Huckabee Backs Denying Abortion To 10-Year-Old Raped By Stepfather

[Mertex]

Does the step-father want the baby? (-:

Because that is going to make all the difference, right?

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[koshergrl]

You are as dumb as a box of rocks. What we are saying is that an 11 year old girl should not be forced to carry a rape baby to term. It's bad enough that she was raped, it's worse that she was forced to carry for 9 months. Whether she should give the baby up for adoption is not the issue, you irrational nutcase.

Childbirth is more likely to be difficult and dangerous for an adolescent than for an adult. Babies born to very young mothers are much more likely to die in the first year of life. Young adolescents do not yet have a fully developed pelvis. Pregnancy for them can result in serious consequences, such as eclampsia, premature labour, prolonged labour, obstructed labour, fistula, anaemia (thin blood) or infant and/or maternal death.

The younger the mother is, the greater the risk to her and her baby. The risk of maternal death related to pregnancy and childbirth for adolescent girls between 15 and 19 years of age accounts for some 70,000 deaths each year.

Facts for Life - Timing Births

You should be locked up in a mental hospital for thinking this girl should have been forced to carry to term.

Also, giving up a baby for adoption is not like going to the movies. It is extremely emotionally painful and the woman suffers that pain for her entire life. Forcing her to carry the fetus to term then forcing her to give it up for adoption, wondering her whole life about that child, suffering emotional pain for giving it up: yeah, let's just pile on and pile on the punishment for this raped child--she deserves it for being raped by her stepfather.

Women are just as traumatized by abortion. Knowing they killed their baby. Maybe they themselves were adopted... Feeling guilty that they were spared yet killed their own child. Wondering if they will be able to carry another... Being told that due to their previous abortion they can't...etc

They're actually more traumatized. Except in cases of abduction, war, being caught in a third world country when you give birth...birth doesn't cause PTSD. Even bad births rarely result in it. Abortion does result in ptsd in 100 percent of non-sociopath abortion victims...aka "mothers".

And just like women who have live births. Many women that get an abortion suffer from Postpartum Depression.

In other words - it doesn't matter.

There you have it...women don't matter to Lakota.

 

[idb]

You have to wonder about a group of men who want to see ten year olds illegally aborted and denied first rate medical care.

Who's denying a 10 yr old first rate medical care? Or are you making shit up again?

An abortion isn't "medical care". It's abortion, unless there's a medical reason for it to take place which ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS.

Do really believe that REPUBLICAN WOMEN in this country would let their 10 year old daughters give birth to a baby that could well kill her. Do you really BELIEVE that REPUBLICAN men in this country would support their10 year old daughters giving birth?

You pull out the stats of all the 10 year old girls that have been killed by childbirth. I'll wait.

I want you and Mike Huckabee and all his followers to head to Paraguay. Who knows maybe you can find a 5 to 8 year old little girl that can give birth. This would really light up the candles on your NO exception stance.

Then you can throw her in a rape and incest factory, and she would be able to give you babies well into her 40's. Wouldn't that be great!

My daughter is a Nurse Practitioner, that works with pregnant women and in pediatrics--(you know where most 10 years old's still go.) 10 year old girls are at extreme high risk, even 12 years are.

But I imagine a 12 year old girl is too OLD for you.

Really to support this one--you would have to be a Pedifile or crazzier than shit.

One minute after being born is too old for the right wing loons.
The moment you're out you're on your own.

 

[idb]

The point is that under the current law the girl couldn't get an abortion, so their arguments are moot

They're arguing that illegal abortion is less risky for a pregnant ten year old than ccare provided by real doctors. They argue for killing women and girls instead of providing them with care, support, and legal protection.

No one is arguing for an ILLEGAL abortion - what part of that do you fail to get through your head? The reason it went to court was to try to get a LEGAL abortion. Please, try to at least stick to rational claims in your rant.

You loons are arguing for an abortion for a little girl in a country where it's illegal.

You don't read to well do you? If the court had allowed the abortion it would have been a LEGAL one.

You're arguing that she should get an abortion.

That would be ILLEGAL in Paraguay.

You really are a special kinda stupid, Coyote. Look at you blowing up the site with your fanatical support for child abuse and abortions.

The thread is about the principle of denying a 10 year old child an abortion as a consequence of rape.
It could be in any country...forget Paraguay.
The point is that Huckabee would support a 10 year old child being forced to give birth in the US as well...or anywhere else in the world.
The discussion is about the principle espoused by Huckabee...not whether it's legal or not.

