Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income

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Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

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Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

~~~~~~
He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

You actually have the nerve to make that claim after what the Obama Justice Department was doing during his administration? Now THAT is some funny shit!

So what you’re saying is that there’s two sets of rules. You can investigate Hunter Biden for any reason you want and cannot investigate Trump for any reason?

I want Hunter Biden investigated for a very obvious reason...his receiving the payments he did makes no sense at all. He's a disgraced, drug addicted lawyer who just got canned from the military for failing a drug test but you're going to put him on your board and pay him huge amounts of money for a no show job? Why would any rational person or organization DO that?

That’s not grounds for an investigation. The hiring decisions of a private company aren’t subject to criminal prosecution no matter how much you think he’s a bad choice for the job.

There’s nothing illegal to investigate.

You avoided my question, Colfax. Why would any rational person hire Hunter Biden at that time? Just give me any legitimate reason that Burisma would choose Hunter Biden to be on their board and pay him that huge monthly salary?

Who cares? Let’s say it was a totally irrational decision. But it’s not illegal to make irrational hires and pay them too much money.

If it’s not illegal, you can’t investigate it. The question is irrelevant.

 

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Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

View attachment 379463

Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

~~~~~~
He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

LOL

You guys made up shit to spy on Trump... You had nothing to justify it.. But you did it anyway... The hypocrisy is stunning...

One person made up shit and has plead guilty to doing so. The IG determined the investigation was predicated.

There is no predicate here.

Oh, so you think that one lawyer at the FBI was the guy responsible for the lies that were told and everyone else in the Obama Administration didn't have a clue? You should do standup, Colfax! You're a laugh riot!

That one lawyer was responsible for the one lie that was discovered in a very thorough investigation.

That's the first one to be held "responsible" for lies by the Obama Justice Department. He will not be the last.

Oh good. Someone who can predict the future. What’s next weeks lottery numbers?

My predicting that more indictments will follow isn't exactly a hard call to make, Colfax...people like Peter Strozk still haven't been held responsible for what they did.

So what is Peter Strzok going to be indicted for?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

View attachment 379463

Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

~~~~~~
He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

You actually have the nerve to make that claim after what the Obama Justice Department was doing during his administration? Now THAT is some funny shit!

So what you’re saying is that there’s two sets of rules. You can investigate Hunter Biden for any reason you want and cannot investigate Trump for any reason?

I want Hunter Biden investigated for a very obvious reason...his receiving the payments he did makes no sense at all. He's a disgraced, drug addicted lawyer who just got canned from the military for failing a drug test but you're going to put him on your board and pay him huge amounts of money for a no show job? Why would any rational person or organization DO that?

That’s not grounds for an investigation. The hiring decisions of a private company aren’t subject to criminal prosecution no matter how much you think he’s a bad choice for the job.

There’s nothing illegal to investigate.

You avoided my question, Colfax. Why would any rational person hire Hunter Biden at that time? Just give me any legitimate reason that Burisma would choose Hunter Biden to be on their board and pay him that huge monthly salary?

Who cares? Let’s say it was a totally irrational decision. But it’s not illegal to make irrational hires and pay them too much money.

If it’s not illegal, you can’t investigate it. The question is irrelevant.

Speaking of irrational hires that didn't go well....


Trumpers should know all about them......

 

[hadit]

Ah, now the truth comes out, you ARE trying to conflate the two and ultimately hope to dismiss this whole thing so it doesn't reflect badly on Quid Pro Joe. Yes, digging around in Hunter's finances looking for dirt on Joe IS a witch hunt. That's not what this is. Hunter claimed no income to avoid child support, but eliminated almost half a million in tax debt almost literally overnight. That raises legitimate questions. No one is wanting to see Hunter's tax returns. Do you see it now?

It’s not conflating, it’s comparing and contrasting how you treat each side, a complete double standard.

These aren’t legitimate questions. They’re baseless speculation.

TRUMP! is under investigation and in court over his finances. If you want the same standards applied, Hunter and Joe should be facing the same scrutiny.

 

[colfax_m]

Ah, now the truth comes out, you ARE trying to conflate the two and ultimately hope to dismiss this whole thing so it doesn't reflect badly on Quid Pro Joe. Yes, digging around in Hunter's finances looking for dirt on Joe IS a witch hunt. That's not what this is. Hunter claimed no income to avoid child support, but eliminated almost half a million in tax debt almost literally overnight. That raises legitimate questions. No one is wanting to see Hunter's tax returns. Do you see it now?

It’s not conflating, it’s comparing and contrasting how you treat each side, a complete double standard.

These aren’t legitimate questions. They’re baseless speculation.

TRUMP! is under investigation and in court over his finances. If you want the same standards applied, Hunter and Joe should be facing the same scrutiny.

Ah! Because they had an investigation that was predicated on credible allegations and specific facts that lead to probable cause.

That doesn’t exist here for either Biden.

Oh, and TRUMP! had been calling the investigation a partisan witch hunt so if the same standards applied, you’d be calling this the exact same thing.

 

[hadit]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

View attachment 379463

Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

