I have a question for anti-theists

[ding]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

We’re talking about why god makes deformed and retarded babies that live in constant pain. Try to keep up.

Deformed and retarded babies live in constant pain?
No.

I know people with problems and people who have children with problems and these unfortunate children do not live in constant pain.

Did you ever have a migraine where it feels like a white hot knife stabbing it's way out of your brain?

Some do, google it.

How many?
My mother-in-law went through the Holocaust and suffered when she got older and she never had your attitude.

Enough, god makes them suffer on purpose.

Makes or Allows?
What is the purpose?
Your belief makes everyone's existence totally pointless since you consider death to be the final arbiter.

Makes or made a universe that allows such barbarity is the same thing.

After death you will likely be reborn. So death isn't the final anything.

You will probably come back as a herpes virus.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

LMFAO! Civil war? Those aren't combat deaths, genius. They're executions, gulag deaths, and deaths caused by the kulak relocations. And, again, I never said 20 million. I pointed out only the 3 million attributed to him by the Soviet archives. So many strawmen, so little time to kick them over, huh?

3 million in a civil war isn't a big deal.

Russia did have a civil war, I realize that they never taught you this in home school.

Edit: What civil war are you even talking about? I can't seem to find any record of one occurring in the USSR after Stalin took power in 1924. You sure you're not just making shit up?

Russian Civil War..

Russian Civil War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, just making sure there wasn't some second Russian Civil War that I wasn't aware of. The one to which you've linked ran from 1917 until 1922. The 3 million number from the Kremlin comes from well after that.

800k executions of "criminal and political" prisoners happened primarily between 1937 and 38. The initial arrests were mostly made citing counterrevolution laws. 15 years after the Russian Civil War.

1.7 million deaths in the gulags between 1929 and 1953, 7 years after the Russian Civil War.

390k killed during the forced resettlement of the kulaks, which happened in the 1930's, at least 8 years after the Russian Civil War.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, just making sure there wasn't some second Russian Civil War that I wasn't aware of. The one to which you've linked ran from 1917 until 1922. The 3 million number from the Kremlin comes from well after that.

Meh, don't care.... also don't really believe that.

Again, those Russian babes must have been fucking like rabbits to replace all those people who were supposedly killed.

 

[Taz]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

We’re talking about why god makes deformed and retarded babies that live in constant pain. Try to keep up.

Deformed and retarded babies live in constant pain?
No.

I know people with problems and people who have children with problems and these unfortunate children do not live in constant pain.

Did you ever have a migraine where it feels like a white hot knife stabbing it's way out of your brain?

Some do, google it.

How many?
My mother-in-law went through the Holocaust and suffered when she got older and she never had your attitude.

Enough, god makes them suffer on purpose.

Makes or Allows?
What is the purpose?
Your belief makes everyone's existence totally pointless since you consider death to be the final arbiter.

Makes or made a universe that allows such barbarity is the same thing.

After death you will likely be reborn. So death isn't the final anything.

You will probably come back as a herpes virus.

Have a link? No? Then fuck off.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Yeah, just making sure there wasn't some second Russian Civil War that I wasn't aware of. The one to which you've linked ran from 1917 until 1922. The 3 million number from the Kremlin comes from well after that.

Meh, don't care.... also don't really believe that.

Again, those Russian babes must have been fucking like rabbits to replace all those people who were supposedly killed.

After looking into the accuracy of the rest of your claims, I highly doubt that you've got the context to make those overall population numbers mean anything in the first place.

 

[JoeB131]

After looking into the accuracy of the rest of your claims, I highly doubt that you've got the context to make those overall population numbers mean anything in the first place.

Again, buddy, you go on with your Bircher Numbers. The Commies are hiding under your bed.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

After looking into the accuracy of the rest of your claims, I highly doubt that you've got the context to make those overall population numbers mean anything in the first place.

