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[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

Cops were behind him... best position to restrain him. He walked to his car door... he didn’t race there as you incorrectly said. The cops did have a choice. Restrain him without using lethal force. We didn’t see what happened leading up to the video so we will have to see what witness testimony says since the cops weren’t wearing body cams.

can we agree that every cop should have an active body cam on during each arrest?

Restrain how? He brushed off two taser attacks. What specifically would you do. What do you mean by “restrain”?

Brushed off two taser attacks huh? That’s interesting. I guess they had no other choice but to put 7 in his back. Super logic!

You keep having one way conversations

At this point I don’t see the conversation going anywhere. We’ve both seen the same video. You saw one thing I saw another. It is what it is.

You won’t answer a simple question. If you’re one of the male police officers what would you do differently?

I would have tried to take him down when he walked around the car and had my partner cuff him. I didn’t see what happened before. I’ve heard a lot of crap like he was Tasered twice and he was going for a knife which doesn’t make sense and I wasn’t there so I dont really believe anything more than I can see in the video.

Tried to take him down....how would you do that? The man is bigger than you and is a dangerous criminal with a record. Your three months in the academy taught you that?

Hell yeah, 3 trained cops can’t take down one guy? Really?? Remember there is a video. We can see that they didn’t attempt to take him down As he walked to his car, they pulled their guns and then one of them shot him in the back. Not cool in Dr Seuss land

Did you see it? They were smaller and one was a woman. In Atlanta two police officers couldn’t keep a drunk man down. Their training is not in h2h combat. So again, how would you take him down and not expose your weapon to him? Give me the exact move you would put on him. Thanks.

I would kick punch him and if that didn’t work I would use Mr Miyagis crane kick to the balls

You joke but police officers aren’t trained to fight suspects. They are trained to mace, taze or draw weapons. That needs to change somewhat. Most police officers are not above average h2h combatants. You lost this debate.

Lethal force should always be a last resort. There were three cops and one Unarmed man. From what I saw in the video they did not adequately attempt to restrain him and they needlessly shot him in the back.

You think I lost I think I won. Sounds like a win win to me.

They tased him twice. They aren’t trained to fight. What part of that do you not understand? How do they restrain him without exposing their guns to him? Are you acting stupid or are you just plain stupid?

Honestly, you cannot answer what you would do if you were one of the cops and you have had days to think about it. They had seconds.

So again. Do you agree or disagree that most police officers are not above average hand to hand combatants? It’s not as easy as you think to take someone down. Ever been in a fight?

They should have let him go, then he would be arrested later as the body cam recorded everything

Cops do not have the right to shoot people who do not listen unless they are actually killing people

If they let him go and he kills someone then what? It’s not as easy as you make it sound.

He was not fleeing, they shot him in the back too soon

You have ESP now? They don’t know what he was doing. But we all agree he was resisting arrest.

Are you saying that all people who resist arrest should be shot. Or that any dumb shit cop who does not know what someone is doing should be shot

Lol grow up jr

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

Cops were behind him... best position to restrain him. He walked to his car door... he didn’t race there as you incorrectly said. The cops did have a choice. Restrain him without using lethal force. We didn’t see what happened leading up to the video so we will have to see what witness testimony says since the cops weren’t wearing body cams.

can we agree that every cop should have an active body cam on during each arrest?

Restrain how? He brushed off two taser attacks. What specifically would you do. What do you mean by “restrain”?

Brushed off two taser attacks huh? That’s interesting. I guess they had no other choice but to put 7 in his back. Super logic!

You keep having one way conversations

At this point I don’t see the conversation going anywhere. We’ve both seen the same video. You saw one thing I saw another. It is what it is.

You won’t answer a simple question. If you’re one of the male police officers what would you do differently?

I would have tried to take him down when he walked around the car and had my partner cuff him. I didn’t see what happened before. I’ve heard a lot of crap like he was Tasered twice and he was going for a knife which doesn’t make sense and I wasn’t there so I dont really believe anything more than I can see in the video.

Tried to take him down....how would you do that? The man is bigger than you and is a dangerous criminal with a record. Your three months in the academy taught you that?

Hell yeah, 3 trained cops can’t take down one guy? Really?? Remember there is a video. We can see that they didn’t attempt to take him down As he walked to his car, they pulled their guns and then one of them shot him in the back. Not cool in Dr Seuss land

Did you see it? They were smaller and one was a woman. In Atlanta two police officers couldn’t keep a drunk man down. Their training is not in h2h combat. So again, how would you take him down and not expose your weapon to him? Give me the exact move you would put on him. Thanks.

