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outrage? do you know how many black teenagers are purposefully gunned down in the streets in American cities? Where the fuck is the outrage there?
People are making this out like it is an injustice perpetrated by the system. It isn't. It was a dispute between two citizens that ended in tragedy.
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Why does MarcATL want a lynch mob before all evidence is in? Is his mind affected by some kind of mental illness? This is a serious question. MarcATL and a few other people have become completely unhinged over a tragedy that is not theirs.
What is it about lonely shut-ins with internet service that makes them so angry and irrational?
A dispute?
Chasing down a teenager because you have issues with black men is a dispute?
One person tracking and one person fleeing is not a dispute.
Try again.
Chasing down? hmmmmm....
because the man was black? double hmmmmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm....
fleeing? who? the kid who confronted the man and started a verbal dispute - according to his girlfriend?
There are laws, so unless he broke them, they don't arrest anyone.I really don't see what is so hard to understand about this case. The guy with the weapon, that outweighs the weaponless victim by 100 pounds, shot him in self defense. So he says. What exactly was he defending himself against?? What is so damn hard??? Arrest him!!!
There are laws, so unless he broke them, they don't arrest anyone.I really don't see what is so hard to understand about this case. The guy with the weapon, that outweighs the weaponless victim by 100 pounds, shot him in self defense. So he says. What exactly was he defending himself against?? What is so damn hard??? Arrest him!!!
He killed someone, but he did NOT break the law in Florida.There are laws, so unless he broke them, they don't arrest anyone.I really don't see what is so hard to understand about this case. The guy with the weapon, that outweighs the weaponless victim by 100 pounds, shot him in self defense. So he says. What exactly was he defending himself against?? What is so damn hard??? Arrest him!!!
He did break a law. He killed someone.
There are laws, so unless he broke them, they don't arrest anyone.I really don't see what is so hard to understand about this case. The guy with the weapon, that outweighs the weaponless victim by 100 pounds, shot him in self defense. So he says. What exactly was he defending himself against?? What is so damn hard??? Arrest him!!!
He did break a law. He killed someone.
Former F.B.I. agent Michael Tabman, says while he wants to make it clear George Zimmerman deserves to be innocent until proven guilty, he thinks police in Florida should have handled the case differently.
You have an armed person shooting an unarmed person. The person who was armed certainly appears to have been the aggressor. I dont know why the case seemed to be dropped as quickly as it was dropped, Tabman said.
Protesters Demand Justice for Florida Teen
Tabman said he doesnt necessarily believe Zimmerman is guilty, but police should have done more to investigate the case when it happened February 26th.
The more time that passes since the occurrence of a crime, the harder it is to prove, he said.
Retired F.B.I. Agent: Florida Police Mishandled Trayvon Martin Case | fox4kc.com
Yeah, whatcha gonna do with all those southern white racists!
Southern white racisst are not involved in the tragedy. Like others, they may insert themselves into a public debate over it, but this is about law and the justice system.
People need to recognize this or our system is in more trouble than before.
please, this thread is about the law and the justice system. we can play with our dicks in another thread? next time, please link to anything you post or in this thread I will report you for being an illegal alien fuck faceAnd yet, quoting Mr. Zimmerman, "They ALWAYS get away". What does that mean exactly?
UPDATE 3, 9:30 p.m. EDT, Monday, March 19: Where is Trayvon Martin's cellphone?
When Trayvon Martin was killed, all he had were Skittles, iced tea...and a cellphone, authorities told the L.A. Times. The phone has been mentioned in multiple reports in recent days, and journalists and concerned citizens are starting to ask: Where is Trayvon's phone? Why did the police on the scene of the shooting not use it to identify Martin, or contact his next of kin? "Trayvon's body was bagged and taken to the morgue, where he was tagged as a John Doe," writes African American affairs blogger Sandra Rose. "No one contacted Trayvon's family even though police had Trayvon's cell phone in their possession."