Again, buddy, you go on with your Bircher Numbers. The Commies are hiding under your bed.

Lmfao. Fuckin sad that you resort to this when you run out of arguments. Enjoy the rest of your day

 

[JoeB131]

Lmfao. Fuckin sad that you resort to this when you run out of arguments. Enjoy the rest of your day

Again, the 1950's called, they want Joe McCarthy's corpse back.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Lmfao. Fuckin sad that you resort to this when you run out of arguments. Enjoy the rest of your day

Again, the 1950's called, they want Joe McCarthy's corpse back.

Again, you're a fucking brainlet with no actual argument other than to insult me. Go fuck yourself, we're done here.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, you're a fucking brainlet with no actual argument other than to insult me. Go fuck yourself, we're done here.

Yes, yes, McCarthyite propaganda is a fantastic argument.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Mostly, because you guys try to impose your stupidity on the rest of us.

All organizations are inclined to do that, otherwise they dissolve, because of a lack of participation. Why can't you critical thinkers figure that out?

If you really think Gay marriage is wrong. That's awesome. Don't have one. If you think abortion is wrong, that's awesome. Don't have one of those, either.

Politics - kind of irrelevant to the OP.

It's when you try to impose you silly bronze age superstitions on the rest of us, that's when I have a problem.

You back on track with a reiteration of your first argument!!!! WOW - you really are an independent critical thinker - aren't you?

It gets worse, though. From a political perspective, if the GOP ran on it's own ideas of screwing the working class to benefit the investor class, they'd never win an election. The working class isn't that stupid. But you wrap that shit up in the Juicy Jesus Bacon, and they swallow that poison pill happily

Now you swing back to the irrelevant political perspective, and I bet you don't know why you do that - do you?

So, yes, it becomes necessary to point out that your "comforting beliefs" are just churches manipulating your fear of death to gain money and power over you. It's an uphill climb, because honestly, they've been indoctrinating you since childhood.

And political organizations are not like that???

Is religion harmful to society. Any look at history would tell you it is. When decent people started to demand an end to slavery, the slave owner could point at the Bible and show you Jesus was totally good with slavery. How many wars have been fought over religion? Not just Christianity vs. Islam, but Christianity vs. Christianity fighting over how many sacraments there are or whether or not the stale bread really turns into Jesus.

What do you mean, here? Society is still going, and we have history books that you can reference to make these outrageous claims. What do you care if religious people kill other religious people???

You could make the argument that strict religion retarded the evolution to the understanding of a heliocentric spherical Earth, and gravity, but you did not - you focused on something that is irrelevant, because you thought it was relevant to the OP - why?

. . . In a SANE world, Bush would have been voted out of office in 2004. . . The only reason why Donald "I Fuck Porn Stars Just Like Jesus would have" Trump has a chance of winning this year is because the religious nuts are behind him. He couldn't win with just the racists.

Way, way too much reverence on the presidency for a person who probably claims to be an independent critical thinker - what about the other branches, and the checks and balances, do they work??
Why do you revert to politics???

 

[$ecular#eckler]

It's very telling that you assume I'd have to be religious to have the perspective that I do. Religion has been losing power over America for generations. More and more young people are turning away every year. Religion has lost a lot of steam and it's going to continue to lose steam. The gay marriage debate is over. Soon the abortion debate will be over. Religion isn't the threat you seem to believe it is, not anymore anyway. You remind me of old people that never got over the Red scare.

Ha, ha, ha - good one.
Anti-theists usually do not realize that they are anti-theist, because they have considered themselves to be atheists, and atheists have very little else to do than be anti-theists. It is kind of complicated, because the leadership is not much more sophisticated to lead by figuring out what is erroneous about atheist organization. And so, atheists have developed a dogma of erroneous principles, which retard their ability to lead society towards a more reasoned social order.