~~~~~~
He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

You actually have the nerve to make that claim after what the Obama Justice Department was doing during his administration? Now THAT is some funny shit!

So what you’re saying is that there’s two sets of rules. You can investigate Hunter Biden for any reason you want and cannot investigate Trump for any reason?

I want Hunter Biden investigated for a very obvious reason...his receiving the payments he did makes no sense at all. He's a disgraced, drug addicted lawyer who just got canned from the military for failing a drug test but you're going to put him on your board and pay him huge amounts of money for a no show job? Why would any rational person or organization DO that?

And he got a job. You still haven't shown how Burisma got anything from Joe for hiring his son. How about explaining why they kept Hunter on their board for years after Joe was no longer VP?

Gee, let me think! Why would you keep the son of the presumptive favorite to be the Democrats nominee for President on the payroll? (eye roll) Maybe for the same reason that foreign governments gave millions to the Clinton Foundation when Hillary was the presumptive favorite to get the nomination in the last election?

When did Biden become the Democrats' presumptive favorite nominee?

He's been that for years now. Biden was the guy that the DNC thought had the best chance of beating Trump.

How's that possible when he didn't even announce he was running until last year? Sounds like you're just making shit up again.

Are you seriously trying to pretend that the DNC only heard that he was running when he made the announcement, like Obama learning about crises when he reads the morning paper?

 

[Muhammed]

Who cares? Let’s say it was a totally irrational decision. But it’s not illegal to make irrational hires and pay them too much money.

If it’s not illegal, you can’t investigate it. The question is irrelevant.

In some cases it certainly is illegal.

Burisma sent a lot of money to Rosemont Seneca, Biden's law firm. It's not necessarily illegal for a corporation in Ukraine to make payments to a board member's company, but is has to be for actual services rendered. Otherwise it's illegal.

That is one of the issues Ukraine is investigating.

 

[hadit]

Ah, now the truth comes out, you ARE trying to conflate the two and ultimately hope to dismiss this whole thing so it doesn't reflect badly on Quid Pro Joe. Yes, digging around in Hunter's finances looking for dirt on Joe IS a witch hunt. That's not what this is. Hunter claimed no income to avoid child support, but eliminated almost half a million in tax debt almost literally overnight. That raises legitimate questions. No one is wanting to see Hunter's tax returns. Do you see it now?

It’s not conflating, it’s comparing and contrasting how you treat each side, a complete double standard.

These aren’t legitimate questions. They’re baseless speculation.

TRUMP! is under investigation and in court over his finances. If you want the same standards applied, Hunter and Joe should be facing the same scrutiny.

Ah! Because they had an investigation that was predicated on credible allegations and specific facts that lead to probable cause.

That doesn’t exist here for either Biden.

Oh, and TRUMP! had been calling the investigation a partisan witch hunt so if the same standards applied, you’d be calling this the exact same thing.

