Huge wins for the right wing in EU

[Meathead]

Bullshit. The fact remains that they are fleeing from poverty and war. And just like a bunch of right wing racist clowns can take advantage of manipulating a population it happens in these other countries. But, sure I got you. Libya never happened. Iraq never happened. Afghanistan isn't happening. Syria isn't happening. Lebanon never happened and currently isn't happening. Mali? Nothing happened there. The land grabbing in Africa isn't happening. The Anuak genocide in Gambella isn't happening. Absolutely nothing is going down or has been going down around Israel.

What's you point? All these things are happening. These people come from violent and impoverished shit holes which proves my point: Africa and the Middle East are abject failures of their own interior and foreign policies, horrible leadership and hopelessly disorganized. The only place in those regions which does not send their refuse is Israel.

My point is exactly the same as it was before. If you are having comprehension problems then reread my prior posts.

What's the point if you have none other than agreeing shit holes are shit holes, which really isn't much of a point?

 

[bedowin62]

Your argument is nebulous at best, but if you are trying to imply that western foreign policy is responsible for the wars and poverty of those shit holes, then indeed you should support right wing parties like Golden Dawn which have no interest whatsoever in meddling there.

Anyway, your premise is false. All these places were and are war-torn and/or impoverished shit holes mostly because they are African and/or Muslim which are incapable of creating wealth and living in peace with each other.

Bullshit. The fact remains that they are fleeing from poverty and war. And just like a bunch of right wing racist clowns can take advantage of manipulating a population it happens in these other countries. But, sure I got you. Libya never happened. Iraq never happened. Afghanistan isn't happening. Syria isn't happening. Lebanon never happened and currently isn't happening. Mali? Nothing happened there. The land grabbing in Africa isn't happening. The Anuak genocide in Gambella isn't happening. Absolutely nothing is going down or has been going down around Israel.

I think talking to him is a waste of breathe, he wouldn't listen even if the sky was falling.

lol; it's funny watching the angry loser left fall apart!

 

[bedowin62]

Hitler couldnt get "right-wing racist clowns" to go slaughter milions in the name of fascism; he had to call his Party the SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY to get millions of Germans to rush out and stuff people into ovens

idiots and hypocrites

 

[Disir]

What's you point? All these things are happening. These people come from violent and impoverished shit holes which proves my point: Africa and the Middle East are abject failures of their own interior and foreign policies, horrible leadership and hopelessly disorganized. The only place in those regions which does not send their refuse is Israel.

My point is exactly the same as it was before. If you are having comprehension problems then reread my prior posts.

What's the point if you have none other than agreeing shit holes are shit holes, which really isn't much of a point?

No, sweetie.

First, Greece isn't the only country that has this problem. The recent influx in the past decade has been via Turkey. This is where they are coming from. Since they are not the only country with this problem, this problem is extensive and the causes are known then solving it requires those at the top having to make a choice.

 

[Disir]

Your argument is nebulous at best, but if you are trying to imply that western foreign policy is responsible for the wars and poverty of those shit holes, then indeed you should support right wing parties like Golden Dawn which have no interest whatsoever in meddling there.

Anyway, your premise is false. All these places were and are war-torn and/or impoverished shit holes mostly because they are African and/or Muslim which are incapable of creating wealth and living in peace with each other.

Bullshit. The fact remains that they are fleeing from poverty and war. And just like a bunch of right wing racist clowns can take advantage of manipulating a population it happens in these other countries. But, sure I got you. Libya never happened. Iraq never happened. Afghanistan isn't happening. Syria isn't happening. Lebanon never happened and currently isn't happening. Mali? Nothing happened there. The land grabbing in Africa isn't happening. The Anuak genocide in Gambella isn't happening. Absolutely nothing is going down or has been going down around Israel.

I think talking to him is a waste of breath, he wouldn't listen even if the sky was falling.

It isn't that he isn't listening. It's that his entire purpose is to circle jerk. It's why he is here.

 

[Meathead]

Bullshit. The fact remains that they are fleeing from poverty and war. And just like a bunch of right wing racist clowns can take advantage of manipulating a population it happens in these other countries. But, sure I got you. Libya never happened. Iraq never happened. Afghanistan isn't happening. Syria isn't happening. Lebanon never happened and currently isn't happening. Mali? Nothing happened there. The land grabbing in Africa isn't happening. The Anuak genocide in Gambella isn't happening. Absolutely nothing is going down or has been going down around Israel.

