Human Caused Global Warming

[SSDD]

Is SSDD dreaming about offing everyone that he classifies as undesirable again? It might be creepy if it wasn't so comical.

Deniers raving about phantom socialists confirms to everyone how denialism is part of a loony political cult. Those who can talk about science, do. Those who can't, those are deniers.

So sayeth the crybaby....pardon me while I fart in your general direction.

 

[MrDVS1]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the ammount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

Global warming is here, what caused it is a moot point, it's time to deal with surviving it, prepare or perish, as usual!

 

[jc456]

Is SSDD dreaming about offing everyone that he classifies as undesirable again? It might be creepy if it wasn't so comical.

Deniers raving about phantom socialists confirms to everyone how denialism is part of a loony political cult. Those who can talk about science, do. Those who can't, those are deniers.

You're a liar and do what liars do best, lie some more.

 

[jc456]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the ammount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

Global warming is here, what caused it is a moot point, it's time to deal with surviving it, prepare or perish, as usual!

hahahaahhaahahhahaha. You don't even know what global warming looks like. holy c_rap is this funny.

 

[Crick]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

 

[jc456]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

So show those videos of the experiment? However, if you use the mythbuster one, remember what has been pointed out, they didn't show adding 120PPM. They filled the chamber up. Just sayin, you have no link, no video, no anything as proof of an experiment that proves your lousy point! You are challenged Jiminie, or will you lie like your wooden puppet?

 

[Crick]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

So show those videos of the experiment? However, if you use the mythbuster one, remember what has been pointed out, they didn't show adding 120PPM. They filled the chamber up. Just sayin, you have no link, no video, no anything as proof of an experiment that proves your lousy point! You are challenged Jiminie, or will you lie like your wooden puppet?

They state quite clearly that they are recreating current atmospheric conditions. You think it proper to assume they are lying because that's the only defense you have against the truth.

 

[jc456]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

So show those videos of the experiment? However, if you use the mythbuster one, remember what has been pointed out, they didn't show adding 120PPM. They filled the chamber up. Just sayin, you have no link, no video, no anything as proof of an experiment that proves your lousy point! You are challenged Jiminie, or will you lie like your wooden puppet?

They state quite clearly that they are recreating current atmospheric conditions. You think it proper to assume they are lying because that's the only defense you have against the truth.

who is 'they'?

I believe scientist are lying because they have no experiment to validate their hypothesis. And because I want to see that you resort to vulgarity and insults. So childish of you!!!!

 

[SSDD]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

So show those videos of the experiment? However, if you use the mythbuster one, remember what has been pointed out, they didn't show adding 120PPM. They filled the chamber up. Just sayin, you have no link, no video, no anything as proof of an experiment that proves your lousy point! You are challenged Jiminie, or will you lie like your wooden puppet?

They state quite clearly that they are recreating current atmospheric conditions. You think it proper to assume they are lying because that's the only defense you have against the truth.

Tell me....what are current atmospheric conditions...how precisely does energy move through the atmosphere? ...what precisely are the total feedbacks positive and negative? If climate science can't answer all those questions then they are modeling a best guess of current atmospheric conditions

 

[Wyld Kard]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

jc456,
You have all gotten off the track. The point isn't who should do what to who. The point is that human caused global warming is real. I think it was SSDD who came up with the best denier argument against it by talking about how much CO2 the earth naturally produces. As weak as that argument was.

However you want to look at it, the ammount of CO2 humans are responsable for IS having an impact. Maybe it's because the CO2 humans are responsable for comes out in a more concentrated and localized form.

The point is that human caused global warming is real.

Yeah, sure it is.

Idiots like yourself who keep saying it's real DOES NOT make it true.

 

[cultsmasher]

In my thread "Will You Vote Republican," somebody who goes by Vigilante sent me a reply that seems to refute the whole human caused global warming thing. But I thought my reply is something that you would all like to weigh in on.

Well, some of us anyway.

Each year, all the volcanoes on earth put out an estimated 200 MILLION tons of CO2. Though some of this of course goes directly into the oceans. Humans on the other hand are responsible for an estimated 26.8 BILLION tons per year. Also, anybody who wishes to can look up a graph of the amount of CO2 humans have put out since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Lately, human generated CO2 appears to be going up at a rate that is beyond exponential. There is a good chance that temperatures will follow suit.

The problem you will find around here is that the deniers here will argue that no one can prove the greenhouse effect is real. This takes a number of variations. We have those who think CO2 causes some warming but it is a trivial component of the observed warming and essentially irrelevant. We have others who continue to claim that no experiment has ever shown CO2 causing a temperature increase despite having been shown text and video describing several experiments that, of course, show precisely that. We have others who've begun to argue that adding CO2 to the atmosphere actually causes the planet to cool.

