How ugly could it get? Trump faces echoes of 1929 in coronavirus crisis.

[XponentialChaos]

 

[Lakhota]

‘Hell is coming’ — Bill Ackman has dire warning for Trump, CEOs if drastic measures aren’t taken now

Scary stuff.

 

[bendog]

All right, folks. The Dow is down below 19,000 today. It's dropped over 10 percent so far today.

I'm no longer worried about a recession, I am worried about a Depression. And whether or not you are an opponent of me on this board, I just don't have the spirit to fight with anyone any more.

We are all in this together.

I don't want to be one more in a host of finger pointers. I'm done with that.

May God bless and keep every one of you.

I don't know that the Dow, or any market based investment index, is really a good prognosticative tool of a depression. I think depression of a long term structural problem. Like the 1930s deflation that the gold standard and govt non-interference were ineffective against. But we're not suffering from an economic inability to capitalize markets and promote demand for … stuff.

It seems that for the next 18 mos or so we'll see this virus spiking and falling, and our economy that is based on service industries is going to be trashed. And it won't end until we humans develop some herd immunity from this virus. And we knew that in 2017 that we'd continue facing new, mutating viruses, but our new president is the non-science president, and we were not in the mood to even hear to the contrary. We reduced the our capital investment in watching for pandemics. We reduced our investment in healthcare. All for corporate profit for the 1%, led by the Kochs and Rand Pauls … and McConnells, who sold the bs that "unregulated markets make u free."

I think we'll see Disneyworld again. And Baseball. And restaurants. Cruise Ships .... I pray NOT. LOL

I'm less sure about whether the center of America will demand a consensus that govt's purpose is to serve the middle class, and the 1% exist simply because if they are regulated they are better than socialism. This would not be happening if Eisenhower or Kennedy were potus. They believed politicans didn't know more about science than scientists. And most importantly they believed that when people reasonably and honestly found compromises, that promoted the most benefit.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Yes, we ARE all in this together. And I am in the hopes that this will bring us together as a nation, putting aside our differences for the good of ALL the people as Americans.

They're talking about this going on for 18 months for goodness sake....yeah the worst is yet to come and it's not going to be pretty by a long shot.

But I'm not so sure the rich & famous are going to escape, unscathed but that's just my take on it.


When the going gets tough, the tough get going...….so chin up people, we're Americans, let's start acting like it

We should use this opportunity to invest in America by moving our supply chain back here instead of china

True, but I think that's been in the works already. This virus just put it on the fast track

The faster the better

True......but then again, how is that going to happen if everyone is in quarantine?

 

[Rye Catcher]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

what lies???

Trump claims he always took coronavirus seriously, but the record says otherwise


At a White House briefing on Tuesday, President Trump said no one took the danger of the coronavirus more seriously than he did.

“I’ve always known this is a real — this is a pandemic,” said Trump. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”

He doubled down on Wednesday morning in a tweet.

“I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all,” wrote Trump, referring to the coronavirus with a term that many consider offensive and medical experts discourage. “Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!”

You just proved your false narrative to be false, you idiot.

Huh? Are you stupid, can't comprehend the written word, or just being a jerk?

“I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all,” wrote Trump



You tell me....

Okay, go away.

I don't know if your denial is a lie, or a defense mechanism. Trump is incompetent, that should be easy to see if one opens their eyes and mind. Not only is he incompetent, his inflated ego has harmed too many people in the short time he has been in the office of trust; even when he is advised by experts, he goes with his gut and impulses, another example of what real leaders don't do, they listen to others.

Trump is culpable for the spread of the infection into every corner of the United States; his lies and contradiction of Medical Professionals warnings in the early stages of this crisis exacerbated transmission. Leaders act and tell the truth; trump did neither, he lied; all persons in leadership rolls are paid to prepare for problems, some are so into themselves when they first are presented with a problem or an emergency,they automatically ask themselves, 'how will this problem effect me". That is not the sign of a leader.

 

[Rye Catcher]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

I remember Trumpkins boasting that Trump would undo everything that Obama did, and I commented then that Obama's greatest achievement was the stability of the economy. Well Trump has gutted the ACA, and now, the economy is also in ruins.

Trump did say that he would run the country the way he runs his business. Trump businesses all go broke and the workers get screwed.

They have called in TDS reinforcements..........What are we to do.....