I think talking to him is a waste of breathe, he wouldn't listen even if the sky was falling.

lol; it's funny watching the angry loser left fall apart!

I get your point, but maybe it's sad too. They can't seem to formulate a reasonable argument. Alas, dumbing down is not funny.

 

[SAYIT]

No, sweetie.

First, Greece isn't the only country that has this problem. The recent influx in the past decade has been via Turkey. This is where they are coming from. Since they are not the only country with this problem, this problem is extensive and the causes are known then solving it requires those at the top having to make a choice.

What fucking difference does it have where they come from? Greek foreign policy has almost zero effect on the shit holes from whence they came nor on Turkey whose borders are far too porous to make much of a difference anyway.

What makes you think Greeks give a shit if Greece is not the only country with this problem? The country is already beset with epic problems without the abjectly impoverished refuse of shit holes.

I am a Greek citizen and do not support Golden Dawn, but I certainly understand their stance on illegal immigration. Greeks are not yet pussified and give little heed to political correctness.

Take note: I didn't say that Greek foreign policy was influential in this arena. You're attempting to create an argument where none exists. They are not the only country with this issue and if you look at where they are coming from (the Middle East and Africa) and the reasons for fleeing (war/poverty) then you stop the tide by ............not fucking making war. Pretty simple shit.

The "war" that creates that flood of refugees isn't actually a war but rather an often violent, centuries old diff of opinion between Sunnis and Shia within the Religion of Peace. There is nothing we in the West can do but hope they manage to work it out themselves.

 

[hipeter924]

I think talking to him is a waste of breathe, he wouldn't listen even if the sky was falling.

lol; it's funny watching the angry loser left fall apart!

I get your point, but maybe it's sad too. They can't seem to formulate a reasonable argument. Alas, dumbing down is not funny.

^Has never climbed out of a cave and heard of autocorrect.

I haven't been 'dumbed down' as I was never educated in America, by OECD stats on average most OECD nations have higher scores than Americans. All that matters to you is 'owning' people or believing you do, that doesn't matter to me. Go for popularism, doesn't mean I care what you think either.

 

[bedowin62]

lol; it's funny watching the angry loser left fall apart!

I get your point, but maybe it's sad too. They can't seem to formulate a reasonable argument. Alas, dumbing down is not funny.

^Has never climbed out of a cave and heard of autocorrect.

I haven't been 'dumbed down' as I was never educated in America, by OECD stats on average most OECD nations have higher scores than Americans. All that matters to you is 'owning' people or believing you do, that doesn't matter to me. Go for popularism, doesn't mean I care what you think either.

correcting spelling errors will sometimes be a substitute for people trying to defend PROGRESSIVE FAILURES.
yea capitalism isnt perfect; corporations can be "greedy"
but you are seeing gripe after gripe from losers who have outspent record spending under Bush in 4 years; and failed in just about everything they've tried EXCEPT making those "greedy" corporations richer by the day


idiots and hypocrites

 

[bedowin62]

the extent of the pendulum swinging to the Right in the EU is a function of how far it swung to the Left before that.

people are revolting against what they have become

europe is falling apart. it is being taken over by people who went there for a better life but dont give a crap about assimilating. the native people's of europe in some instances have negative population growth; they are literally dying off.

 

[Disir]

What fucking difference does it have where they come from? Greek foreign policy has almost zero effect on the shit holes from whence they came nor on Turkey whose borders are far too porous to make much of a difference anyway.

What makes you think Greeks give a shit if Greece is not the only country with this problem? The country is already beset with epic problems without the abjectly impoverished refuse of shit holes.

I am a Greek citizen and do not support Golden Dawn, but I certainly understand their stance on illegal immigration. Greeks are not yet pussified and give little heed to political correctness.

Take note: I didn't say that Greek foreign policy was influential in this arena. You're attempting to create an argument where none exists. They are not the only country with this issue and if you look at where they are coming from (the Middle East and Africa) and the reasons for fleeing (war/poverty) then you stop the tide by ............not fucking making war. Pretty simple shit.

