I Still Don't Know What It Is That Trump Opponents (Haters) Are Upset About

[Hector12]

Nobody likes him. Not even Democrats.

Neither Biden nor Trump has majority support. Trump is the only president on record who never had majority support during his term.

 

[Hector12]

B.S the spending is the issue, spending money we don't have.

We don't have the money because of Republican tax cuts for the rich.

 

[Hector12]

AI and photoshop is all over the internet. Nothing new there.

Funny how you dont mention Republican tax cuts for the middle class and lower. (which were more than the top bracket)

Funny also how Biden's Tax on the rich (37%) is no different than Trump's, so how "Republican" is that 37%, really ?

And Biden's 37% rich tax is a lot lower than these Republicans' tax on the rich, so you can climb down from that high horse now.

Eisenhower - 92%
Nixon - 70%
Ford - 70%
Reagan - 50% (most of his years)

Also, I suppose you know that recessions have a major impact on national debt growth, right ? Well, Trump had 1. Obama had 7, and Biden has had 3 (so far).

Now let's talk about the debt.

Obama's years were 2009-2016. The debt rose $7,663 Billion.
With Trump, I exclude 2020, because that was the pandemic, which was not his doing. It came from & was maintained by Democrats..
So in Trump's Years of 2017 - 2019, the debt rose $2,474. (less than 1/3 of the increase of Obama.

Being a former economics teacher, I would be remiss to not mention that debt alone is an incomplete measure. A more complete examination comes from debt/GDP (debt to GDP ratio). With that Obama has a 23% increase. Trump 3%. What does David Stockman have to say about that ?

US National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt was over $31 trillion in 2022. In 1930, it was just $16 billion. The biggest impacts have been defense spending, recessions, and recently, the pandemic.

www.thebalancemoney.com

During President Carter's last year in office in 1980, the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic spending (GDP) was 32%. After Reagan cut the top tax rate from 70% to 28% this had grown to 50%.

Because Republicans have kept the top tax rate low the national debt as a percentage of GDP rose to 129% during the last full year of Trump's presidency. By 2022 that had declined to 123%.

US National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt was over $31 trillion in 2022. In 1930, it was just $16 billion. The biggest impacts have been defense spending, recessions, and recently, the pandemic.

www.thebalancemoney.com

 

[protectionist]

Except no cognitive decline to the extent of Trump’s.

#DEMENTIADON

Nope. Trump's is 2%. Biden 60%.

 

[protectionist]

We don't have the money because of Republican tax cuts for the rich.

We are not on Republican tax cuts for the rich. We are on Democrat tax cuts for the rich. Biden's 37%.

PS - how much is the fed govt blowing on illegal aliens ? (including welfare for anchor baby families)

 

[protectionist]

Because Republicans have kept the top tax rate low the national debt as a percentage of GDP rose to 129% during the last full year of Trump's presidency.

US National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt was over $31 trillion in 2022. In 1930, it was just $16 billion. The biggest impacts have been defense spending, recessions, and recently, the pandemic.

www.thebalancemoney.com

FALSE! Democrats who have kept the top tax rate low as much as Republicans, if not more so.

• Clinton - 39.6%
• Obama - 35%
• Biden 37%
• 
  
• Eisenhower - 91-92%
• Nixon - 70%
• Ford - 70%
• Reagan - 50% (most of his years)>>

 

[Hector12]

FALSE! Democrats who have kept the top tax rate low as much as Republicans, if not more so.

• Clinton - 39.6%
• Obama - 35%
• Biden 37%
• 
  
• Eisenhower - 91-92%
• Nixon - 70%
• Ford - 70%
• Reagan - 50% (most of his years)>>

The only Democrat president who ever lowered the top tax rate was Lyndon Johnson.

 

[protectionist]

Neither Biden nor Trump has majority support. Trump is the only president on record who never had majority support during his term.

And where do you derive this "majority support" notion from ?

 

[protectionist]

The only Democrat president who ever lowered the top tax rate was Lyndon Johnson.

I thought Democrats were supposed to be the ones to RAISE the top tax rate (like in Biden's 2020 promises, which he didnt keep).

 

[protectionist]

The only Democrat president who ever lowered the top tax rate was Lyndon Johnson.

But there is one who KEPT a lowered tax rate, and didn't restore the higher rate(s), despite promising to do that >> Joe Biden.

 

[Faun]

Nope. Trump's is 2%. Biden 60%.

