Hugo Chavez Dies, Will They Hire "Fake Criers&Weepers" For The Funeral?

[Uncensored2008]

If the accursed liberals all die off, who would these sanctimoneous Republicans use to be better than?

I dunno, but I'd sure like to find out.....

 

[Synthaholic]

WOW!.....this thread is fully exposing those up here who were already suspected of being socialist loving, anti-american twits.

No surprise though, to say the least, that they're ALL loony lil' Obamabots.

May your minority viewpoint keep you warm at night.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why? because I just care of what is happening in the world.That's why.

If you really care, then you need to have the curiosity and courage to learn what the Empire of America has done in the rest of the world. Learn what Ron Paul is talking about when he explains 'blow back'. Learn the history of the CIA. Learn why President Kennedy started the Alliance for Progress because America was the most hated nation in our OWN hemisphere.

until they need something......

There are always strings attached. Every country who becomes a U.S. partner, or receives U.S. aid, gives a portion of their sovereignty that we would never, ourselves, tolerate. Especially the U.S. Rightwing. Hell, they are freaked about imaginary U.N. helicopters - do you think they would ever put up with another country having military bases in America? I wouldn't, and I'm a Liberal. Yet, we act all indignant if another sovereign country doesn't want us getting a foot in the door of their country. They have seen the results.

This is definitely where I agree 100% with Ron Paul: we should mind our own business and get out of a lot of these countries.

 

[peach174]

We had shortages of gas that pushed the price over $4 under Bush. Remember Poor Sarah shrieking "drill, baby, drill"?

Where's the link to Chavez having a $2 billion fortune?

That was because of hurricane Katrina which closed down the gulf and the damages to the ports.

Link to Chavez billions
Analyst estimates Chávez?s family fortune at around $2 billion

Peach. You linked to a .tumblr page, which is like linking to a facebook page. Then when you click the link in the story title, it takes you to a 'page not found'.

I mean, if you're not even gonna try . . .

Well hells bells Synth ! All you have to do is type in Chavez fortune left to family and you can link to dozens and dozens of reports.

 

[Bfgrn]

Why? because I just care of what is happening in the world.That's why.

If you really care, then you need to have the curiosity and courage to learn what the Empire of America has done in the rest of the world. Learn what Ron Paul is talking about when he explains 'blow back'. Learn the history of the CIA. Learn why President Kennedy started the Alliance for Progress because America was the most hated nation in our OWN hemisphere.

until they need something......

Yea, then they turned to the Soviet Union.

 

[Pogo]

It is not a lie.
There was a shortage of gas because of a strike that they had, since been resolved.
Food shortages
Food Shortages In Venezuela: Plenty of Oil, Not Enough Food

We had shortages of gas that pushed the price over $4 under Bush. Remember Poor Sarah shrieking "drill, baby, drill"?

Where's the link to Chavez having a $2 billion fortune?

That was because of hurricane Katrina which closed down the gulf and the damages to the ports.

Link to Chavez billions
Analyst estimates Chávez?s family fortune at around $2 billion

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong. That $4 gas was the summer of 2008, hence the reference to the Presidential campaign going on at the time. Katrina was 2005. It pushed pump prices from $2.28 to near $3.

 

[Bfgrn]

you know anyone who has ever been there Joe?......i know 3 during his time....they all had the same basic opinion about the place.....they all wanted out after just a few days there...... and one couple using a time share passed themselves off as Cubans.....and they still wanted out of there......and these two were no RW's......

Here is someone who lived there and has visited many times.

Howard Steven Friedman: Goodbye Chavez, America Never Knew You

News of Hugo Chavez's death is spreading rapidly. In America, we can anticipate a large collection of articles noting his activities, articles that are nearly all a product of our American/corporate view of the world.

These American articles will be mostly negative, a one-sided portrayal of a complex leader who was beloved by much of his country, admired by large parts of the world, but nearly always portrayed in the American media as a one-dimensional character.

American articles will talk about when Chavez led an attempted coup, they will talk about his friendship with Castro, Ahmadinejad, Putin and other leaders, and they will reference his famous "devil" quote about George Bush but they will steer away from hints of Chavez's accomplishments.

These articles will not mention the fact that Venezuela has made strong steps in education and health. The expected number of years of education rose from 10.5 years in 2000 to 14.2 years by 2011, no doubt driven by the Missions that Chavez championed. Venezuela's life expectancy increased from 72.4 years to 74.4 years during that same time period.