For instance: if atheists were the critical thinkers that they claim to be, and free of dogma (belief in erroneous doctrine); then they would be inclined to recognize the errors in the three-part separation of government. United States Fourth Continental Congress

Have you ever heard of atheists claiming that the three-part separation theory is erroneous, and averts us from the freedoms of true liberty?

If atheists were the critical thinkers that they claim to be, then they would be inclined to recognize the errors in the library classification systems, and the adverse effect that has on the dialectic exercises in our discussions and debates, and deliberate legislatures.

 

[ding]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

We’re talking about why god makes deformed and retarded babies that live in constant pain. Try to keep up.

Deformed and retarded babies live in constant pain?
No.

I know people with problems and people who have children with problems and these unfortunate children do not live in constant pain.

Did you ever have a migraine where it feels like a white hot knife stabbing it's way out of your brain?

Some do, google it.

How many?
My mother-in-law went through the Holocaust and suffered when she got older and she never had your attitude.

Enough, god makes them suffer on purpose.

Makes or Allows?
What is the purpose?
Your belief makes everyone's existence totally pointless since you consider death to be the final arbiter.

Makes or made a universe that allows such barbarity is the same thing.

After death you will likely be reborn. So death isn't the final anything.

You will probably come back as a herpes virus.

Have a link? No? Then fuck off.

It's actually more of an educated guess that you will come back as a herpes virus.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist?

My motivation is in an effort to make the better approach to world peace.

How hurtful is religion to society in your view?

First of all, there is a problem in the traditional definition of religion that makes it a reiteration of theism, therefore it reinforces theism; but there are some dictionaries recognizing the error, but most people are unaware of the correction and its impact on theism, atheism, and humanism.

From my perspective, theist religions, are not harmful, because community is good. Theist religions are ultimately erroneous, because they lack a respect for the search for a more reliable social order. We are still in search of the reliable system of social order - theists religions are ultimately flawed, but are necessary for some resemblance of social order. The three-part separation theory of government is a good effort, but its deployment is flawed for the purpose of tremendous diversity and sophistication that society has evolved to - it needs to be corrected.

What are you trying to achieve?

That is a reiteration of the motivation question. I am trying to achieve the better approach to world peace

Why not just leave them be?

I do, because I am working on the delivery of the "atheists' replacement of the bible" argument. We need a reliable knowledge classification system and a correction for the erroneous deployment of the three-part separation theory of government.

Secular Library

Secular Library

www.secularlibrary.com

SL Chartering System - US4CC

US4CC

www.us4cc.info

 

[Taz]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

We’re talking about why god makes deformed and retarded babies that live in constant pain. Try to keep up.

Deformed and retarded babies live in constant pain?
No.

I know people with problems and people who have children with problems and these unfortunate children do not live in constant pain.

Did you ever have a migraine where it feels like a white hot knife stabbing it's way out of your brain?

Some do, google it.

How many?
My mother-in-law went through the Holocaust and suffered when she got older and she never had your attitude.

Enough, god makes them suffer on purpose.

Makes or Allows?
What is the purpose?
Your belief makes everyone's existence totally pointless since you consider death to be the final arbiter.

Makes or made a universe that allows such barbarity is the same thing.

After death you will likely be reborn. So death isn't the final anything.

You will probably come back as a herpes virus.

Have a link? No? Then fuck off.

It's actually more of an educated guess that you will come back as a herpes virus.

Ya, I'm sure you know LOTS about herpes.

 

[ding]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

I believe in God, however the problem with many if not most people who do is that they do not think things thru. All they actually believe is that God did everything and will take care of them because they believe. This is moronic

So you believe in a lame ass god who isn't perfect and makes deformed and retarded babies. Nice.

No I do not believe that God makes babies, your mother and father unfortunately did that just fine on their own

Let me rephrase that. You worship a god that made a universe in which he allowed deformed and retarded babies to happen.

And what's wrong with deformed and retarded babies?

If you abort them you failed gods test.

