced, they are their own worst enemy...and NOBODY is “scared” of what poor desperate people might do...NOBODY.
Rosie,
Who da _____ said Americans had to pay child support to everyone on Earth who couldn't control themselves?
Bear in mind....@irosie91 is a taker herself. Should we really expect a different opinion from her?
you are projecting,
You’re a dead giveaway....NOBODY truly productive and contributing positively speaks like you do....NOBODY.
You need to work on masking your personal situation a little better...maybe then you’ll gain some credibility. Good luck.
I was MYSTIFIED by your statement of me as a social "taker"------I assumed at first that you
have me pegged as a "welfare queen" (in the USA ---a welfare queen is a woman who has
lots of kids and collects lots of welfare) So I will ask you------is that the point you are
attempting to make? I am a "dead giveaway" based on what I say-------what did I say
that 'gave me away'??? It is important to me that you answer.-----I had been tasked
with evaluating credibility for many decades of my professional life. A credible person
would attempt to answer the question
Rosie,
Who da _____ said Americans had to pay child support to everyone on Earth who couldn't control themselves?
Bear in mind....@irosie91 is a taker herself. Should we really expect a different opinion from her?
you are projecting,
You’re a dead giveaway....NOBODY truly productive and contributing positively speaks like you do....NOBODY.
You need to work on masking your personal situation a little better...maybe then you’ll gain some credibility. Good luck.
I think you're way off base here. There's a widespread conservative presumption that the demands of the poor drive welfare state policies. I haven't found that to be true. They will, of course, enlist whatever help they can find to get what they need. But they aren't in DC lobbying for more benefits. From what I've seen, the welfare state is mostly driven by the sympathies and fears of people who are relative well-off: they feel sorry for people who have less, and they fear that those people will resort to violence to get what they need.
Negative
Almost nobody well-off feels sorry for the bulk of the poor..we’re sane enough to know their situation is self induced, they are their own worst enemy...and NOBODY is “scared” of what poor desperate people might do...NOBODY.
I am relatively well-off. I am not "scared" of what poor desperate people might do. I feel
sorry for the bulk of the poor
Rosie,
Who da _____ said Americans had to pay child support to everyone on Earth who couldn't control themselves?
Bear in mind....@irosie91 is a taker herself. Should we really expect a different opinion from her?
you are projecting,
You’re a dead giveaway....NOBODY truly productive and contributing positively speaks like you do....NOBODY.
You need to work on masking your personal situation a little better...maybe then you’ll gain some credibility. Good luck.
I think you're way off base here. There's a widespread conservative presumption that the demands of the poor drive welfare state policies. I haven't found that to be true. They will, of course, enlist whatever help they can find to get what they need. But they aren't in DC lobbying for more benefits. From what I've seen, the welfare state is mostly driven by the sympathies and fears of people who are relative well-off: they feel sorry for people who have less, and they fear that those people will resort to violence to get what they need.
I am relatively well of-----support social benefits and am far more afraid that vulnerable
people will suffer MORE AND MORE than that they will resort to violence.
Darkwind
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Retroactive to 1970.Why doesn’t congress pass laws so only citizens can collect?
I'm not sure if you are serious, or not but guessing you are being facetious. We already have laws against it, but the illegals steal people's identites, and SS#'s to get benefits. Guess what? If they have kids, they get more $$$!
Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
WEATHER53
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingWhy doesn’t congress pass laws so only citizens can collect?
I'm not sure if you are serious, or not but guessing you are being facetious. We already have laws against it, but the illegals steal people's identites, and SS#'s to get benefits. Guess what? If they have kids, they get more $$$!
Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Inhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
BrokeLoser
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingWhy doesn’t congress pass laws so only citizens can collect?
I'm not sure if you are serious, or not but guessing you are being facetious. We already have laws against it, but the illegals steal people's identites, and SS#'s to get benefits. Guess what? If they have kids, they get more $$$!
Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Inhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
Nailed it!
