httpNavajo families receive electricity for first time

[Defiant1]

Navajo families receive electricity for first time



It's shocking that Americans have been living all this time without electricity. Yes, it was costly to put it in, but our government sends far more than $5 million dollars to other countries. It should first go to people in our own country.

that is what happens when you surrender you rights to the government

on the promises that they will take care of your every need

Every need? Electricity is not 'every need.' Tell me, does your house have electricity? Did you pay to have it put in? Are you taking responsibility for it to be supplied to you? It is supplied to you and you just assume it should be. So, your comment is completely hypocritical.

When you are out house hunting or apartment hunting, do you put places that don't have electricity on your list?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Navajo families receive electricity for first time

Electricity is a basic necessity in most people's lives but one that is considered a luxury on portions of the Navajo Nation. Across the 27,000 square-mile reservation that extends into Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, an estimated 15,000 homes do not have electricity, said Deenise Becenti, a spokeswoman for the Navajo Tribal Utility Authority.

Some Navajos prefer not to have electricity to maintain a traditional lifestyle. Others live miles apart, making it too expensive to connect each home, Becenti said.

"We can't ask families to live closer together, because they've lived on these lands for generations," she said.

The project in LeChee, a small community just outside of Page, came as the result of a mix of funding from federal grants, the tribal utility authority and the owners of the Navajo Generating Station run by the Salt River Project. The $4.8 million project that began in 2012 with a goal of connecting 63 homes is scheduled to be complete next year.

It's shocking that Americans have been living all this time without electricity. Yes, it was costly to put it in, but our government sends far more than $5 million dollars to other countries. It should first go to people in our own country.

That's what happens when you're dependent on government.

 

[jon_berzerk]

that is what happens when you surrender you rights to the government

on the promises that they will take care of your every need

Every need? Electricity is not 'every need.' Tell me, does your house have electricity? Did you pay to have it put in? Are you taking responsibility for it to be supplied to you? It is supplied to you and you just assume it should be. So, your comment is completely hypocritical.

When you are out house hunting or apartment hunting, do you put places that don't have electricity on your list?

thanks for the catch somehow i missed that absurd comment

--LOL

 

[hjmick]

That reminds me...


My great grandfather was an electrician, worked for the government, bringing electricity to the tribes back in the early days. He was tasked with wiring lights in the outhouses. He was the first person to wire a head for a reservation...





Old joke...

 

[Esmeralda]

Every need? Electricity is not 'every need.' Tell me, does your house have electricity? Did you pay to have it put in? Are you taking responsibility for it to be supplied to you? It is supplied to you and you just assume it should be. So, your comment is completely hypocritical.

When you are out house hunting or apartment hunting, do you put places that don't have electricity on your list?

thanks for the catch somehow i missed that absurd comment

--LOL

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers, all over the country. The reason the reservations are not is because they are not dependent on the government for that. So your snide remarke about the people on the reservation are incorrect as well as hypocritical. You are the ones dependent on the government for being hooked up to utilities.

The program that hooked these people up to electricity was paid for by other sources, only partially through government grants.

 

[jon_berzerk]

When you are out house hunting or apartment hunting, do you put places that don't have electricity on your list?

thanks for the catch somehow i missed that absurd comment

--LOL

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers, all over the country. The reason the reservations are not is because they are not dependent on the government for that. So your snide remarke about the people on the reservation are incorrect as well as hypocritical. You are the ones dependent on the government for being hooked up to utilities.

The program that hooked these people up to electricity was paid for by other sources, only partially through government grants.

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers

no they are not

 

[Esmeralda]

thanks for the catch somehow i missed that absurd comment

--LOL

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers, all over the country. The reason the reservations are not is because they are not dependent on the government for that. So your snide remarke about the people on the reservation are incorrect as well as hypocritical. You are the ones dependent on the government for being hooked up to utilities.

The program that hooked these people up to electricity was paid for by other sources, only partially through government grants.

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers

no they are not

Yes they are. I'm not talking about utlitiy providers, I'm talking about the fact you are connect to the utility sources. On one level, the utulity providers are responsible for your being hooked up, but the bottom line is that it is the government that makes it happen. Utility companies don't operate without the cooperation of the government and without your tax dollars providing a big percentage of the costs of putting up power lines or underground pipe networks for sewage going out and fresh water going in. Taxes pay for these things as well as highways, subways, light rails and just about everything else. You are dependent on the government far more than people on the reservation are.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers, all over the country. The reason the reservations are not is because they are not dependent on the government for that. So your snide remarke about the people on the reservation are incorrect as well as hypocritical. You are the ones dependent on the government for being hooked up to utilities.

The program that hooked these people up to electricity was paid for by other sources, only partially through government grants.