I would kick punch him and if that didn’t work I would use Mr Miyagis crane kick to the balls

You joke but police officers aren’t trained to fight suspects. They are trained to mace, taze or draw weapons. That needs to change somewhat. Most police officers are not above average h2h combatants. You lost this debate.

Lethal force should always be a last resort. There were three cops and one Unarmed man. From what I saw in the video they did not adequately attempt to restrain him and they needlessly shot him in the back.

You think I lost I think I won. Sounds like a win win to me.

They tased him twice. They aren’t trained to fight. What part of that do you not understand? How do they restrain him without exposing their guns to him? Are you acting stupid or are you just plain stupid?

Honestly, you cannot answer what you would do if you were one of the cops and you have had days to think about it. They had seconds.

So again. Do you agree or disagree that most police officers are not above average hand to hand combatants? It’s not as easy as you think to take someone down. Ever been in a fight?

They should have let him go, then he would be arrested later as the body cam recorded everything

Cops do not have the right to shoot people who do not listen unless they are actually killing people

If they let him go and he kills someone then what? It’s not as easy as you make it sound.

He was not fleeing, they shot him in the back too soon

You have ESP now? They don’t know what he was doing. But we all agree he was resisting arrest.

So cops are allowed to shoot people when they do not know what they are doing. What world are you on?

Grow up jr

I am saying if they resist and the cops believe they present a danger to them or other civilians should be shot. Yes. If you have a problem with me then PM me, otherwise stay on topic. I am younger than you, yes. Smarter too, based on the idiocy of your posts.

 

[Slade3200]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

Spade thinks fighting is so easy. It’s not like it is in the movies. Christ. Give it up. Taking someone down is hard. Keeping them down is even harder.

Bullshit. 3 vs 1... the 3 being trained professionals. Give me a break. They didn’t even try

Try what? Not 3 but 2.5 and if he grabs a gun then what? Police officers aren’t trained to wrestle. You have watched too many Steven Segal movies. Why aren’t you understanding what I am typing? If you want police officers trained in wrestling then you need to redo the entire police training system.

It’s absurd that you are actually trying to make the case that cops aren’t trained to arrest people who don’t want to be arrested so it’s totally fine if they shoot them in the back. Seriously. Take a step out of your bubble and listen to yourself

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

Spade thinks fighting is so easy. It’s not like it is in the movies. Christ. Give it up. Taking someone down is hard. Keeping them down is even harder.

Bullshit. 3 vs 1... the 3 being trained professionals. Give me a break. They didn’t even try

Try what? Not 3 but 2.5 and if he grabs a gun then what? Police officers aren’t trained to wrestle. You have watched too many Steven Segal movies. Why aren’t you understanding what I am typing? If you want police officers trained in wrestling then you need to redo the entire police training system.

It’s absurd that you are actually trying to make the case that cops aren’t trained to arrest people who don’t want to be arrested so it’s totally fine if they shoot them in the back. Seriously. Take a step out of your bubble and listen to yourself

When did I say it was fine to shoot them in the back? I am Asking you what you would do in their shoes and you told me you would go Roman Reigns on them. I asked How and you didn’t answer. I would have fired a warning shot if it were me. See, that is called answering the fucking question and if he continued to reach in his car then I would have shot him, yes.

 

[Slade3200]

What would you have done if you were one of the cops?

That is the question of the OP, and really it is the ONLY thing that USMB liberals whom I have called upon here, to be posting. Instead, they DODGE the question, and deflect into all sorts of blabbering about this or that.

Thank you for bringing THE TOPIC back to the fore of the thread, even though I suspect they will still avoid it, and choose to change the subject.

I did answer the question you turd. You just praised this guy for bringing it back to the topic by asking me, “What would you have done if you were one of the cops?” I literally just answered that question.

 

[Slade3200]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

You claimed they were at a bad angle to take him down did you not?

Spade thinks fighting is so easy. It’s not like it is in the movies. Christ. Give it up. Taking someone down is hard. Keeping them down is even harder.

Bullshit. 3 vs 1... the 3 being trained professionals. Give me a break. They didn’t even try

Try what? Not 3 but 2.5 and if he grabs a gun then what? Police officers aren’t trained to wrestle. You have watched too many Steven Segal movies. Why aren’t you understanding what I am typing? If you want police officers trained in wrestling then you need to redo the entire police training system.