What were the Dem leadership doing when the 1st case of WUHAN FLU .......or Kung Flu entered the country....and how many days after was the Travel Ban to China done.........What were the Dems doing then as well.

Experts wanted testing. What dems wanted, I have no idea.

They were IMPEACHING TRUMP.......In the Senate.......When the ban was done.....they were arguing over witnesses...........

Trump was being Impeached in the Senate as he DID HIS JOB and did the Travel ban which bought us this time........Had he banned more travel from Europe maybe we'd have had more time.....The epicenter of New York came from someone from Iran though I think on that one........

We had an extra month to prepare..............I think that was a good thing........now exponential....or not is up to if the people here.........just chill out for 2 weeks.

Your thinking must be like your writing style, very odd.

 

[bendog]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

I remember Trumpkins boasting that Trump would undo everything that Obama did, and I commented then that Obama's greatest achievement was the stability of the economy. Well Trump has gutted the ACA, and now, the economy is also in ruins.

Trump did say that he would run the country the way he runs his business. Trump businesses all go broke and the workers get screwed.

They have called in TDS reinforcements..........What are we to do.....

What were the Dem leadership doing when the 1st case of WUHAN FLU .......or Kung Flu entered the country....and how many days after was the Travel Ban to China done.........What were the Dems doing then as well.

Experts wanted testing. What dems wanted, I have no idea.

They were IMPEACHING TRUMP.......In the Senate.......When the ban was done.....they were arguing over witnesses...........

Trump was being Impeached in the Senate as he DID HIS JOB and did the Travel ban which bought us this time........Had he banned more travel from Europe maybe we'd have had more time.....The epicenter of New York came from someone from Iran though I think on that one........

We had an extra month to prepare..............I think that was a good thing........now exponential....or not is up to if the people here.........just chill out for 2 weeks.

Ah, but Trump came in with "lock her up." This mania didn't begin with the dems. Or even the gop establishment.

 

[eagle1462010]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

I remember Trumpkins boasting that Trump would undo everything that Obama did, and I commented then that Obama's greatest achievement was the stability of the economy. Well Trump has gutted the ACA, and now, the economy is also in ruins.

Trump did say that he would run the country the way he runs his business. Trump businesses all go broke and the workers get screwed.

They have called in TDS reinforcements..........What are we to do.....

What were the Dem leadership doing when the 1st case of WUHAN FLU .......or Kung Flu entered the country....and how many days after was the Travel Ban to China done.........What were the Dems doing then as well.

Experts wanted testing. What dems wanted, I have no idea.

They were IMPEACHING TRUMP.......In the Senate.......When the ban was done.....they were arguing over witnesses...........

Trump was being Impeached in the Senate as he DID HIS JOB and did the Travel ban which bought us this time........Had he banned more travel from Europe maybe we'd have had more time.....The epicenter of New York came from someone from Iran though I think on that one........

We had an extra month to prepare..............I think that was a good thing........now exponential....or not is up to if the people here.........just chill out for 2 weeks.

Ah, but Trump came in with "lock her up." This mania didn't begin with the dems. Or even the gop establishment.

It was a week after the Travel ban that they even looked at it..........there was no HOOPLA YET.....Press wasn't going on about it......it was NON STOP Trump Impeachment at the get go................The ban bought us time.....and was a very good move......

Would it stop the whole thing..........nope.........evenually they go exponential anyway.

 

[Vastator]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

I remember Trumpkins boasting that Trump would undo everything that Obama did, and I commented then that Obama's greatest achievement was the stability of the economy. Well Trump has gutted the ACA, and now, the economy is also in ruins.

Trump did say that he would run the country the way he runs his business. Trump businesses all go broke and the workers get screwed.

They have called in TDS reinforcements..........What are we to do.....

What were the Dem leadership doing when the 1st case of WUHAN FLU .......or Kung Flu entered the country....and how many days after was the Travel Ban to China done.........What were the Dems doing then as well.

Experts wanted testing. What dems wanted, I have no idea.

They were IMPEACHING TRUMP.......In the Senate.......When the ban was done.....they were arguing over witnesses...........

Trump was being Impeached in the Senate as he DID HIS JOB and did the Travel ban which bought us this time........Had he banned more travel from Europe maybe we'd have had more time.....The epicenter of New York came from someone from Iran though I think on that one........

We had an extra month to prepare..............I think that was a good thing........now exponential....or not is up to if the people here.........just chill out for 2 weeks.

Your thinking must be like your writing style, very odd.