LefTards:
“You listen here you greedy bastard, you’re gonna let 15-40 million illegal wetbacks invade your country illegally and drop their kids in your lap, you’ll let ShaQuita have six children with four baby daddy’s...you’ll allow all of them access to your checking account and if you say one fucking thing about it....you’re a racist fucking bastard!”
Norman
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This is a serious question. Are we the only suckers?
We hear Lefties complain nonstop about how folks don’t get enough free shit here...Are they happy with how we ‘take care’ of the worlds poor?
$20 trillion in debt....do we keep saving the world?
Is it time to strongly consider a constitutional amendment?
None...
Such countries fail within a few short years. If there are no borders, there is no country.
Unkotare
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingI'm not sure if you are serious, or not but guessing you are being facetious. We already have laws against it, but the illegals steal people's identites, and SS#'s to get benefits. Guess what? If they have kids, they get more $$$!
Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Inhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
Nailed it!
LefTards:
“You listen here you greedy bastard, you’re gonna let 15-40 million illegal wetbacks invade your country illegally and drop their kids in your lap, you’ll let ShaQuita have six children with four baby daddy’s...you’ll allow all of them access to your checking account and if you say one fucking thing about it....you’re a racist fucking bastard!”
Do YOU, of all people, deny being a racist fucking bastard? You try hard to present yourself as one.
BrokeLoser
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingChange the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Inhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
Nailed it!
LefTards:
“You listen here you greedy bastard, you’re gonna let 15-40 million illegal wetbacks invade your country illegally and drop their kids in your lap, you’ll let ShaQuita have six children with four baby daddy’s...you’ll allow all of them access to your checking account and if you say one fucking thing about it....you’re a racist fucking bastard!”
Do YOU, of all people, deny being a racist fucking bastard? You try hard to present yourself as one.
I speak nothing but the truth...exposing filth along the way. Ignorant, nutless little bitches like you can’t stand the truth as it relates to ethnicity. You like to oppress the truth by intimidating people with the threat of crying “racist”....that shit doesn’t work with me, I push my balls around in a wheelbarrow...haha
Unkotare
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingno----because it is inhumane
Inhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
Nailed it!
LefTards:
“You listen here you greedy bastard, you’re gonna let 15-40 million illegal wetbacks invade your country illegally and drop their kids in your lap, you’ll let ShaQuita have six children with four baby daddy’s...you’ll allow all of them access to your checking account and if you say one fucking thing about it....you’re a racist fucking bastard!”
Do YOU, of all people, deny being a racist fucking bastard? You try hard to present yourself as one.
I speak nothing but the truth...exposing filth along the way. Ignorant, nutless little bitches like you can’t stand the truth as it relates to ethnicity. You like to oppress the truth by intimidating people with the threat of crying “racist”....that shit doesn’t work with me, I push my balls around in a wheelbarrow...haha
The fact that you can’t communicate like an adult exposes your underlying insecurity about the topic. You haven’t even convinced yourself.
BrokeLoser
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Liberals love to force other people to pay for things and decry them as racist if they are unwillingInhumane my ass.
People like you should open up your homes and take responsibility, total responsibility, for any illegal who wants to come to America.
You whip out YOUR wallet, YOUR debit card and YOUR checkbook and pay for their medical, food and housing.
These people aren't the responsibility of the taxpayers of America. Their own country should be paying for them.
Catch a clue you moron.
Nailed it!
LefTards:
“You listen here you greedy bastard, you’re gonna let 15-40 million illegal wetbacks invade your country illegally and drop their kids in your lap, you’ll let ShaQuita have six children with four baby daddy’s...you’ll allow all of them access to your checking account and if you say one fucking thing about it....you’re a racist fucking bastard!”
Do YOU, of all people, deny being a racist fucking bastard? You try hard to present yourself as one.
I speak nothing but the truth...exposing filth along the way. Ignorant, nutless little bitches like you can’t stand the truth as it relates to ethnicity. You like to oppress the truth by intimidating people with the threat of crying “racist”....that shit doesn’t work with me, I push my balls around in a wheelbarrow...haha
The fact that you can’t communicate like an adult exposes your underlying insecurity about the topic. You haven’t even convinced yourself.