Sure, just like TRUMP! had been calling the investigations against him partisan witch hunts, I'd expect Quid Pro Joe to do the same thing. Note that I'm neither TRUMP! nor QPJ.

In this case, however, you have the son of a presidential candidate who claims he has no income so he can't pay child support, yet suddenly has half a million he uses to wipe out a tax debt. And you want no one to talk about it.

 

[Faun]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

View attachment 379463

Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

~~~~~~
He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

You actually have the nerve to make that claim after what the Obama Justice Department was doing during his administration? Now THAT is some funny shit!

So what you’re saying is that there’s two sets of rules. You can investigate Hunter Biden for any reason you want and cannot investigate Trump for any reason?

I want Hunter Biden investigated for a very obvious reason...his receiving the payments he did makes no sense at all. He's a disgraced, drug addicted lawyer who just got canned from the military for failing a drug test but you're going to put him on your board and pay him huge amounts of money for a no show job? Why would any rational person or organization DO that?

And he got a job. You still haven't shown how Burisma got anything from Joe for hiring his son. How about explaining why they kept Hunter on their board for years after Joe was no longer VP?

Gee, let me think! Why would you keep the son of the presumptive favorite to be the Democrats nominee for President on the payroll? (eye roll) Maybe for the same reason that foreign governments gave millions to the Clinton Foundation when Hillary was the presumptive favorite to get the nomination in the last election?

When did Biden become the Democrats' presumptive favorite nominee?

He's been that for years now. Biden was the guy that the DNC thought had the best chance of beating Trump.

How's that possible when he didn't even announce he was running until last year? Sounds like you're just making shit up again.

Are you seriously trying to pretend that the DNC only heard that he was running when he made the announcement, like Obama learning about crises when he reads the morning paper?

LOL

Great, quote the DNC bragging about Biden running for office in 2017 and 2018...

 

[colfax_m]

Who cares? Let’s say it was a totally irrational decision. But it’s not illegal to make irrational hires and pay them too much money.

If it’s not illegal, you can’t investigate it. The question is irrelevant.

In some cases it certainly is illegal.

Burisma sent a lot of money to Rosemont Seneca, Biden's law firm. It's not necessarily illegal for a corporation in Ukraine to make payments to a board member's company, but is has to be for actual services rendered. Otherwise it's illegal.

That is one of the issues Ukraine is investigating.

Is there credible evidence to suggest that there were no services rendered by Biden?

 

[colfax_m]

In this case, however, you have the son of a presidential candidate who claims he has no income so he can't pay child support, yet suddenly has half a million he uses to wipe out a tax debt. And you want no one to talk about it.

There’s nothing to talk about.

 

[hadit]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
,

Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

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Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

Perhaps you didn't read the entire title, as it references him "resolving" it despite having no income. Again, no one wants to see his tax returns, and it's a fair topic for discussion despite you trying to shut it down.

The topic is none of your business. Why do you think it’s a fair topic?

Because we can talk about anyone in the news that we want to. Why do you feel the need to shut down discussion of Hunter's situation? And you'd better have a very strong case if you don't want everyone to automatically assume it's because you want to protect Quid Pro Joe from being tarred by it.

He’s a private citizen. This is none of your business.

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He's the son of a presumptive contender for the presidency of these United States of America....
They say that the fig doesn't fall far from the tree...

In other words, you've got nothing on Joe, so you're hoping to get some tar and feathers on him by going after his son.

With all due respect, Faun...this IS on Joe! He knew exactly what his son was doing in the Ukraine and in China and did nothing to stop it! That was a choice that Joe Biden made and he owns it!

LOLOL

Oh? What was Hunter doing in Ukraine?

Absolutely NOTHING and he was getting paid over $80,000 a month for a job that he never even set foot in the Ukraine to do! Nice "work" if you can get it!

A lot of Companies pay big money to have a name on the letterhead.
A no show job is not uncommon.