So why does god make babies suffer like that?

Why didn't God give you an IQ of 500?
Why didn't God design you to be a baseball player?
Why didn't God design you to be a concert pianist?
You could ask questions forever and wherever you are on the scale of humanity, someone else will always be far superior to you in one aspect of another/

We’re talking about why god makes deformed and retarded babies that live in constant pain. Try to keep up.

Deformed and retarded babies live in constant pain?
No.

I know people with problems and people who have children with problems and these unfortunate children do not live in constant pain.

Did you ever have a migraine where it feels like a white hot knife stabbing it's way out of your brain?

Some do, google it.

How many?
My mother-in-law went through the Holocaust and suffered when she got older and she never had your attitude.

Enough, god makes them suffer on purpose.

Makes or Allows?
What is the purpose?
Your belief makes everyone's existence totally pointless since you consider death to be the final arbiter.

Makes or made a universe that allows such barbarity is the same thing.

After death you will likely be reborn. So death isn't the final anything.

You will probably come back as a herpes virus.

Have a link? No? Then fuck off.

It's actually more of an educated guess that you will come back as a herpes virus.

Ya, I'm sure you know LOTS about herpes.

You mean besides that's what you will be reincarnated as?

Look she has a Taz.

 

[esalla]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist?

My motivation is in an effort to make the better approach to world peace.

How hurtful is religion to society in your view?

First of all, there is a problem in the traditional definition of religion that makes it a reiteration of theism, therefore it reinforces theism; but there are some dictionaries recognizing the error, but most people are unaware of the correction and its impact on theism, atheism, and humanism.

From my perspective, theist religions, are not harmful, because community is good. Theist religions are ultimately erroneous, because they lack a respect for the search for a more reliable social order. We are still in search of the reliable system of social order - theists religions are ultimately flawed, but are necessary for some resemblance of social order. The three-part separation theory of government is a good effort, but its deployment is flawed for the purpose of tremendous diversity and sophistication that society has evolved to - it needs to be corrected.

What are you trying to achieve?

That is a reiteration of the motivation question. I am trying to achieve the better approach to world peace

Why not just leave them be?

I do, because I am working on the delivery of the "atheists' replacement of the bible" argument. We need a reliable knowledge classification system and a correction for the erroneous deployment of the three-part separation theory of government.

Secular Library

Secular Library

www.secularlibrary.com

SL Chartering System - US4CC

US4CC

www.us4cc.info

LOL who actually put you in charge of knowledge classification systems?

Whatever that means

 

[$ecular#eckler]

LOL who actually put you in charge of knowledge classification systems?

Wake the fuck up, bitch! Who put Copernicus in charge of correctly describing the movement of the planets?
Copernican Revolution - Wikipedia
Who put Galileo Galilei in charge of what ever it is he described to be for the betterment of mankind?
Galileo Galilei - Wikipedia
Who put Isaac Newton in charge of what ever it is he described to be for the betterment of mankind?
Isaac Newton - Wikipedia
Who put Albert Einstein in charge of what ever it is he described to be for the betterment of mankind?

Albert Einstein - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Who put Christopher Columbus in charge of what ever it is he described to be for the betterment of mankind?
Christopher Columbus - Wikipedia

Whatever that means

Knowledge organization - Wikipedia
You get this through your fucking head, bitch, I recognized a deficiency in social organization and I found the problem, deliberated the functional theory, and generated the initial applications.

 

[drillit]

This is for the people that seem to think it's their mission to constantly shine a light on the ignorance of religious people. What's your motivation to try to undermine the simple and comforting beliefs of some theist? How hurtful is religion to society in your view? What are you trying to achieve? Why not just leave them be?

Because religion is the ultimate evil. With it, people can justify anything. And still do.

 

[Confounding]

Because religion is the ultimate evil. With it, people can justify anything. And still do.

You don't think people would find some other way to justify their evil in the absence of religion?