I must be drunk...I can't believe I even bothered to explain this to you.

 

[oreo]

The grandmother of this LITTLE GIRL wanted her to have an abortion. The state of Paraquay stepped in and said no. This is what Huckabee and his followers want here.

Huckabee and his followers are the monsters in this particular instance. Now they have started a war on LITTLE GIRLS. They don't believe rape and incest victims have any rights to their own lives much less show respect for their adult family members decisions on this.

Anything--any risk is acceptable to them--as long as a baby comes out. Be assured that if this little girl had died, Mike Huckabee would have never mentioned this case. The mental anguish and HORROR that this little girl went through is unimaginable.

My daughter is a Nurse Practitioner who has over 20 years experience in pediatrics. 10 years old's still go to Pediatricians not OBGYN clinics. They are at extremely high risk of death for trying to give birth.

I WANT HUCKABEE OFF OF FOX NEWS NOW-AND FOREVER. I WANT HIM TO DROP OUT OF THIS RACE IMMEDIATELY!

The people who agree with Mike Huckabee are either Pedophiles themselves--or BAT SHIT CRAZY.

 

[koshergrl]

The grandmother of this LITTLE GIRL wanted her to have an abortion. The state of Paraquay stepped in and said no. This is what Huckabee and his followers want here.

Huckabee and his followers are the monsters in this particular instance. Now they have started a war on LITTLE GIRLS. They don't believe rape and incest victims have any rights to their own lives much less show respect for their adult family members decisions on this.

Anything--any risk is acceptable to them--as long as a baby comes out. Be assured that if this little girl had died, Mike Huckabee would have never mentioned this case. The mental anguish and HORROR that this little girl went through is unimaginable.

My daughter is a Nurse Practitioner who has over 20 years experience in pediatrics. 10 years old's still go to Pediatricians not OBGYN clinics. They are at extremely high risk of death for trying to give birth.

I WANT HUCKABEE OFF OF FOX NEWS NOW-AND FOREVER. I WANT HIM TO DROP OUT OF THIS RACE IMMEDIATELY!

The people who agree with Mike Huckabee are either Pedophiles themselves--or BAT SHIT CRAZY.

There is an extremely high risk of death for abortion for little kids too.

Incidentally, you sound batshit crazy yourself, loon.

 

[jillian]

i1. You cannot put the fetus in another woman's body to carry it to term. And this child of 10 isn't a woman anyway.
2. You are so concerned about the fetus: why no concern as to what having to carry this fetus to term will do the the poor, raped 10 year old child? Physically and emotionally it will damage her beyond measure.
3. I know what giving up a child for adoption does to women, and it is not an easy thing: it is something she has to live with her entire life. It can be extraordinarily painful.
4. Why do you all want to punish this poor 10 year old for being raped? That's the real question: why are you all so eager to so profoundly punish this 10 year old child who was raped by a relative? It's just sick.
5. How quientessentiallly hypocritical to say 'God bless you always,' in the same breath as proposing that a 10 year old rape victim should be forced to live the hell of having the baby of the rapist. Unbelievable.

Holy shit, you really are an idiot. You think you can remove a fetus and let some other woman carry it? I'm at a loss for words. lol

That's disturbingly ghoulish.

Wow. You people make it sound someone who is pregnant is going to be stuck with the child forever when you know that isn't true. Where is it written that a person has to keep their child once it has been born? Oh yeah. Yee haw! That's right! No where! Also, why should a perfectly healthy child be done away with because of the way that it was created? To me, every child that can be saved should be saved. If you do not want the baby, give it up so that those who want kids of their own but can not produce any can have a shot at getting the child for themselves. How would you like it if you were killed because of the way that you were conceived? To me, abortion is and will always be a sheer and severe act of selfishness not to mention murder and if you people can not see that, then obviously I am not the one who has issues. Yes what happened to the girl was awful, but aborting the child that she got pregnant with would only be adding the baby to the list of victims and it would be the girl who make such a thing happen by getting rid of the baby which in my opinion would only make her a follower. Just because she was raped doesn't mean that she has to continue the negative domino affect by killing the child that she got pregnant with. The man who raped her is selfish for doing such a thing to anyone, but doing away with the child by killing it would only make her just as selfish as her rapist if not more. To me, she should take control of the situation that she is in by making sure that another person does not pay for what happened to her like the baby that she is pregnant with for example.

God bless you and her and her baby always!!!

Holly

P.S. Another thing that she could do is her best to make sure that her rapist doesn't feast on anyone else by doing all that she can to get him put away for good.