The key is what the Biden Crime Family gave away or promised to give away in return.

Like you said. They paid to have a name on their letterhead. That’s it.

Then there should be no issue with an investigation to confirm that.
Trust, but verify.

Investigations must be predicated. There is no predicate here.

You actually have the nerve to make that claim after what the Obama Justice Department was doing during his administration? Now THAT is some funny shit!

So what you’re saying is that there’s two sets of rules. You can investigate Hunter Biden for any reason you want and cannot investigate Trump for any reason?

I want Hunter Biden investigated for a very obvious reason...his receiving the payments he did makes no sense at all. He's a disgraced, drug addicted lawyer who just got canned from the military for failing a drug test but you're going to put him on your board and pay him huge amounts of money for a no show job? Why would any rational person or organization DO that?

And he got a job. You still haven't shown how Burisma got anything from Joe for hiring his son. How about explaining why they kept Hunter on their board for years after Joe was no longer VP?

Gee, let me think! Why would you keep the son of the presumptive favorite to be the Democrats nominee for President on the payroll? (eye roll) Maybe for the same reason that foreign governments gave millions to the Clinton Foundation when Hillary was the presumptive favorite to get the nomination in the last election?

When did Biden become the Democrats' presumptive favorite nominee?

He's been that for years now. Biden was the guy that the DNC thought had the best chance of beating Trump.

How's that possible when he didn't even announce he was running until last year? Sounds like you're just making shit up again.

Are you seriously trying to pretend that the DNC only heard that he was running when he made the announcement, like Obama learning about crises when he reads the morning paper?

LOL

Great, quote the DNC bragging about Biden running for office in 2017 and 2018...

Don't have to. I'm stating that the DNC knew that Biden was running long before he made the announcement. It strains credulity to believe otherwise, as if someone at the DNC said one morning, "Hey, check this out, Joe Biden just announced that he's running for president. Let's ask him if he's being serious or just having another senior moment".

 

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In this case, however, you have the son of a presidential candidate who claims he has no income so he can't pay child support, yet suddenly has half a million he uses to wipe out a tax debt. And you want no one to talk about it.

There’s nothing to talk about.

Sure there is, that's why there are so many posts in this thread, yours included. In fact, you're doing most of the talking about it trying to get people to stop talking about it.

 

[hadit]

Now do Brett Kavanaugh!

Nah, he's already been through the wringer and survived.

 

[hadit]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

That does it. I'm not voting for Hunter Biden now.

Heck, let's extend that to his entire family. No one should vote for any Biden for any position. Agreed?

 

[hadit]

Hunter Biden’s $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly ‘RESOLVED’ Despite Claiming NO Income​

Hunter Biden's $450,000 Tax Debt Gets Suddenly 'RESOLVED' Despite Claiming NO Income

No reporters are asking about the money.

us24news.com

23 Aug 2020 ~~ By Jonathan Jones

A large tax debt owed to the government by the son of former Vice President Joe Biden has disappeared, according to a report.
Hunter Biden, who has faced scrutiny over allegedly profiting from businesses internationally using his father’s influence, recently told a court in his Arkansas paternity case that he was out of work and broke.
The Washington Free Beacon reported Saturday that despite the younger Biden’s reported personal and financial woes, he was able to resolve a six-figure tax debt in a short period of time.
“Hunter Biden was hit with a $450,000 lien in July over delinquent state income taxes, which he paid off in six days despite having no discernible income,” the Free Beacon’s Alana Goodman reported.
The ability to pay nearly half a million dollars in back taxes in less than a week seems to contradict statements from Biden to an Arkansas court that he could not afford to pay child support.
In January, Biden agreed to pay the mother of a child he fathered in Arkansas, despite not having a job, retroactive to November 2018, Fox News reported.
Biden failed to turn over documents relevant to his income and was held in contempt of court, according to Fox.
After a court-ordered paternity test, Biden was found to be the child’s father.
There was also a legal dustup concerning how much Biden’s permanent monthly child support payment would be calculated.
The paternity and child support case in Arkansas furthers the mystery surrounding Biden’s ability to pay off the reported tax debt.