We get analogous arguments about the acidification of the oceans: that the amount of CO2 humans have released couldn't possibly have had a significant effect on the ocean's pH to those that argue that CO2 in solution forms not carbonic acid but sodium bicarbonate.

This past summer, temperatures were fairly cool around where I live. But from what I have seen, if there are cooler temperatures in one area, it means that temperatures are hotter in another area of the earth.

It's really not possible to judge the Earth's climate from an isolated location for a limited amount of time.

I have a sister who is a human caused global warming denier. She points that in the far distant past, atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now. Which is true. Around one hundred million years ago or so, they were much higher. Apparently because of the breakup of the continents, things have been cooling down over a long time. Causing many ice ages. But as far as I have seen, this isn't something that happened a very long time ago. When global CO2 levels were much higher. We are in uncharted territory. No doubt there is much more methane in places like frozen tundra or shallow seas than there was in the far past. And methane is 20 times better at causing global warming than CO2. Just how much warming will it take for that to start getting released in ever greater quantity. It's hard to say. But there is one thing I know for sure. Most people don't really care what happens. As long as it happens to someone else.

I'm not sure what all that was supposed to mean. But... the predominant cause of warming and cooling in the Earth's geological past has been the Milankovitch orbital cycles. When changes in the amount of sunlight the Earth receives take place, it tends to change the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. That has shown itself, at least in studies of the last 22,000 years, to enhance warming and cooling periods. Warming is begun initially by orbital changes but after only a few hundred years, greenhouse warming from increased CO2 becomes the dominant driver. And the extremes in the Earth's past - all of the non-catastrophic changes - took place immensely more slowly than they are taking place today. The same changes in CO2 levels and temperatures that humans have seen in the last 150 years could easily have taken 150,000 years in the pre-human past.

So show those videos of the experiment? However, if you use the mythbuster one, remember what has been pointed out, they didn't show adding 120PPM. They filled the chamber up. Just sayin, you have no link, no video, no anything as proof of an experiment that proves your lousy point! You are challenged Jiminie, or will you lie like your wooden puppet?

They state quite clearly that they are recreating current atmospheric conditions. You think it proper to assume they are lying because that's the only defense you have against the truth.

Tell me....what are current atmospheric conditions...how precisely does energy move through the atmosphere? ...what precisely are the total feedbacks positive and negative? If climate science can't answer all those questions then they are modeling a best guess of current atmospheric conditions

SSDD,
How often I have seen this sort of thing. You want to know absolutely everything about everything before you will admit to anything. I saw the same sort of thing with the tobacco industry trying to say that their cigaretts were safe and non-addictive.

 

[cultsmasher]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

jc456,
You have all gotten off the track. The point isn't who should do what to who. The point is that human caused global warming is real. I think it was SSDD who came up with the best denier argument against it by talking about how much CO2 the earth naturally produces. As weak as that argument was.

However you want to look at it, the ammount of CO2 humans are responsable for IS having an impact. Maybe it's because the CO2 humans are responsable for comes out in a more concentrated and localized form.

The point is that human caused global warming is real.

Yeah, sure it is.

Idiots like yourself who keep saying it's real DOES NOT make it true.

Wildcard,
Read'em and weep.

 

[Wyld Kard]

There are mountains of evidence and you know it.

There are mountains of bullshit lies and misinformation that is based on fraudulent science but you're too damn stupid to realize it.

 

[cultsmasher]

There are mountains of evidence and you know it.

There are mountains of bullshit lies and misinformation that is based on fraudulent science but you're too damn stupid to realize it.

Wildcard,
If 99%+ of scientists say that human caused global is real, I think I will go with them. Not you.

 

[Wyld Kard]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

jc456,
You have all gotten off the track. The point isn't who should do what to who. The point is that human caused global warming is real. I think it was SSDD who came up with the best denier argument against it by talking about how much CO2 the earth naturally produces. As weak as that argument was.

However you want to look at it, the ammount of CO2 humans are responsable for IS having an impact. Maybe it's because the CO2 humans are responsable for comes out in a more concentrated and localized form.

The point is that human caused global warming is real.

Yeah, sure it is.

Idiots like yourself who keep saying it's real DOES NOT make it true.

Wildcard,
Read'em and weep.
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Same old bullshit, from that same old gullible idiot Cultsmasher.

Yawn.

 

[Wyld Kard]

There are mountains of evidence and you know it.

There are mountains of bullshit lies and misinformation that is based on fraudulent science but you're too damn stupid to realize it.