You are as dumb as a box of rocks. What we are saying is that an 11 year old girl should not be forced to carry a rape baby to term. It's bad enough that she was raped, it's worse that she was forced to carry for 9 months. Whether she should give the baby up for adoption is not the issue, you irrational nutcase.

Childbirth is more likely to be difficult and dangerous for an adolescent than for an adult. Babies born to very young mothers are much more likely to die in the first year of life. Young adolescents do not yet have a fully developed pelvis. Pregnancy for them can result in serious consequences, such as eclampsia, premature labour, prolonged labour, obstructed labour, fistula, anaemia (thin blood) or infant and/or maternal death.

The younger the mother is, the greater the risk to her and her baby. The risk of maternal death related to pregnancy and childbirth for adolescent girls between 15 and 19 years of age accounts for some 70,000 deaths each year.

Facts for Life - Timing Births

You should be locked up in a mental hospital for thinking this girl should have been forced to carry to term.

Also, giving up a baby for adoption is not like going to the movies. It is extremely emotionally painful and the woman suffers that pain for her entire life. Forcing her to carry the fetus to term then forcing her to give it up for adoption, wondering her whole life about that child, suffering emotional pain for giving it up: yeah, let's just pile on and pile on the punishment for this raped child--she deserves it for being raped by her stepfather.

Women are just as traumatized by abortion. Knowing they killed their baby. Maybe they themselves were adopted... Feeling guilty that they were spared yet killed their own child. Wondering if they will be able to carry another... Being told that due to their previous abortion they can't...etc

They're actually more traumatized. Except in cases of abduction, war, being caught in a third world country when you give birth...birth doesn't cause PTSD. Even bad births rarely result in it. Abortion does result in ptsd in 100 percent of non-sociopath abortion victims...aka "mothers".

People who can barely manage their own lives really shouldn't make decisions for other people.

 

[Carla_Danger]

The grandmother of this LITTLE GIRL wanted her to have an abortion. The state of Paraquay stepped in and said no. This is what Huckabee and his followers want here.

Huckabee and his followers are the monsters in this particular instance. Now they have started a war on LITTLE GIRLS. They don't believe rape and incest victims have any rights to their own lives much less show respect for their adult family members decisions on this.

Anything--any risk is acceptable to them--as long as a baby comes out. Be assured that if this little girl had died, Mike Huckabee would have never mentioned this case. The mental anguish and HORROR that this little girl went through is unimaginable.

My daughter is a Nurse Practitioner who has over 20 years experience in pediatrics. 10 years old's still go to Pediatricians not OBGYN clinics. They are at extremely high risk of death for trying to give birth.

I WANT HUCKABEE OFF OF FOX NEWS NOW-AND FOREVER. I WANT HIM TO DROP OUT OF THIS RACE IMMEDIATELY!

The people who agree with Mike Huckabee are either Pedophiles themselves--or BAT SHIT CRAZY.

There is an extremely high risk of death for abortion for little kids too.

Incidentally, you sound batshit crazy yourself, loon.

You can repeat this lie over and over, and it's still not going to make it true. You are the batshit crazy loon in this case.

Abortion safer than giving birth study Reuters

 

[Lakhota]

Also, giving up a baby for adoption is not like going to the movies. It is extremely emotionally painful and the woman suffers that pain for her entire life. Forcing her to carry the fetus to term then forcing her to give it up for adoption, wondering her whole life about that child, suffering emotional pain for giving it up: yeah, let's just pile on and pile on the punishment for this raped child--she deserves it for being raped by her stepfather.

Women are just as traumatized by abortion. Knowing they killed their baby. Maybe they themselves were adopted... Feeling guilty that they were spared yet killed their own child. Wondering if they will be able to carry another... Being told that due to their previous abortion they can't...etc

They're actually more traumatized. Except in cases of abduction, war, being caught in a third world country when you give birth...birth doesn't cause PTSD. Even bad births rarely result in it. Abortion does result in ptsd in 100 percent of non-sociopath abortion victims...aka "mothers".

And just like women who have live births. Many women that get an abortion suffer from Postpartum Depression.

In other words - it doesn't matter.

There you have it...women don't matter to Lakota.

Well, if they can get Postpartum Depression either way - what difference does it make?