It’s absurd that you are actually trying to make the case that cops aren’t trained to arrest people who don’t want to be arrested so it’s totally fine if they shoot them in the back. Seriously. Take a step out of your bubble and listen to yourself

When did I say it was fine to shoot them in the back? I am Asking you what you would do in their shoes and you told me you would go Roman Reigns on them. I asked How and you didn’t answer. I would have fired a warning shot if it were me. See, that is called answering the fucking question and if he continued to reach in his car then I would have shot him, yes.

They are trained cops. They get trained on several different ways to arrest people. I would choose one of the non lethal methods if an unarmed guy was walking away from me

 

[protectionist]

He should never have gotten to his car door. Simple as that. They already had weapons trained on him and they should have done a takedown before it went as far as it did. They had the numbers. And not seeing his hands isn't justification to pump 7 rounds point plank into his back. That had to be the most dangerous and sloppy police procedure (If you can call it that) I have ever seen. It endangered not only the perp but the cops themselves.

It's not a liberal or conservative or even a Party of the Rump, it's a Police Procedure and Safety thing and a cop who just wanted to kill someone in the heat of the moment.

FALSE! not seeing his hands IS justification to pump 7 rounds point blank into his back. No, it was NOT a "dangerous and sloppy police procedure", it was just the opposite of that. It was a self-defense necessary procedure for the police to keep them from being shot.

Of course it endangered the perp, but that's what happens if you don't follow police directions, and KEEP YOUR HANDS VISIBLE. Most suspects die in this case.

What also is dangerous and sloppy, is your post, which is entirely the OPPOSITE of everything that is correct/true, but then that is the common thing with liberals. Stating things the opposite of how they are.

 

[protectionist]

I did answer the question you turd. You just praised this guy for bringing it back to the topic by asking me, “What would you have done if you were one of the cops?” I literally just answered that question.

No, imbecile. You did NOT answer the question. You said >> "If I’m one of those cops and a perp was walking away from me like in the video I grab him and throw him against the car and cuff him."

So are you that much of an idiot, that you can't see THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION ? You're THAT dumb, are you ?

I'll spell it out for you. The OP asked >> "... then reaches into a car, with his hands now not visible to you, what do you do ?"

Got it now ? It's asking you what do you do when you're at the point where he's reaching into the car and his hands are not visible. NOTHING ELSE.

Now answer the question you fuckin coward. Answer it, MR DODGE.

 

[protectionist]

I think if I'm liberal I'd try and relate to him, by calling him bro, black jive and that. I'd tell him how much I like black people. I'd just do what liberals always do, which is to act disingenuous around blacks, especially males. I'd let them know who has the upper hand, because I'm scared and a friendly.

YOU'RE DEAD.

 

[Blues Man]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

They do that and he grabs one of the guns and its over. Not that simple and almost always is not always. It is not in their protocol to do that. You know that but are playing coy, why?

 

[protectionist]

But we are supposed to believe they had no choice. Pepper spray on the belt. Nope. The gun is all that they could use.

Collapsible baton. And outnumbered bad guy. Nope. Got to use the gun. Idiots.

YOU'RE DEAD. In many if not most cases of suspect hands disappearing from view, the cop is shot if he doesn't immediately shoot the suspect. Of course, the cop has no choice. If he doesn't immediately shoot, it takes the suspect 1/2 second to point gun and shoot him.

Yeah, your pepper spray and baton against a suspect's gun, huh ? Brilliant. Good thing you're not writing police SOP. Ther'd be a lot of dead cops.

 

[protectionist]

He was out of line for sure. I don’t know what people are thinking when they fight back against cops. Being respectful is always the best way to go. With that said, Blake did not deserve 7 shots in the back. The situation was mishandled by the police from what we can see on the video

Not a question of "deserve" It was a self-defense shooting. Justifiable.

 

[Blues Man]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

They do that and he grabs one of the guns and its over. Not that simple and almost always is not always. It is not in their protocol to do that. You know that but are playing coy, why?

I'm done arguing with you we will not agree so continuing is a waste of time

 

[protectionist]

You are still trying to argue piss poor cop that cost a Citizen his mobility and loads of pain and suffering. There is NO justification you can give on this one.

You are dense.

Have you answered the question the OP ?

 

[protectionist]

Fail.

I'll take that as a NO answer, which puts you in the same category as all the other cowards, who come in here and mouth off, but are too chickenshit to say what they would do if they were in the cops' shoes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fail.

I'll take that as a NO answer, which puts you in the same category as all the other cowards, who come in here and mouth off, but are too chickenshit to say what they would do if they were in the cops' shoes.

You responded to my answer moron.