I choose to speak like a big boy...does my choice of words scare you...need a cry closet?
When I can’t debate or refute another’s claim using logic and reason I always accuse them of not “communicating like an adult” as well...that allows us to stay disengaged without looking stupid huh?
Slyhunter
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Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Is it humane for people to enter countries illegally and FORCE the native people to pay for the invaders kids?
the issue comes down to .......<are you ready? > CHILDREN ---or, even just
SICK people. We of the USA are a moral people------we do not withhold food or
medical care from the hungry and the sick
Government taking the property of peaceful people by force and "redistributing" is "moral" ? Does theft magically become moral when government does it ?
If "We of the USA" were a moral people then we'd hold government to the same moral standards that individuals are held to but we don't, because we're not a "moral people" , we're a bunch of sheep gorging ourselves on propaganda and cognitive dissonance.
yes-----taxes used to PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE----
is moral and constitutional ------as a kid you should have learned the preamble
to the Constitution------"by heart"
Moonglow
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no----because it is inhumane
Is it humane for people to enter countries illegally and FORCE the native people to pay for the invaders kids?
the issue comes down to .......<are you ready? > CHILDREN ---or, even just
SICK people. We of the USA are a moral people------we do not withhold food or
medical care from the hungry and the sick
Government taking the property of peaceful people by force and "redistributing" is "moral" ? Does theft magically become moral when government does it ?
If "We of the USA" were a moral people then we'd hold government to the same moral standards that individuals are held to but we don't, because we're not a "moral people" , we're a bunch of sheep gorging ourselves on propaganda and cognitive dissonance.
yes-----taxes used to PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE----
is moral and constitutional ------as a kid you should have learned the preamble
to the Constitution------"by heart"
That's what the Native American Indians said, but yet the white devils came.
Moonglow
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Since when is taxation theft?I'm not sure if you are serious, or not but guessing you are being facetious. We already have laws against it, but the illegals steal people's identites, and SS#'s to get benefits. Guess what? If they have kids, they get more $$$!
Change the amendment to anyone born in the US has to have at least one parent a US citizen to be recognized as a US citizen.
That would get rid of loads of the illegals sucking off our welfare system. Get rid of the anchor baby bullshit and they would get nothing.
no----because it is inhumane
Is it humane for people to enter countries illegally and FORCE the native people to pay for the invaders kids?
the issue comes down to .......<are you ready? > CHILDREN ---or, even just
SICK people. We of the USA are a moral people------we do not withhold food or
medical care from the hungry and the sick
Government taking the property of peaceful people by force and "redistributing" is "moral" ? Does theft magically become moral when government does it ?
If "We of the USA" were a moral people then we'd hold government to the same moral standards that individuals are held to but we don't, because we're not a "moral people" , we're a bunch of sheep gorging ourselves on propaganda and cognitive dissonance.
BrokeLoser
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Is it humane for people to enter countries illegally and FORCE the native people to pay for the invaders kids?
the issue comes down to .......<are you ready? > CHILDREN ---or, even just
SICK people. We of the USA are a moral people------we do not withhold food or
medical care from the hungry and the sick
Government taking the property of peaceful people by force and "redistributing" is "moral" ? Does theft magically become moral when government does it ?
If "We of the USA" were a moral people then we'd hold government to the same moral standards that individuals are held to but we don't, because we're not a "moral people" , we're a bunch of sheep gorging ourselves on propaganda and cognitive dissonance.
yes-----taxes used to PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE----
is moral and constitutional ------as a kid you should have learned the preamble
to the Constitution------"by heart"
That's what the Native American Indians said, but yet the white devils came.
That’s what the cavemen said, but yet the “Native American Indians came”.
How far back should we go?
Moonglow
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The righties support it also or there would be no funding from the rightist when in power, like now...This is a serious question. Are we the only suckers?
We hear Lefties complain nonstop about how folks don’t get enough free shit here...Are they happy with how we ‘take care’ of the worlds poor?
$20 trillion in debt....do we keep saving the world?
Is it time to strongly consider a constitutional amendment?
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