The "war" that creates that flood of refugees isn't actually a war but rather an often violent, centuries old diff of opinion between Sunnis and Shia within the Religion of Peace. There is nothing we in the West can do but hope they manage to work it out themselves.

In part, but those are smaller players and they are easily exploited. The bigger game are those countries with more power. Unless we pretend that isn't happening.

 

[Meathead]

lol; it's funny watching the angry loser left fall apart!

I get your point, but maybe it's sad too. They can't seem to formulate a reasonable argument. Alas, dumbing down is not funny.

^Has never climbed out of a cave and heard of autocorrect.

I haven't been 'dumbed down' as I was never educated in America, by OECD stats on average most OECD nations have higher scores than Americans. All that matters to you is 'owning' people or believing you do, that doesn't matter to me. Go for popularism, doesn't mean I care what you think either.

I realized that you were not US educated and you are most likely a whinging pom who reads the Guardian. That certainly(and obviously) doesn't mean you are not "dumbed down". Dumbing down is clearly not exclusive to the US, as I've met a lot of Brits who have the IQs of houseplants. Most of them are left wingers who reference the Guardian as if it were scripture.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Here's a perfect example of why a political party like UKIP rocked the vote. EU rules are looney tune. Brits paying child benefits to families not living in Britain.

I mean freaking come on here.

Child benefit worth £30million paid by Britain to families across the EU but Cameron admits it is 'impossible' to stop it

UK taxpayer funds payments to 20,400 families with 34,268 children

Almost two-thirds sent to Poland, followed by Ireland, Lithuania and Latvia

David Cameron says no-one he has met thinks the benefits are 'sensible'

But Prime Minister warns that under existing EU rules it cannot be blocked

Tory MP Andrew Rosindell says claims should be blocked for five years


And this isn't even the tip of the iceberg of what is wrong with the EU.

Child benefit worth £30m paid by Britain to families across EU | Mail Online

It is classic 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.'

The economy sucks, some Nazis pick up seats in an election, and you morons wet your panties with excitement? What a bunch of utter dumbfucks.

While I don't mind seeing how Confirmation Bias has crippled the analytic abilities of libards like yourself, I do mind being caught off guard with your stupid comments.

Now I have to clean the tea off my monitor, you fucking ass hole.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Take note: I didn't say that Greek foreign policy was influential in this arena. You're attempting to create an argument where none exists. They are not the only country with this issue and if you look at where they are coming from (the Middle East and Africa) and the reasons for fleeing (war/poverty) then you stop the tide by ............not fucking making war. Pretty simple shit.

Your argument is nebulous at best, but if you are trying to imply that western foreign policy is responsible for the wars and poverty of those shit holes, then indeed you should support right wing parties like Golden Dawn which have no interest whatsoever in meddling there.

Anyway, your premise is false. All these places were and are war-torn and/or impoverished shit holes mostly because they are African and/or Muslim which are incapable of creating wealth and living in peace with each other.

Bullshit. The fact remains that they are fleeing from poverty and war. And just like a bunch of right wing racist clowns can take advantage of manipulating a population it happens in these other countries. But, sure I got you. Libya never happened. Iraq never happened. Afghanistan isn't happening. Syria isn't happening. Lebanon never happened and currently isn't happening. Mali? Nothing happened there. The land grabbing in Africa isn't happening. The Anuak genocide in Gambella isn't happening. Absolutely nothing is going down or has been going down around Israel.

Bullshit, they are fleeing libtard or Jihadist regimes.

 

[JimBowie1958]

One has a leader with a swastika tattoo, one wants to rid his entire country of Muslims, another has a founder who suggested releasing the Ebola virus on migrants. This is the class of 2014, the parties set to enter the European Parliament as part of the Union's most eurosceptic, far right, anti-immigrant intake of all time.
...this year is the first time openly neo-Nazi parties will sit in Brussels as representatives of their nations."

European Elections: 9 Scariest Far-Right Parties Now In The European Parliament

In UK politics, UKIP is BNP lite, they are still racist, homophobic, and xenophobic, just they use more neutral language to attract the middle class. The BNP is for the poor and easily influenced, they have ties with Neo Nazis and are just as xenophobic, homophobic and racist as them.

