I have a question for anti-theists

[esalla]

Religion is a crutch for morons

Shitting on simple religious people is a crutch for insecure narcissists.

LOL but I am the Catholic heretic who quoted the Pope

 

[rightwinger]

What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I have never had an atheist knock on my door and try to discuss their views.
I have never attended a public event where atheists try to lead the group in a declaration that God does not exist.
Looking at this forum on USMB, I don’t see any threads started by atheists to attack people’s religion.

 

[Confounding]

I have never had an atheist knock on my door and try to discuss their views.

On the rare occasion that has happened to me a simple "Thank you but I'm not interested." and a handshake has ended the encounter quite quickly.

 

[rightwinger]

I have never had an atheist knock on my door and try to discuss their views.

On the rare occasion that has happened to me a simple "Thank you but I'm not interested." and a handshake has ended the encounter quite quickly.

I do the same with the Christians who knock on my door. Don’t have the problem with other religions.
Usually they just leave but sometimes they ask little Jimmy to come forward and declare his devotion to Jesus

 

[danielpalos]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

It is not about true witness bearers only those who are false in their beliefs and practice the abomination of hypocrisy (unto God) on a for-profit basis.

Ten simple Commandments from God not the Expense of Government for the right wing to complain about!

 

[alang1216]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

Religion gives a lot of people a lot of comfort so I have nothing against it. Ignorance or lies, on the other hand, I abhor. I don't go onto Christian sites and try to educate people but I see USMB as an appropriate place. I feel the same about ignorance or lies concerning science or politics so don't think religion is anything unique to me.

 

[BreezeWood]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

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are you one of them, in blissful ignorance -
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do you attempt to correct the deplorable's, oh sorry that's not in your wheelhouse.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's very telling that you assume I'd have to be religious to have the perspective that I do. Religion has been losing power over America for generations. More and more young people are turning away every year. Religion has lost a lot of steam and it's going to continue to lose steam. The gay marriage debate is over. Soon the abortion debate will be over. Religion isn't the threat you seem to believe it is, not anymore anyway. You remind me of old people that never got over the Red scare.

The problem isn't the issues they use to get the Religious stupids to vote against their economic interests.

It's that they do to start with.

Let's take gay marriage. In a SANE world, Bush would have been voted out of office in 2004. But then he started screaming about how we needed a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage because ONE STATE had legalized it.

So he won, and preceded to mess everything up. It could have been worse, he tried to turn Social Security over to Wall Street right after he totally forgot to introduce that amendment he promised.

Trust me, religion is not going to go away in my lifetime. Yes, just because they are going to try to pretend they weren't behind the racism 50 years ago or the homophobia now, doesn't mean they get a pass for doing it. They'll just find some new "moral panic" to get people to vote against their own economic interest, and mine.

The only reason why Donald "I Fuck Porn Stars Just Like Jesus would have" Trump has a chance of winning this year is because the religious nuts are behind him. He couldn't win with just the racists.

Against their own economic interest?


Do you know how to do math joe?

Since when does a blue city have lower taxes/ lower cost of living then a red state...

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

 

[Disir]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

They aren't even trying to "shine a light". These are not the rational debates of 20 years ago or even 10 years ago:

It's about being as obnoxious as humanly possible for ego. These people are not movers and shakers. They can't possibly answer for every crazy religious individual around. They don't control anything outside of themselves. Since people know this in advance and are completely aware that attacking someone's religion does nothing more than force them to dig their heels in. Further it can only be one more way to create an us versus them sow division thing.

There are a fair number of I hate atheist threads though.

 

[Taz]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

 

[norwegen]

I have never had an atheist knock on my door and try to discuss their views.

On the rare occasion that has happened to me a simple "Thank you but I'm not interested." and a handshake has ended the encounter quite quickly.

See, atheists are just like liberals: snowflakes. Religious types who knock on an atheist's door are actually forcing their religion down the atheist's throat.

Then the atheist is . . . still an atheist. (Give me a few days to try to rationalize that.)

 

[Indeependent]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

Mostly, because you guys try to impose your stupidity on the rest of us.

If you really think Gay marriage is wrong. That's awesome. Don't have one. If you think abortion is wrong, that's awesome. Don't have one of those, either.

It's when you try to impose you silly bronze age superstitions on the rest of us, that's when I have a problem.

It gets worse, though. From a political perspective, if the GOP ran on it's own ideas of screwing the working class to benefit the investor class, they'd never win an election. The working class isn't that stupid. But you wrap that shit up in the Juicy Jesus Bacon, and they swallow that poison pill happily

So, yes, it becomes necessary to point out that your "comforting beliefs" are just churches manipulating your fear of death to gain money and power over you. It's an uphill climb, because honestly, they've been indoctrinating you since childhood.

Is religion harmful to society. Any look at history would tell you it is. When decent people started to demand an end to slavery, the slave owner could point at the Bible and show you Jesus was totally good with slavery. How many wars have been fought over religion? Not just Christianity vs. Islam, but Christianity vs. Christianity fighting over how many sacraments there are or whether or not the stale bread really turns into Jesus.

Gay couples don't bother me.
Swinging their penises in public bothers me.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

I just splaned it

 

[Indeependent]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

 

[Indeependent]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

You still haven't told us when you had this baby.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Trust me, religion is not going to go away in my lifetime.

No, but it has lost a lot of power in your lifetime and will lose even more power before you're done. They're not the threat they once were. The fight is almost over. Let people have their simple comforts.

No one wants to keep anyone from his ‘simple comforts.’

No one has a problem with theists believing whatever they might believe.

The problem is when theists attempt codify those beliefs in secular law all must follow; to compel religious conformity through force of law.

 

[Confounding]

No one has a problem with theists believing whatever they might believe.

That's not true. You might not, but at least one person in this very thread has shown otherwise.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What serves a purpose?

The belief that God takes care of everything. It's a harmless comfort to a lot of people. You don't need to try to take that away from people.

Again, no one is seeking to take anything away from anyone.

Any fault rests solely with theists in how theists respond to those who do not believe as they do.

 

[Taz]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

I just splaned it

God makes babies suffer so you can try to pass a test?