These articles might mention that Chavez pushed through legislation to change the presidential term limits possibly even accusing him of being authoritarian. These articles will probably not mention that Chavez has been democratically elected with popular margins and higher turnout rates than we have seen in the U.S. in decades.

These articles will talk about poor prison conditions in Venezuela but not mention that Chavez pardoned those who attempted to overthrow his democratically elected government in 2002.

These articles will mention that his government benefited from a rise in oil prices but are not likely to mention that he used those inflated oil revenues to support citizens of many nations in need, including Americans in need of low-cost heating oil.

so its 3 for me.....people i know.....1 for you some writer....one of the people i know has been to the Country from the nineties to now.....dozens of times on business.....and sometimes stays for weeks......he does not think Chavez was such a wonderful guy.....i will take his word over some writer in the paper.....

That's your prerogative. You have 3 people, I have 1.7 million Americans: Approximately 300,000 households, 220 participating shelters and 240 Native American tribal communities who receive 100 gallons of free heating oil every year from Hugo Chavez, CITGO and the people of Venezuela.

"It is people and organizations like yours that God uses as a blessing to those in need and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Because of you, we are able to keep warm during these cold winter nights." - Tonya Wilson

"Four days ago, I ran out of oil. Two days later, I received my voucher. It made me cry because now I can continue to recover from a very serious surgery and not worry about how to stay warm." - Karin Paine

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Thoat $4 gas was the summer of 2008, hence the reference to the Presidential campaign going on at the time. Katrina was 2005.

In economics, fuel price as a commodity is an "inflation spur." Because fuel is used at every point of the supply chain, spikes in fuel costs affect every level of the supply chain. In a healthy economy, such spurs result in inflation. In 07/08, we were on the cusp of a bubble. The DOW was artificially inflated and housing was already collapsing. The spike had the effect of derailing the economy and throwing the USA into a severe recession.

Fast forward to 2013, we again have a bubble. The DOW is unjustifiably high due to heavy investment by the Federal Reserve, consumer spending is in the toilet, and again we have fuel costs at historic highs.

Any guess at what might happen to our house of cards? Hurricane level gusts are on hand, think it will stand?

 

[Pogo]

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Thoat $4 gas was the summer of 2008, hence the reference to the Presidential campaign going on at the time. Katrina was 2005.

In economics, fuel price as a commodity is an "inflation spur." Because fuel is used at every point of the supply chain, spikes in fuel costs affect every level of the supply chain. In a healthy economy, such spurs result in inflation. In 07/08, we were on the cusp of a bubble. The DOW was artificially inflated and housing was already collapsing. The spike had the effect of derailing the economy and throwing the USA into a severe recession.

Fast forward to 2013, we again have a bubble. The DOW is unjustifiably high due to heavy investment by the Federal Reserve, consumer spending is in the toilet, and again we have fuel costs at historic highs.

Any guess at what might happen to our house of cards? Hurricane level gusts are on hand, think it will stand?

uh, ooookkaaaaaay.... what any of that's got to do with conflating events three years apart eludes me.

 

[Uncensored2008]

uh, ooookkaaaaaay.... what any of that's got to do with conflating events three years apart eludes me.

Just pointing out that these gas spikes have some nasty consequences.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I hope you get the therapy you need.

I would consider taking a softball bat to someone as stupid as you EXCEPTIONALLY-effective therapy. You up for it, joey?

Fuck off, you little pussy.

I wasn't talking to you, dickhead. If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you. Now toddle back to your playpen, bitch.

 

[peach174]

We had shortages of gas that pushed the price over $4 under Bush. Remember Poor Sarah shrieking "drill, baby, drill"?

Where's the link to Chavez having a $2 billion fortune?

That was because of hurricane Katrina which closed down the gulf and the damages to the ports.

Link to Chavez billions
Analyst estimates Chávez?s family fortune at around $2 billion

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong. That $4 gas was the summer of 2008, hence the reference to the Presidential campaign going on at the time. Katrina was 2005. It pushed pump prices from $2.28 to near $3.

Yeah gas went up and Down during Bush. It was 1.85 when Obama took office.
Under Obama it has doubled.
Have gas prices doubled under Obama? - The Washington Post

Gas Prices ? Bush vs. Obama

Not much difference between the lightweight progressive (Bush) and the heavyweight progressive (Obama)
But at least the gas price went down during the 8 years of Bush.
Under Obama it has remained high all 4 years. Obama said it himself that his energy plan was going to keep gas prices high.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If you really care, then you need to have the curiosity and courage to learn what the Empire of America has done in the rest of the world. Learn what Ron Paul is talking about when he explains 'blow back'. Learn the history of the CIA. Learn why President Kennedy started the Alliance for Progress because America was the most hated nation in our OWN hemisphere.

until they need something......