 

[Political Junky]

i1. You cannot put the fetus in another woman's body to carry it to term. And this child of 10 isn't a woman anyway.
2. You are so concerned about the fetus: why no concern as to what having to carry this fetus to term will do the the poor, raped 10 year old child? Physically and emotionally it will damage her beyond measure.
3. I know what giving up a child for adoption does to women, and it is not an easy thing: it is something she has to live with her entire life. It can be extraordinarily painful.
4. Why do you all want to punish this poor 10 year old for being raped? That's the real question: why are you all so eager to so profoundly punish this 10 year old child who was raped by a relative? It's just sick.
5. How quientessentiallly hypocritical to say 'God bless you always,' in the same breath as proposing that a 10 year old rape victim should be forced to live the hell of having the baby of the rapist. Unbelievable.

Holy shit, you really are an idiot. You think you can remove a fetus and let some other woman carry it? I'm at a loss for words. lol

That's disturbingly ghoulish.

Wow. You people make it sound someone who is pregnant is going to be stuck with the child forever when you know that isn't true. Where is it written that a person has to keep their child once it has been born? Oh yeah. Yee haw! That's right! No where! Also, why should a perfectly healthy child be done away with because of the way that it was created? To me, every child that can be saved should be saved. If you do not want the baby, give it up so that those who want kids of their own but can not produce any can have a shot at getting the child for themselves. How would you like it if you were killed because of the way that you were conceived? To me, abortion is and will always be a sheer and severe act of selfishness not to mention murder and if you people can not see that, then obviously I am not the one who has issues. Yes what happened to the girl was awful, but aborting the child that she got pregnant with would only be adding the baby to the list of victims and it would be the girl who make such a thing happen by getting rid of the baby which in my opinion would only make her a follower. Just because she was raped doesn't mean that she has to continue the negative domino affect by killing the child that she got pregnant with. The man who raped her is selfish for doing such a thing to anyone, but doing away with the child by killing it would only make her just as selfish as her rapist if not more. To me, she should take control of the situation that she is in by making sure that another person does not pay for what happened to her like the baby that she is pregnant with for example.

God bless you and her and her baby always!!!

Holly

P.S. Another thing that she could do is her best to make sure that her rapist doesn't feast on anyone else by doing all that she can to get him put away for good.

You are as dumb as a box of rocks. What we are saying is that an 11 year old girl should not be forced to carry a rape baby to term. It's bad enough that she was raped, it's worse that she was forced to carry for 9 months. Whether she should give the baby up for adoption is not the issue, you irrational nutcase.

Childbirth is more likely to be difficult and dangerous for an adolescent than for an adult. Babies born to very young mothers are much more likely to die in the first year of life. Young adolescents do not yet have a fully developed pelvis. Pregnancy for them can result in serious consequences, such as eclampsia, premature labour, prolonged labour, obstructed labour, fistula, anaemia (thin blood) or infant and/or maternal death.

The younger the mother is, the greater the risk to her and her baby. The risk of maternal death related to pregnancy and childbirth for adolescent girls between 15 and 19 years of age accounts for some 70,000 deaths each year.

Facts for Life - Timing Births

You should be locked up in a mental hospital for thinking this girl should have been forced to carry to term.

Also, giving up a baby for adoption is not like going to the movies. It is extremely emotionally painful and the woman suffers that pain for her entire life. Forcing her to carry the fetus to term then forcing her to give it up for adoption, wondering her whole life about that child, suffering emotional pain for giving it up: yeah, let's just pile on and pile on the punishment for this raped child--she deserves it for being raped by her stepfather.

Women are just as traumatized by abortion. Knowing they killed their baby. Maybe they themselves were adopted... Feeling guilty that they were spared yet killed their own child. Wondering if they will be able to carry another... Being told that due to their previous abortion they can't...etc

I am pro life. I also recognize that most women only feel profound relief when they have an abortion. Not all. Most. Routine abortion very very seldom results in an inability to conceive. Which is why women have multiple abortions. Multiple abortions, can result in an inability to conceive.

Link?

 

[Lakhota]

Like George Carlin said about Conservatives: "If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked".

 

[Lakhota]

This thread topic should be among the first questions asked in the next GOP presidential debate.

 

[BlueGin]

Most common major complications of abortion:

Greater risk of Ectopic pregnancies
Sterility
Infection
Excessive bleeding
Embolisms
Perforation of the uterus
Convulsions
Hemorrhage
Permanent cervical injury
Endotoxic shock
Complications due to anesthesia

And your "credible" source is...?

Send women and children to butchers without researching complications do you?

Here is one of many sources.

Abortion Some Medical Facts

 

[Dana7360]

GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee supports Paraguay's decision to deny an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim, he revealed in an interview Sunday.