“A spokesman for D.C.’s Office of the Chief Financial Officer confirmed that Hunter Biden’s lien was released on July 15 after the ‘tax issue was resolved.’ The office declined to say whether Biden had paid off the debt,” The Free Beacon reported.
It is unclear what income, if any, Biden has at the moment, as his father seeks to unseat President Donald Trump in November.
Biden has been linked to a series of financial scandals.
After being hired by Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings in 2014, Biden was paid a salary of $83,333 a month, Fox reported.
The high salary was paid despite the former VP’s son holding a job as a non-executive “ceremonial figure.”
It was also said by three individuals close to Biden’s Burisma deal that he never visited Ukraine, despite the exorbitant salary, according to Reuters.
Biden was reportedly paid that salary from April 2014 until November 2015.
[Snip]
In Biden’s 2017 divorce, his former wife claimed he sent the family into financial ruin by spending money on “drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts for women with whom he had sexual relations.”
Kathleen Biden said the family was left with massive debts by Biden’s alleged activities, including tax debt, medical bills and credit cards that were maxed out.
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.

Comment:
Hmm...., If it is any consolation, I don’t think Hunter is going to help him during the election.
Trump is going to highlight this early and often and frankly it does not take a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong with the Ukraine and China deals, but wait.... there is even more to come out.
The Biden’s played the same scheme in other Eastern European countries as well as Iraq where Biden’s brother landed a lucrative contract in an area where he had no expertise.
It would be a shame if Hunter put all those dollars up hi nose...
the question is where is that $1.4 billion dollar China deal money?

Hunter Biden was not hired to the Burisma board as a "ceremonial figure". He was hired to head Burisma's legal team.

Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist

An obscure private Ukrainian natural gas company has been hiring friends and family of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden, while seeking to influence Congress

time.com

BY MICHAEL SCHERER

JULY 7, 2014 10:39 PM EDT

When Vice President Joe Biden’s son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.

And Burisma certainly had their share of legal troubles for Hunter Biden to solve for them. Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevskyi had fled the country to Moscow to avoid prosecution.

Joe Biden held back $1 billion in US treasury loan guarantees, which were needed to secure over $30 brillion in other loans to bail out Ukraine.

Biden certainly took care of Burisma's legal problems. He gave President Poroshenko and Prime Minister Yatsenyuk an ultimatum. Either fire the prosecutor general who is investigating Burisma, and replace him with a puppet, or Ukraine becomes financially insolvent.

That puppet was Biden's "solid", Yuriy Lutsenko, who had recently served prison time for corruption in office until his sentence was commuted after an appeal by Hunter Biden's fellow Burisma board member, Alexander Kwasniewski.
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Ukraine: Yanukovych Pardons Lutsenko

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has pardoned jailed former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko, a close ally of imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

www.rferl.org

But there was a problem. Biden's corrupt puppet didn't have a law degree and had never practiced law. He never even went to law school, fer crissakes. And under Ukrainian law, the Prosecutor General was required to have a law degree and a minimum number of years experience as an attorney.

Facing Quid Pro Joe's threats, the Ukrainian parliament had no choice. In a special session, they actually changed the law that required the country's top attorney be an actual fucking real life attorney with a law degree and everything.

As much of scandal as that was, no matter how embarrassing and degrading it was, no matter how outraged the people were, the Ukrainian parliament had to do it. Joe Biden made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

It's horrible.

So they went with someone that had no training or experience in Ukrainian law???

We went with a president who had no prior training or even the slightest knowledge of the constitution -- so lets not pretend that experience and expertise is supposed to matter now...You trumpers take pride in hating expertise....

No Biffy Boy -

The delusions in your head, do not represent reality.
I do get that worshipers of Government only want other people who worship Government to be in Government.
It's a Government worshipping cult.

One does not need to be in your cult to be President.
Clearly.

So again, you can't refute what I said?