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Yours is 100%

 

[Faun]

FALSE! Democrats who have kept the top tax rate low as much as Republicans, if not more so.

• Clinton - 39.6%
• Obama - 35%
• Biden 37%
• 
  
• Eisenhower - 91-92%
• Nixon - 70%
• Ford - 70%
• Reagan - 50% (most of his years)>>

Liar. It was 28% when Reagan left office. Bush raised it slightly and then Clinton raised it to almost 40%.

 

[Hector12]

But there is one who KEPT a lowered tax rate, and didn't restore the higher rate(s), despite promising to do that >> Joe Biden.

MARCH 11, 2024

FACT SHEET: The President’s Budget Cuts Taxes for Working Families and Makes Big Corporations and the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share​

Since taking office, President Biden has fought to build a fairer tax system that rewards work, not wealth; asks the wealthiest Americans and largest corporations to pay their fair share; and requires all Americans to play by the same rules and pay the taxes they owe. He has already secured historic legislation to make our tax code fairer, from enacting a corporate minimum tax so that billion-dollar companies can’t get away with paying $0 in Federal income taxes to giving the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) the tools it needs to make wealthy tax cheats pay the taxes they owe.

FACT SHEET: The President’s Budget Cuts Taxes for Working Families and Makes Big Corporations and the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share | The White House

Since taking office, President Biden has fought to build a fairer tax system that rewards work, not wealth; asks the wealthiest Americans and largest corporations to pay their fair share; and requires all Americans to play by the same rules and pay the taxes they owe. He has already secured...

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[konradv]

Nope. Trump's is 2%. Biden 60%.

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#MAGALIES

 

[protectionist]

But there is one who KEPT a lowered tax rate, and didn't restore the higher rate(s), despite promising to do that >> Joe Biden.

MARCH 11, 2024

FACT SHEET: The President’s Budget Cuts Taxes for Working Families and Makes Big Corporations and the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share​

Since taking office, President Biden has fought to build a fairer tax system that rewards work, not wealth; asks the wealthiest Americans and largest corporations to pay their fair share; and requires all Americans to play by the same rules and pay the taxes they owe. He has already secured historic legislation to make our tax code fairer, from enacting a corporate minimum tax so that billion-dollar companies can’t get away with paying $0 in Federal income taxes to giving the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) the tools it needs to make wealthy tax cheats pay the taxes they owe.

FACT SHEET: The President’s Budget Cuts Taxes for Working Families and Makes Big Corporations and the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share | The White House

Since taking office, President Biden has fought to build a fairer tax system that rewards work, not wealth; asks the wealthiest Americans and largest corporations to pay their fair share; and requires all Americans to play by the same rules and pay the taxes they owe. He has already secured...

www.whitehouse.gov

There are many corporations that are not large or rich.

Biden still maintains a relatively LOW 37%, on the richest Americans. Many of them have inherited wealth, and have nothing to do with any corporation.

 

[protectionist]

#MAGALIES

Everybody knows Biden is the one with the significant cognitive problem. Bury your credibility if you choose to. Not my problem.

 

[Frankenstein]

We don't have the money because of Republican tax cuts for the rich.

if you do not spend more than you take in no problem!

 

[surada]

Other than cancelling more oil drilling, thereby doubling gas prices, thereby triggering the worst overall inflation in US history.
The dude is a MENACE.

US oil production is at an all time high. What are you talking about?

The United States imports oil from many countries, including Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Brazil. In 2022, Canada was the largest source of U.S. petroleum imports, accounting for 52% of the total, and 60% of crude oil imports. Other top sources of U.S. oil imports in March 2024 included:

Venezuela: 177,000 barrels per day
Iraq: 164,000 barrels per day
Nigeria: 138,000 barrels per day
Libya: 134,000 barrels per day
Guyana: 129,000 barrels per day

 

[surada]

During President Carter's last year in office in 1980, the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic spending (GDP) was 32%. After Reagan cut the top tax rate from 70% to 28% this had grown to 50%.

Because Republicans have kept the top tax rate low the national debt as a percentage of GDP rose to 129% during the last full year of Trump's presidency. By 2022 that had declined to 123%.

US National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt was over $31 trillion in 2022. In 1930, it was just $16 billion. The biggest impacts have been defense spending, recessions, and recently, the pandemic.

www.thebalancemoney.com

2020 was Trump's last year in office.

 

[dblack]

2020 was Trump's last year in office.

I certainly hope you're right, but what makes you so sure?