In an appearance on CNN's "State of the Union," the former Arkansas governor argued that the Paraguayan government's refusal to allow an abortion for the now-11-year-old, who gave birth last week after being raped by her stepfather, prevented a second tragedy.

"Let nobody be misled, a 10-year-old girl being raped is horrible, but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?" he asked. He added later, "When I think about one horror, I also think about the possibilities that exist and I just don't want to think that somehow we discounted a human life ... Let's not compound the tragedy by taking yet another life."

Paraguay law allows abortion only “in very rare cases when it’s deemed necessary to save a woman’s life,” ThinkProgress noted.

Huckabee Backs Denying Abortion To 10-Year-Old Raped By Stepfather

Wow, a 10-year-old raped by her stepfather doesn't even qualify for an abortion in Huckabee's mind. That is barbaric! I can't imagine someone like him as president.

The only way that she could have given birth and not either died or her reproductive system be torn apart is by C section. Which is why it was performed. Which is a huge red flag that she never should have been forced to carry that pregnancy to term.

So she's forced to carry a pregnancy from rape she doesn't want to carry. Then she's forced to have surgery she probably didn't want to have but had to have it to save her own life.

That is sick.

No 11 year old child is capable of raising a child. She can't provide for the child. She's a child herself.

No child that young should ever be forced to endure a second rape by the government to be forced to give birth to a child that is the result of the rape.

There is no justification for such cruelty.

 

[koshergrl]

GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee supports Paraguay's decision to deny an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim, he revealed in an interview Sunday.

In an appearance on CNN's "State of the Union," the former Arkansas governor argued that the Paraguayan government's refusal to allow an abortion for the now-11-year-old, who gave birth last week after being raped by her stepfather, prevented a second tragedy.

"Let nobody be misled, a 10-year-old girl being raped is horrible, but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?" he asked. He added later, "When I think about one horror, I also think about the possibilities that exist and I just don't want to think that somehow we discounted a human life ... Let's not compound the tragedy by taking yet another life."

Paraguay law allows abortion only “in very rare cases when it’s deemed necessary to save a woman’s life,” ThinkProgress noted.

Huckabee Backs Denying Abortion To 10-Year-Old Raped By Stepfather

Wow, a 10-year-old raped by her stepfather doesn't even qualify for an abortion in Huckabee's mind. That is barbaric! I can't imagine someone like him as president.

The only way that she could have given birth and not either died or her reproductive system be torn apart is by C section. Which is why it was performed. Which is a huge red flag that she never should have been forced to carry that pregnancy to term.

So she's forced to carry a pregnancy from rape she doesn't want to carry. Then she's forced to have surgery she probably didn't want to have but had to have it to save her own life.

That is sick.

No 11 year old child is capable of raising a child. She can't provide for the child. She's a child herself.

No child that young should ever be forced to endure a second rape by the government to be forced to give birth to a child that is the result of the rape.

There is no justification for such cruelty.

Nobody proposes that she raise the child. And abortion is true rape, by the abortionist.

That was easy.

 

[koshergrl]

Like George Carlin said about Conservatives: "If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked".

Oh yay, another carlin reference. That's awesome. You come off as so intelligent when you continually cite a dead comedian as if it has some relevance.

 

[BlueGin]

As an aside.

PP apparently has quite the racket going.

Abortions cause a greater risk of Breast cancer.

Treat breast cancer they help create and sell baby parts.

 

[koshergrl]

As an aside.

PP apparently has quite the racket going.

Abortions cause a greater risk of Breast cancer.

Treat breast cancer they help create and sell baby parts.

They don't treat breast cancer. They just pretend to. The big $$ is in late term abortion, so that's what they focus on.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Most common major complications of abortion:

Greater risk of Ectopic pregnancies
Sterility
Infection
Excessive bleeding
Embolisms
Perforation of the uterus
Convulsions
Hemorrhage
Permanent cervical injury
Endotoxic shock
Complications due to anesthesia

And your "credible" source is...?

Need you ask?

 

[Carla_Danger]

Most common major complications of abortion:

Greater risk of Ectopic pregnancies
Sterility
Infection
Excessive bleeding
Embolisms
Perforation of the uterus
Convulsions
Hemorrhage
Permanent cervical injury
Endotoxic shock
Complications due to anesthesia

And your "credible" source is...?

Send women and children to butchers without researching complications do you?

Here is one of many sources.

Abortion Some Medical Facts

Click on their "sources" page. They're all from the 80's and 90's.

The National Right to Life.