It’s the lack of pictures you find odd. The literate don’t need them...

 

[Mac-7]

Yes, we ARE all in this together. And I am in the hopes that this will bring us together as a nation, putting aside our differences for the good of ALL the people as Americans.

They're talking about this going on for 18 months for goodness sake....yeah the worst is yet to come and it's not going to be pretty by a long shot.

But I'm not so sure the rich & famous are going to escape, unscathed but that's just my take on it.


When the going gets tough, the tough get going...….so chin up people, we're Americans, let's start acting like it

We should use this opportunity to invest in America by moving our supply chain back here instead of china

True, but I think that's been in the works already. This virus just put it on the fast track

The faster the better

True......but then again, how is that going to happen if everyone is in quarantine?

It cant

thats why we have to bite the bullet and return to normal life sooner rather than later

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Yes, we ARE all in this together. And I am in the hopes that this will bring us together as a nation, putting aside our differences for the good of ALL the people as Americans.

They're talking about this going on for 18 months for goodness sake....yeah the worst is yet to come and it's not going to be pretty by a long shot.

But I'm not so sure the rich & famous are going to escape, unscathed but that's just my take on it.


When the going gets tough, the tough get going...….so chin up people, we're Americans, let's start acting like it

We should use this opportunity to invest in America by moving our supply chain back here instead of china

True, but I think that's been in the works already. This virus just put it on the fast track

The faster the better

True......but then again, how is that going to happen if everyone is in quarantine?

It cant

thats why we have to bite the bullet and return to normal life sooner rather than later

true enough......but good luck with that actually happening. Still too much panic

 

[lennypartiv]

Deal with it like moms deal with chicken pox. Have everyone get it at the same time and get it over with.

 

[edward37]

I do think things could be better than they are IF only those who recovered are politicized This doom and gloom shit all the time is a little too much

 

[BS Filter]

Everyone chill. Shop as you normally would. People that are clearing the shelves and not leaving something for their neighbors should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I'm just glad that we have a leader who knows what's truly important at a time like this.

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He's not wrong.



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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

‘Hell is coming’ — Bill Ackman has dire warning for Trump, CEOs if drastic measures aren’t taken now

Scary stuff.

Begging for handouts. Fuck Corporate Welfare!!!

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[Hutch Starskey]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

what lies???

Count them yourself dolt Too many for me to post

Post the ones you believe is harming the U.S. and let others discuss them with you...

The market tanks every time he opens his mouth at a daily briefing. There obviously is no confidence in what he is saying.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

We knew the lying was always an issue. Somehow, for some reason, so many accepted it, just shook it off, only smirking at it.

Why, because the stock market was good? No one is certain why, the lies were accepted, but they were.

Now we’ve been lied to ( repeatedly as usual) about the virus.
Test dates, test availability,the number of tests, all to make it “appear better than it is”.

These lies are expensive. They will cost lives, many, lives, big beautiful lives.... yes, I’m using his own language to mock him about this very serious situation.
....and ironically, it’s going to cost money. AMERICA is now in a recession. This virus has crushed the world economy.

He didn’t cause the virus. But the lies are hurting US. Really hurting US all.
Let’s stop accepting, allowing the lies.
Stay safe my fellow Americans. Even republicans

what lies???

Count them yourself dolt Too many for me to post

Post the ones you believe is harming the U.S. and let others discuss them with you...

The market tanks every time he opens his mouth at a daily briefing. There obviously is no confidence in what he is saying.

And Edward was smart enough to do as I requested and yet you could not follow Edward and do the same but instead just gave your opinion.

So again post what you consider a lie and let others debate you on it or are you afraid to discuss and prefer just to offer your opinion and declare it a fact?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

"“The hotel industry and the restaurant industry will go bankrupt first, Boeing is on the brink, Boeing will not survive without a government bailout,” Ackman said. “Capitalism does not work in an 18-month shutdown, capitalism can work in a 30-day shutdown.”

That's why we have bankruptcy courts.

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[22lcidw]

‘Hell is coming’ — Bill Ackman has dire warning for Trump, CEOs if drastic measures aren’t taken now

Scary stuff.

Most of us do not want to die. We are due though. To many people getting into others faces and to many people messing with others. A lot of bad memories by a percentage of the population whether they are right or wrong. Read the forums here. The herd is due for a thinning. And the American herd is the most slovenly of all. We are ripe for it.