In France, Le Pen's National Front is basically a nationalist party that believe French imperialism was justified. They hate America (see it as corrupting French society), love Russia, hate gays, and see the European Union as a group of nations out to destroy the French language and identity.

They are all dangerous, and from time to time look like they might get real power, but usually they go high one election then dive dramatically the next election.

Like most fringe parties they occasionally garner enough dissatisfied/disenfranchised votes to raise their profile

Not in the case of the National Front or UKIP, unless you are so stupid you think having the most votes of any party is merely raising ones profile.

 

[JimBowie1958]

In UK politics, UKIP is BNP lite, they are still racist, homophobic, and xenophobic, just they use more neutral language to attract the middle class. .

Yeah UKIP opposes the leftwing socialists therefore they are racists.

Arent you ignoramuses ever going to tire of pounding that one nail, idiot?

They are wannabe fascists, so sure they oppose 'socialists'. But the Conservative Party are about as 'socialist' as your own Republican Party, and the Labour Party is more like a group of moderate Democrats. You have no clue whatsoever about UK politics, if you believe UKIP is anything more than a protest vote, and their devout supporters anything more than a xenophobic fringe of UK society.

lol, you pretend to not understand my statement as though that proves anything other than that you are a cretin.

Yes, UKIP opposes the Conservative party for various reasons and they are not the same reasons that they oppose the socialists. That does not mean that they do not oppose the socialists as well, nor that the socialists will refrain from calling them racists because that is the stupid sort of thing you libtards do these days.

 

[JimBowie1958]

the extent of the pendulum swinging to the Right in the EU is a function of how far it swung to the Left before that.

The problem with that, you see, is that some of those parties, once they win, they do not just let the pendulum return to its own natural rhythm. They kill it.

 

[NoNukes]

the extent of the pendulum swinging to the Right in the EU is a function of how far it swung to the Left before that.

people are revolting against what they have become

europe is falling apart. it is being taken over by people who went there for a better life but dont give a crap about assimilating. the native people's of europe in some instances have negative population growth; they are literally dying off.

As evidenced in the Netherlands, it will probably not last long.

 

[SAYIT]

Take note: I didn't say that Greek foreign policy was influential in this arena. You're attempting to create an argument where none exists. They are not the only country with this issue and if you look at where they are coming from (the Middle East and Africa) and the reasons for fleeing (war/poverty) then you stop the tide by ............not fucking making war. Pretty simple shit.

The "war" that creates that flood of refugees isn't actually a war but rather an often violent, centuries old diff of opinion between Sunnis and Shia within the Religion of Peace. There is nothing we in the West can do but hope they manage to work it out themselves.

In part, but those are smaller players and they are easily exploited. The bigger game are those countries with more power. Unless we pretend that isn't happening.

Shia vs. Sunni violence is a "smaller players" dynamic in the Mideast? Evidently denial is SOP in your world. Centuries of conflict have left a deep and lasting schism that fuels tribal tit-4-tat which often engulfs whole countries or regions.

"Over the years, Sunni–Shia relations have been marked by both cooperation and conflict. Sectarian violence persists to this day from Pakistan to Yemen and is a major element of friction throughout the Middle East. Tensions between communities have intensified during power struggles, such as the Bahraini uprising, the Iraq War, and most recently the Syrian Civil War."

Shia?Sunni relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SAYIT]

In UK politics, UKIP is BNP lite, they are still racist, homophobic, and xenophobic, just they use more neutral language to attract the middle class. The BNP is for the poor and easily influenced, they have ties with Neo Nazis and are just as xenophobic, homophobic and racist as them.

In France, Le Pen's National Front is basically a nationalist party that believe French imperialism was justified. They hate America (see it as corrupting French society), love Russia, hate gays, and see the European Union as a group of nations out to destroy the French language and identity.

They are all dangerous, and from time to time look like they might get real power, but usually they go high one election then dive dramatically the next election.

Like most fringe parties they occasionally garner enough dissatisfied/disenfranchised votes to raise their profile

Not in the case of the National Front or UKIP, unless you are so stupid you think having the most votes of any party is merely raising ones profile.

I see. So we disagree on the significance of UKIP's election results and therefore I must be stupid. Now there's a powerful argument. Carry on, Genius.