Got it......

There is a reason why everyone (even those who work for Trump) thinks he's a moron...

There is a reason why folks like you have to engage in self projection daily in order to compensate for the fact that your current cult leader is a moron...

Just like yall had to carry water for your last cult leader -- before you all decided to admit "AFTER THE FACT" that he was a moron....and lets not even talk about the guy yall started worshipping after him....

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Must deflect, must deflect. Can't let any discussion of Biden stand on its own merits. Must deflect, must deflect.

How about Biden’s taxes are none of your damn business?

No one cares about the content of his taxes. They find it interesting that a guy who claims to have no income so as to duck his child support obligations can easily and suddenly erase a six figure tax debt. Obviously, he's either lying to the court about his income and assets or someone gave him a lot of money to settle the tax debt but not take care of his child.

Um, this thread is about Biden’s taxes (it’s in the thread title) and it’s none of your business.

If think it's none of your business, then why the fuck are you so concerned about it that you are posting in this thread, jackass?

When Quid Pro Joe's crony in the Ukraine extortion racket suddenly has a huge windfall of money, it's our business.

Nope. He’s finances are none of your business. People have constitutional rights and you aren’t allowed to violate them because of politics.

No one is violating anyone's constitutional rights by talking about someone with no income being able to "resolve" a six figure tax debt in a very short period of time. Man, you're really trying to stop people from talking about it.

What’s there to talk about? He had a tax debt. Now he doesn’t.

Exactly, but you forgot a few things.

1. He had a massive tax debt.
2. He declared he had no income to avoid child support payments.
3. Suddenly, his tax debt disappeared.

That's kind of like saying, "He committed suicide, there's nothing to see here" when there's a gunshot wound in the back of the head. Since Hunter's dad is running for president, naturally people would want to know if he paid off his son's tax debt but doesn't want to take care of his grandchild. They also would want to know if Hunter is in bed with other big money interests and if that spills over onto Quid Pro Joe, like did Joe trade his office for money? Face it, if Hunter's dad wasn't running for president, he wouldn't even be mentioned in the news.

I guess you never heard of the difference between income and assets.

Neither of which are any of your business. Hunter Biden has no requirement to disclose any financial information because his dad is running for president.

No, he has a requirement to disclose such information because he's being sued for child support. Did you miss that part of the story in trying to conflate it with TRUMP!?

 

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In this case, however, you have the son of a presidential candidate who claims he has no income so he can't pay child support, yet suddenly has half a million he uses to wipe out a tax debt. And you want no one to talk about it.

There’s nothing to talk about.

Sure there is, that's why there are so many posts in this thread, yours included. In fact, you're doing most of the talking about it trying to get people to stop talking about it.

The posts in the thread are almost entirely baseless speculation.

 

[hadit]

Now do Brett Kavanaugh!

Nah, he's already been through the wringer and survived.

Who paid off his hundreds of thousands of dollars in credit card debt?

I don't know. Why don't you ask him?

 

[hadit]

In this case, however, you have the son of a presidential candidate who claims he has no income so he can't pay child support, yet suddenly has half a million he uses to wipe out a tax debt. And you want no one to talk about it.

There’s nothing to talk about.

Sure there is, that's why there are so many posts in this thread, yours included. In fact, you're doing most of the talking about it trying to get people to stop talking about it.

The posts in the thread are almost entirely baseless speculation.

Just like most of the crap about TRUMP! and his taxes is baseless speculation. You're not going to stop that, you know, just by begging people to stop talking about it. Especially since you're leading the charge in talking about it.

 

[hadit]

Now do Brett Kavanaugh!

Nah, he's already been through the wringer and survived.

Who paid off his hundreds of thousands of dollars in credit card debt?

I don't know. Why don't you ask him?

Thank you for the FAIL. It’s so easy to get one from you.

The true fail is pretending that I would know something like that, then prancing around the camp fire like you've slain a dragon. IOW, not a fail on my part at all. Would you prefer I do like the TRUMP! haters and make something up on the spot?