 

[protectionist]

The fools are morons shooting people in the back because they do not have the balls to face a potential enemy head on.

Keep babbling you triggered fool

You don't even have a clue about what is being discussed here.
Only humans are allowed to post in this forum, not baboons.

 

[esalla]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

Cops were behind him... best position to restrain him. He walked to his car door... he didn’t race there as you incorrectly said. The cops did have a choice. Restrain him without using lethal force. We didn’t see what happened leading up to the video so we will have to see what witness testimony says since the cops weren’t wearing body cams.

can we agree that every cop should have an active body cam on during each arrest?

Restrain how? He brushed off two taser attacks. What specifically would you do. What do you mean by “restrain”?

Brushed off two taser attacks huh? That’s interesting. I guess they had no other choice but to put 7 in his back. Super logic!

You keep having one way conversations

At this point I don’t see the conversation going anywhere. We’ve both seen the same video. You saw one thing I saw another. It is what it is.

You won’t answer a simple question. If you’re one of the male police officers what would you do differently?

I would have tried to take him down when he walked around the car and had my partner cuff him. I didn’t see what happened before. I’ve heard a lot of crap like he was Tasered twice and he was going for a knife which doesn’t make sense and I wasn’t there so I dont really believe anything more than I can see in the video.

Tried to take him down....how would you do that? The man is bigger than you and is a dangerous criminal with a record. Your three months in the academy taught you that?

Hell yeah, 3 trained cops can’t take down one guy? Really?? Remember there is a video. We can see that they didn’t attempt to take him down As he walked to his car, they pulled their guns and then one of them shot him in the back. Not cool in Dr Seuss land

Did you see it? They were smaller and one was a woman. In Atlanta two police officers couldn’t keep a drunk man down. Their training is not in h2h combat. So again, how would you take him down and not expose your weapon to him? Give me the exact move you would put on him. Thanks.

I would kick punch him and if that didn’t work I would use Mr Miyagis crane kick to the balls

You joke but police officers aren’t trained to fight suspects. They are trained to mace, taze or draw weapons. That needs to change somewhat. Most police officers are not above average h2h combatants. You lost this debate.

Lethal force should always be a last resort. There were three cops and one Unarmed man. From what I saw in the video they did not adequately attempt to restrain him and they needlessly shot him in the back.

You think I lost I think I won. Sounds like a win win to me.

They tased him twice. They aren’t trained to fight. What part of that do you not understand? How do they restrain him without exposing their guns to him? Are you acting stupid or are you just plain stupid?

Honestly, you cannot answer what you would do if you were one of the cops and you have had days to think about it. They had seconds.

So again. Do you agree or disagree that most police officers are not above average hand to hand combatants? It’s not as easy as you think to take someone down. Ever been in a fight?

They should have let him go, then he would be arrested later as the body cam recorded everything

Cops do not have the right to shoot people who do not listen unless they are actually killing people

If they let him go and he kills someone then what? It’s not as easy as you make it sound.

He was not fleeing, they shot him in the back too soon

You have ESP now? They don’t know what he was doing. But we all agree he was resisting arrest.

Are you saying that all people who resist arrest should be shot. Or that any dumb shit cop who does not know what someone is doing should be shot

Lol grow up jr

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

Cops were behind him... best position to restrain him. He walked to his car door... he didn’t race there as you incorrectly said. The cops did have a choice. Restrain him without using lethal force. We didn’t see what happened leading up to the video so we will have to see what witness testimony says since the cops weren’t wearing body cams.

can we agree that every cop should have an active body cam on during each arrest?

Restrain how? He brushed off two taser attacks. What specifically would you do. What do you mean by “restrain”?

Brushed off two taser attacks huh? That’s interesting. I guess they had no other choice but to put 7 in his back. Super logic!

You keep having one way conversations

At this point I don’t see the conversation going anywhere. We’ve both seen the same video. You saw one thing I saw another. It is what it is.

You won’t answer a simple question. If you’re one of the male police officers what would you do differently?

I would have tried to take him down when he walked around the car and had my partner cuff him. I didn’t see what happened before. I’ve heard a lot of crap like he was Tasered twice and he was going for a knife which doesn’t make sense and I wasn’t there so I dont really believe anything more than I can see in the video.

Tried to take him down....how would you do that? The man is bigger than you and is a dangerous criminal with a record. Your three months in the academy taught you that?