There are always strings attached. Every country who becomes a U.S. partner, or receives U.S. aid, gives a portion of their sovereignty that we would never, ourselves, tolerate. Especially the U.S. Rightwing. Hell, they are freaked about imaginary U.N. helicopters - do you think they would ever put up with another country having military bases in America? I wouldn't, and I'm a Liberal. Yet, we act all indignant if another sovereign country doesn't want us getting a foot in the door of their country. They have seen the results.

This is definitely where I agree 100% with Ron Paul: we should mind our own business and get out of a lot of these countries.

i am not talking about the strings.....i am talking about how they hate us until they need us because some other Country does not have the resources to help them....and then after we do help them.....they spit in our faces....

 

[Harry Dresden]

If you really care, then you need to have the curiosity and courage to learn what the Empire of America has done in the rest of the world. Learn what Ron Paul is talking about when he explains 'blow back'. Learn the history of the CIA. Learn why President Kennedy started the Alliance for Progress because America was the most hated nation in our OWN hemisphere.

until they need something......

Yea, then they turned to the Soviet Union.

yea like they were any different.....and i am sure the leaders of those Countries knew that....so then they had to decide who was the so called "lessor of two evils"......im sure this Country was picked many a time over them.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Here is someone who lived there and has visited many times.

Howard Steven Friedman: Goodbye Chavez, America Never Knew You

News of Hugo Chavez's death is spreading rapidly. In America, we can anticipate a large collection of articles noting his activities, articles that are nearly all a product of our American/corporate view of the world.

These American articles will be mostly negative, a one-sided portrayal of a complex leader who was beloved by much of his country, admired by large parts of the world, but nearly always portrayed in the American media as a one-dimensional character.

American articles will talk about when Chavez led an attempted coup, they will talk about his friendship with Castro, Ahmadinejad, Putin and other leaders, and they will reference his famous "devil" quote about George Bush but they will steer away from hints of Chavez's accomplishments.

These articles will not mention the fact that Venezuela has made strong steps in education and health. The expected number of years of education rose from 10.5 years in 2000 to 14.2 years by 2011, no doubt driven by the Missions that Chavez championed. Venezuela's life expectancy increased from 72.4 years to 74.4 years during that same time period.

These articles might mention that Chavez pushed through legislation to change the presidential term limits possibly even accusing him of being authoritarian. These articles will probably not mention that Chavez has been democratically elected with popular margins and higher turnout rates than we have seen in the U.S. in decades.

These articles will talk about poor prison conditions in Venezuela but not mention that Chavez pardoned those who attempted to overthrow his democratically elected government in 2002.

These articles will mention that his government benefited from a rise in oil prices but are not likely to mention that he used those inflated oil revenues to support citizens of many nations in need, including Americans in need of low-cost heating oil.

so its 3 for me.....people i know.....1 for you some writer....one of the people i know has been to the Country from the nineties to now.....dozens of times on business.....and sometimes stays for weeks......he does not think Chavez was such a wonderful guy.....i will take his word over some writer in the paper.....

That's your prerogative. You have 3 people, I have 1.7 million Americans: Approximately 300,000 households, 220 participating shelters and 240 Native American tribal communities who receive 100 gallons of free heating oil every year from Hugo Chavez, CITGO and the people of Venezuela.

"It is people and organizations like yours that God uses as a blessing to those in need and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Because of you, we are able to keep warm during these cold winter nights." - Tonya Wilson

"Four days ago, I ran out of oil. Two days later, I received my voucher. It made me cry because now I can continue to recover from a very serious surgery and not worry about how to stay warm." - Karin Paine

yea all those Americans who would have taken the heating oil from Satan himself if that was the choice they had......get real Bfgrn......you throw some Desperate person a bone, they will love you until that bone is no longer there......and im sure they may not give a fuck if they know you dont give a fuck about them....but i thought this was supposed to be about those who live in his country,not ours?......at least that's what i was talking about.....why aren't you....

 

[Pogo]

That was because of hurricane Katrina which closed down the gulf and the damages to the ports.