Wildcard,
If 99%+ of scientists say that human caused global is real, I think I will go with them. Not you.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid and believing the lies. It's what gullible idiots like yourself know best.

 

[westwall]

It's your policy to kill those you don't like, and those who have no use. When one thinks Stalinism, one immediately thinks mammy, saigon, olfraud, crick, blunder, and old crazy ed.

Why don't you put together a collection of quotes from the people you just accused. Something like the collection below of deniers doing precisely what you've accused us of doing.

In order to reduce your own personal creation of greenhouse gasses, hold your breath forever.

I wonder how many of these warmer idiots will suicide out of sheer despair when the hoax finally comes tumbling down?

It never ends well for Death worshipong Cults, CO2 is their Jonesville and they will glady drink the KoolAid

So, it looks like you can kill yourself out of shame now. But that's one emotion you're incapable of, isn't it?

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

If the OP and all the other AGW cult members would stop breathing the CO2 problem will be fixed..

I just made one and you're right---it's too expensive to let people with breathing problems live.

Lets see now, if your charts and conclusions are correct, we need to kill all the chinese and indians. Should we nuke them? no, too much fall out. Poison their water? stop shipping food to them? how about the booming populations in indonesia and south america, how do we eliminate them?

Nice part of cults is that they tend to mass suicide.

In this instance, if they are right, their lemmingesque checking out would do an immense bit toward ending the warming they fear most. Provided they all just took dirt naps instead of being roasted and emitting all those nasty pollutants......

Oh Please! Oh God! That would be so fucking awesome! They don't even have to die, just get off the Internet

Really, the absolute best way for humans to limit their emissions is to minimize the number of humans. I most heartily welcome the voluntary participation of those who believe that humans are a major factor in "global warming", or "climate change" (whatever the current buzzword is) in the "minimize humans" green program..go ahead, do us all a favor, your personal contribution to decreasing human damage to the planet will be welcomed.

This is why I say the Warmers are a sick, death-worshiping Cult

Well all you AGW church members if you believe that CO2 drives climate you might want to show belief by not breathing anymore.

Reduce air pollution. Stop breathing. We promise to miss you. But we will enjoy the cleaner air.

I have issued this challenge before to all the adherents of the AGW cult before:
If you are so very concerned about the damage being done to the Earth by human infestation, please lead the way. You are more than welcome to contribute, up close and personal, to improving the situation. I'll be watching the obits to see whether you all are convinced enough to put your money where your mouth is.

The solution to AGW issue is simple, and very inexpensive. Since CO2 is a normally occurring byproduct of human respiration, I challenge every proponent of AGW, every worshiper of the whole AGW myth, to cease all respiration, and ensure that anyone in your family joins you in you effort to diminish humanity's contribution to CO2 emissions.
C'mon, step up and show us how committed you are to saving the environment.

"If you want to save the Planet, Stop breathing dammit"

So why wouldn't you stop the damage you do by killing yourself?

Nice collection. Except one thing. I don't see anyone in that list discussing doing away with anyone. Please, if you believe there is a phrase of someone stating to do away with someone point it out. Those quotes don't. All of that is request for volunteers who believe their lives are in danger and a suggested way to avoid that anguish. So, not sure the point.

jc456,
You have all gotten off the track. The point isn't who should do what to who. The point is that human caused global warming is real. I think it was SSDD who came up with the best denier argument against it by talking about how much CO2 the earth naturally produces. As weak as that argument was.

However you want to look at it, the ammount of CO2 humans are responsable for IS having an impact. Maybe it's because the CO2 humans are responsable for comes out in a more concentrated and localized form.

The point is that human caused global warming is real.

Yeah, sure it is.

Idiots like yourself who keep saying it's real DOES NOT make it true.

Wildcard,
Read'em and weep.
View attachment 34295 View attachment 34296

The CO2 FOLLOWS the warming. That means it doesn't control it. "Correlation does not equal causation" is a scientific axiom which clearly you're too stupid to understand.

 

[westwall]

There are mountains of evidence and you know it.

There are mountains of bullshit lies and misinformation that is based on fraudulent science but you're too damn stupid to realize it.

Wildcard,
If 99%+ of scientists say that human caused global is real, I think I will go with them. Not you.

Yeah, if that number were true, so might I. As it has been summarily destroyed, that argument is simply of no account.

 

[Wyld Kard]

Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science claims leading meteorologist Daily Mail Online

 

[Billy_Bob]

Robot Sub Finds Much Thicker Than Expected Antarctic Sea Ice

Just wow... Antarctic sea ice is estimated to be 30-40% thicker than the satellite measurements. This means the calibration on those birds is wrong and the amount of ice is much larger than thought.

I know some alarmists that will go sideways hearing that there is more ice than expected...