Hell yeah, 3 trained cops can’t take down one guy? Really?? Remember there is a video. We can see that they didn’t attempt to take him down As he walked to his car, they pulled their guns and then one of them shot him in the back. Not cool in Dr Seuss land

Did you see it? They were smaller and one was a woman. In Atlanta two police officers couldn’t keep a drunk man down. Their training is not in h2h combat. So again, how would you take him down and not expose your weapon to him? Give me the exact move you would put on him. Thanks.

I would kick punch him and if that didn’t work I would use Mr Miyagis crane kick to the balls

You joke but police officers aren’t trained to fight suspects. They are trained to mace, taze or draw weapons. That needs to change somewhat. Most police officers are not above average h2h combatants. You lost this debate.

Lethal force should always be a last resort. There were three cops and one Unarmed man. From what I saw in the video they did not adequately attempt to restrain him and they needlessly shot him in the back.

You think I lost I think I won. Sounds like a win win to me.

They tased him twice. They aren’t trained to fight. What part of that do you not understand? How do they restrain him without exposing their guns to him? Are you acting stupid or are you just plain stupid?

Honestly, you cannot answer what you would do if you were one of the cops and you have had days to think about it. They had seconds.

So again. Do you agree or disagree that most police officers are not above average hand to hand combatants? It’s not as easy as you think to take someone down. Ever been in a fight?

They should have let him go, then he would be arrested later as the body cam recorded everything

Cops do not have the right to shoot people who do not listen unless they are actually killing people

If they let him go and he kills someone then what? It’s not as easy as you make it sound.

He was not fleeing, they shot him in the back too soon

You have ESP now? They don’t know what he was doing. But we all agree he was resisting arrest.

So cops are allowed to shoot people when they do not know what they are doing. What world are you on?

Grow up jr

I am saying if they resist and the cops believe they present a danger to them or other civilians should be shot. Yes. If you have a problem with me then PM me, otherwise stay on topic. I am younger than you, yes. Smarter too, based on the idiocy of your posts.

I own Apple orchards kid, you are a trailer trash slob. This faggot of a human shot another man in the back because he was scared. LOL you ever seen a police training target of the back of a person.

Nope because shooting people in the back is gutless and wrong.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't know why the 2 cops didn't just take him to the ground and cuff him they certainly had plenty of time to

Plenty of time ? All within a 1/2 second, huh ?

There are many posts within this thread that answer your question.

You think that the video captured the entire event?

I keep asking people who say what you do that the cops could have taken the woman beater who ignored the court order to stay away from her down from behind while he raced to the car if they saw video that I didn't, but all of you have said no. Did you?

Raced to the car? Can you point out the section of the video where he “raced to the car.“ Let me know the time code where he did anything but walk and I’ll check it out

He walked briskly. If the officers were trained in H2H combat they would not have had to draw their weapons. Also, why send a woman officer there? Makes no sense.

That made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
1. He didn’t walk briskly, he walked, watch the video
2. You really think cops with guns aren’t trained to apprehend and arrest subjects?! Are you serious?
3. Why not send a woman officer? Don’t be a dick

You're just word parsing and bickering now, you couldn't be more clear you have nothing

No I’m it word parsing I’m calling out the BS spin you all are trying to use to justify this shooting. THERES A VIDEO WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT HAPPENED!! Stop lying about what happened. You said he “raced to the car” that’s a straight up lie. He clearly walked

Right, there's a video. Yet you keep contradicting the video as if we didn't see it and we don't know you're lying. The cops were behind him.

Blake had a choice. The cops didn't. You can't hide from that

For the umpteenth time it's preferable to be behind someone if you want to put him on the ground. Only you think it's easier to put a guy on the ground from in front of him

For the umpteenth time, taking him down isn't the challenge. That's like 5% of it

no it's more like 95% of it

No...it’s like 5% of it and not as easy as you think. Ever been in a fight? Real tough fight?

Yeah I've been in fights. I grew up in the shit end of a city and am well acquainted with violence. I know that 2 guys can almost always take down one unarmed guy.



2 cops armed with various weapons and trained to physically subdue people should always be able to take down one unarmed guy.

They do that and he grabs one of the guns and its over. Not that simple and almost always is not always. It is not in their protocol to do that. You know that but are playing coy, why?

I'm done arguing with you we will not agree so continuing is a waste of time

I accept your surrender. Stop watching Steven Segal movies and join the real world.

 

[esalla]

The fools are morons shooting people in the back because they do not have the balls to face a potential enemy head on.

Keep babbling you triggered fool

You don't even have a clue about what is being discussed here.
Only humans are allowed to post in this forum, not baboons.

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Only baboons like you are gutless enough to shoot people in the back.

No actually baboons are smarter than you