The lack of information about Martin's phone is feeding further skepticism about the police's conduct, and it's led New York Times columnist Charles Blow to start a new meme on Twitter:
Charles M. Blow ✔@CharlesMBlow Make this trend: Where is Trayvon's cellphone?
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Why is the history of the Sanford Police Department in question?
Sanford PD's officers have suffered a series of public missteps in recent years, according to local reporters. In 2006 two private security guardsthe son of a Sanford police officer, and a volunteer for the departmentkilled a black teen with a single gunshot in his back. Even though they admitted to never identifying themselves, the guards were released without charges. In 2009, after an assailant allegedly attempted to rape a child in her home, the department was called to task for sitting on the suspect's fingerprints, delaying identification and pursuit of the attacker.
Perhaps the most significant incident occurred in late 2010: Justin Collison, the son of a Sanford PD lieutenant, sucker-punched a homeless black man outside a bar, and officers on the scene released Collison without charges. He eventually surrendered after video of the incident materialized online. The police chief at the time was ultimately forced into retirement. "Bottom line, we didn't do our job that night," a Police Department representative told WFTV of the incident. The TV station later learned that the Sanford patrol sergeant in charge on the night of Collison's assault, Anthony Raimondo, was also the first supervisor on the scene of Trayvon Martin's shooting death.
As a result of these incidents and their initial handling of Martin's death, the Sanford Police Department has been under increased scrutiny. Martin's parents have suggested they might call for Police Chief Bill Lee to resign.
UPDATE 14, 12:45 EDT, Wednesday, March 21: Is a Koch brothers group behind the "stand your ground" laws?
Media Matters reports that a notorious Koch brothers-funded lobby group may have played a leading role in writing and passing the 2005 Florida self-defense law that's reportedly hindering prosecution against George Zimmerman.
As Mother Jones has reported before, the American Legislative Exchange Council often writes conservative legislation that finds its way onto the lawbooksit's shaped energy laws, as well as labor fights in Wisconsin and Michigan. (It's also recently been caught red-handed passing its legislation onto lawmakers in Florida.) But Media Matters says ALEC has also teamed up with the National Rifle Association to pass "stand your ground" legislation to protect shooters:
PDATE 15, 3:30 p.m. EDT, Wednesday, March 21: Glenn Beck website calls Trayvon Martin "aggressor," implies he's a criminal
In a separate post here at Mother Jones, my colleague Adam Serwer has flagged two articles from the Blaze, Glenn Beck's news site, that 1) call Trayvon Martin the "aggressor," 2) intimate the furor over Martin's death is cooked up by minority racial activists, and 3) speculate that Martin was suspended from school for, possibly, maybe, "'armed robbery,' 'arson,' 'kidnapping' or 'sexual battery.'" Adam's piece is a must-read.
The Blaze pieces are written not by a random anonymous commenter but by Mytheos Holt, a Wesleyan graduate and former speechwriter for Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.). Holt claims to hail from the mean streets of Big Sur, California, where 0.3 percent of the population is African-American.
Fellow Citizens:
There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and
killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has caused a flood of questions and
strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees
of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of
Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvons family must be going though.
In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the
incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked
questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. Please understand that since this is
still an ongoing investigation, the Police Department is limited in what information it can
publicly release.
The City of Sanford is committed to insuring that justice is served and, therefore, the City of
Sanford has contacted the United States Attorney Generals Office for assistance in this matter.
The men and women of the Sanford Police Department extend our heartfelt sympathies to the
Martin family. This is indeed a tragic situation. The death of anyone due to violence, especially a
17 year old young man, is morally appalling. As this incident has generated a lot of media
attention, we wanted to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions.
Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?
When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman
provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by
physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from
making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when
any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she
is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and
in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.
According to Florida Statute 776.032 :
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of
force.
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is
justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for
the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law
enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of
his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with
any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that
the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term criminal
prosecution includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the
defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of
force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using
force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was
unlawful.
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Thank you,
Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr., ICMA-CM
City Manager
March 19, 2012
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