Everyone in this country is dependent on local,state and federal governments for being connected to all of their utility providers

no they are not

Yes they are. I'm not talking about utlitiy providers, I'm talking about the fact you are connect to the utility sources. On one level, the utulity providers are responsible for your being hooked up, but the bottom line is that it is the government that makes it happen. Utility companies don't operate without the cooperation of the government and without your tax dollars providing a big percentage of the costs of putting up power lines or underground pipe networks for sewage going out and fresh water going in.

bs

government doesnt make it happen

--LOL

 

[Esmeralda]

CHAPTER 4. GOVERNMENT’S ROLE IN THE ELECTRICITY SECTOR

Yes, it is all regulated and controlled by the government. Bottom line, the government makes it happen. You are dependent on the government for being connected to any utilities as well as having highways, mass transit, parks, etc. Without government regulations and controls, you would have nothing. Much of your tax dollars go to 'making it happen' via the government. You are dependent on the government. If the government wasn't involved, the work might be cheaper, but it would also be shoddy and undependable. The government is a co-partner with every utility provider in the Nation.

 

[jon_berzerk]

CHAPTER 4. GOVERNMENT’S ROLE IN THE ELECTRICITY SECTOR

Yes, it is all regulated and controlled by the government. Bottom line, the government makes it happen. You are dependent on the government for being connected to any utilities as well as having highways, mass transit, parks, etc. Without government regulations and controls, you would have nothing. Much of your tax dollars go to 'making it happen' via the government. You are dependent on the government. If the government wasn't involved, the work might be cheaper, but it would also be shoddy and undependable. The government is a co-partner with every utility provider in the Nation.

the government does not make it happen

as for the governments involvement

it is rules and regulations that name less face less

folks unaccountable to the public write

which results in ever rising energy costs

only under a socialist setting can a shoddy provider

continue to provide serves when they are not accountable to the people

 

[Esmeralda]

CHAPTER 4. GOVERNMENT’S ROLE IN THE ELECTRICITY SECTOR

Yes, it is all regulated and controlled by the government. Bottom line, the government makes it happen. You are dependent on the government for being connected to any utilities as well as having highways, mass transit, parks, etc. Without government regulations and controls, you would have nothing. Much of your tax dollars go to 'making it happen' via the government. You are dependent on the government. If the government wasn't involved, the work might be cheaper, but it would also be shoddy and undependable. The government is a co-partner with every utility provider in the Nation.

the government does not make it happen

as for the governments involvement

it is rules and regulations that name less face less

folks unaccountable to the public write

which results in ever rising energy costs

only under a socialist setting can a shoddy provider

continue to provide serves when they are not accountable to the people

America has excellent first world utilities because of the government's partnership with utilitiy providers. You don't have anything shoddy because you have government regulations. Go live in a 3rd world country, then you will understand and appreciate what you have. You think EU countries are socialist, but they also have first world provision of utilities. You really don't have any idea how things work.

In any case, all of this is off topic and you have hijacked the thread. Please stay on topic or stop posting.

 

[Gracie]

Good morning.

Meanwhile, as you guys are arguing over electricity and who does what, I will focus on the people on the rez and begin my own collection of items for this winter so a few don't die.

Do carry on.

 

[Esmeralda]

This is the subject of the OP: It's shocking that Americans have been living all this time without electricity. Yes, it was costly to put it in, but our government sends far more than $5 million dollars to other countries. It should first go to people in our own country.

 

[Iceweasel]

They aren't allowed to leave the reservation? I thought that was over and done with?

 

[DiamondDave]

Navajo families receive electricity for first time



It's shocking that Americans have been living all this time without electricity. Yes, it was costly to put it in, but our government sends far more than $5 million dollars to other countries. It should first go to people in our own country.

that is what happens when you surrender you rights to the government

on the promises that they will take care of your every need

Every need? Electricity is not 'every need.' Tell me, does your house have electricity? Did you pay to have it put in? Are you taking responsibility for it to be supplied to you? It is supplied to you and you just assume it should be. So, your comment is completely hypocritical.

Actually.. you DO pay to have it put in... it is part of the cost of building a house... when a new neighborhood goes in, the developer PAYS to bring it to the grid.. and that cost is passed on... you buy that house subsequently down the line, that is all taken in to consideration with the price

When my wife's uncle bought a cabin, it had no electric.. and for it to be run to the cabin, he would have to pay... if not, he would have to pay for the generator and fuel

 

[Missourian]

Navajo families receive electricity for first time



It's shocking that Americans have been living all this time without electricity. Yes, it was costly to put it in, but our government sends far more than $5 million dollars to other countries. It should first go to people in our own country.

that is what happens when you surrender you rights to the government

on the promises that they will take care of your every need

Every need? Electricity is not 'every need.' Tell me, does your house have electricity? Did you pay to have it put in? Are you taking responsibility for it to be supplied to you? It is supplied to you and you just assume it should be. So, your comment is completely hypocritical.

Yes, and yes.

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=New York,Times][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Missouri’s electric cooperatives are non-profit power suppliers owned by their members. Each cooperative is governed by a board of directors elected from the membership."

Missouri's Electric Cooperatives | Association of Missouri Electric Cooperatives - www.amec.coop

We got together and did it ourselves, we own it, we maintain it, we control it.

I understand that this concept is lost on city folk. Y'all continually expect and require someone else to do things for you.


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[Missourian]

I'd buy a book written by these folks on how to survive without electricity in a mordern civilization.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I'd buy a book written by these folks on how to survive without electricity in a mordern civilization.

You can always make your own electricity with something as simple as burning wood, not to mention solar and/or wind power.