Link to Chavez billions
Analyst estimates Chávez?s family fortune at around $2 billion

Bzzzzzzzt. Wrong. That $4 gas was the summer of 2008, hence the reference to the Presidential campaign going on at the time. Katrina was 2005. It pushed pump prices from $2.28 to near $3.

Yeah gas went up and Down during Bush. It was 1.85 when Obama took office.
Under Obama it has doubled.
Have gas prices doubled under Obama? - The Washington Post

Gas Prices ? Bush vs. Obama

Not much difference between the lightweight progressive (Bush) and the heavyweight progressive (Obama)
But at least the gas price went down during the 8 years of Bush.
Under Obama it has remained high all 4 years. Obama said it himself that his energy plan was going to keep gas prices high.

Oh please. Presidents do not influence, and certainly don't set, gas prices. Period. They couldn't do that if they wanted to.
Whatever lying Mitt Romney did about that in the 2012 campaign was just pandering to the ignorant. Oil prices were then, and still are, established on the international market. OPEC has more influence on that than any POTUS.

(/offtopic)

 

[Harry Dresden]

Chaez is dead, now what? We can take the high road and offer sympathy to the people of Venezuela for the loss of their leader elected by the people, or we can be callous and self righteous ugly Americans as represented by many who posted above, further alienating others with whom we share the earth.

you do that Wry.....i will give my "sympathy" to the other half of the Country who are probably just as distraught.....

 

[Bfgrn]

so its 3 for me.....people i know.....1 for you some writer....one of the people i know has been to the Country from the nineties to now.....dozens of times on business.....and sometimes stays for weeks......he does not think Chavez was such a wonderful guy.....i will take his word over some writer in the paper.....

That's your prerogative. You have 3 people, I have 1.7 million Americans: Approximately 300,000 households, 220 participating shelters and 240 Native American tribal communities who receive 100 gallons of free heating oil every year from Hugo Chavez, CITGO and the people of Venezuela.

"It is people and organizations like yours that God uses as a blessing to those in need and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Because of you, we are able to keep warm during these cold winter nights." - Tonya Wilson

"Four days ago, I ran out of oil. Two days later, I received my voucher. It made me cry because now I can continue to recover from a very serious surgery and not worry about how to stay warm." - Karin Paine

yea all those Americans who would have taken the heating oil from Satan himself if that was the choice they had......get real Bfgrn......you throw some Desperate person a bone, they will love you until that bone is no longer there......and im sure they may not give a fuck if they know you dont give a fuck about them....but i thought this was supposed to be about those who live in his country,not ours?......at least that's what i was talking about.....why aren't you....

I already did talk about the people of his country. The facts don't lie. Life improved in all measurable ways for the people of Venezuela since Chavez became president.

 

[kidrocks]

Looks like Hugo Chavez is the first fatality of the Sequester. And like they did with Chin Wung Ill, the Government will need to hire about 200 locals to "Pretend Cry" at the funeral. Shouldn't be that hard, just give all of them "1/2 an Onion" and they will cry for an hour.
So what are your thoughts about the "Unexpected Death" of The president's best buddy?

Well they hired them ("Fake Criers&Weepers") for Ronald Reagan's funeral, didn't they? After all, Reagan was an actor.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That's your prerogative. You have 3 people, I have 1.7 million Americans: Approximately 300,000 households, 220 participating shelters and 240 Native American tribal communities who receive 100 gallons of free heating oil every year from Hugo Chavez, CITGO and the people of Venezuela.

"It is people and organizations like yours that God uses as a blessing to those in need and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Because of you, we are able to keep warm during these cold winter nights." - Tonya Wilson

"Four days ago, I ran out of oil. Two days later, I received my voucher. It made me cry because now I can continue to recover from a very serious surgery and not worry about how to stay warm." - Karin Paine

yea all those Americans who would have taken the heating oil from Satan himself if that was the choice they had......get real Bfgrn......you throw some Desperate person a bone, they will love you until that bone is no longer there......and im sure they may not give a fuck if they know you dont give a fuck about them....but i thought this was supposed to be about those who live in his country,not ours?......at least that's what i was talking about.....why aren't you....

I already did talk about the people of his country. The facts don't lie. Life improved in all measurable ways for the people of Venezuela since Chavez became president.

i guess its what you believe and who is telling you the "facts" that dont lie.....right?.....if the atmosphere there has the people not trusting one another because of FEAR.....and MANY people don't seem happy with this wonderful life this guy brought them and you can feel it....then yea, if you want to say he has improved their quality of life....go for it.....