I think medical and basic food should be a right

[Peach]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

I think getting a job and supporting yourself should be a REQUIREMENT

So how would that work for poor children? Or poor senior citizens?

There you go...be a good twisted Lefty and hide behind the two percentile...always pretend the ninety eight percentile doesn't exist....you peeps are so entertaining...funny shit.

Go ahead. Guess what percent of Medicaid goes to children or the elderly.

Or is 2 percent your guess?

Awww...YES....Haha...let's steer this and make it about Medicaid.
You're in over your head with me bud...I just can't engage in your lame ass rhetoric.

Look, you don't know what the flag of the US looks like, it ain't the Stars and Bars!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think getting a job and supporting yourself should be a REQUIREMENT

So how would that work for poor children? Or poor senior citizens?

There you go...be a good twisted Lefty and hide behind the two percentile...always pretend the ninety eight percentile doesn't exist....you peeps are so entertaining...funny shit.

Go ahead. Guess what percent of Medicaid goes to children or the elderly.

Or is 2 percent your guess?

Awww...YES....Haha...let's steer this and make it about Medicaid.
You're in over your head with me bud...I just can't engage in your lame ass rhetoric.

Look, you don't know what the flag of the US looks like, it ain't the Stars and Bars!

How funny is it that he claims that Medicaid is off topic in a thread about healthcare for the poor?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

Feel free to start up a fund and put your own money into it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

 

[Anathema]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!

That's nice. The US Constitution and I disagree with you.
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Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets.

That' nice. Please feel free to move there, and leave your US Citizenship at the border.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

 

[BrokeLoser]

So how would that work for poor children? Or poor senior citizens?

There you go...be a good twisted Lefty and hide behind the two percentile...always pretend the ninety eight percentile doesn't exist....you peeps are so entertaining...funny shit.

Go ahead. Guess what percent of Medicaid goes to children or the elderly.

Or is 2 percent your guess?

Awww...YES....Haha...let's steer this and make it about Medicaid.
You're in over your head with me bud...I just can't engage in your lame ass rhetoric.

Look, you don't know what the flag of the US looks like, it ain't the Stars and Bars!

How funny is it that he claims that Medicaid is off topic in a thread about healthcare for the poor?

Is it funnier than when Loons arbitrarily omit critical elements in subject matter in a feeble attempt to steer and divert to fit their twisted narrative?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

Were people dying in the streets before 1965?

 

[Thinker101]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

Interesting...guessing the people that agree with you never had a job or any type of responsibility...and they're hoping to stay that way.

 

[NYcarbineer]

There you go...be a good twisted Lefty and hide behind the two percentile...always pretend the ninety eight percentile doesn't exist....you peeps are so entertaining...funny shit.

Go ahead. Guess what percent of Medicaid goes to children or the elderly.

Or is 2 percent your guess?

Awww...YES....Haha...let's steer this and make it about Medicaid.
You're in over your head with me bud...I just can't engage in your lame ass rhetoric.

Look, you don't know what the flag of the US looks like, it ain't the Stars and Bars!

How funny is it that he claims that Medicaid is off topic in a thread about healthcare for the poor?

Is it funnier than when Loons arbitrarily omit critical elements in subject matter in a feeble attempt to steer and divert to fit their twisted narrative?

You either support Medicaid or you don't. You don't dare answer one way or another.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

Were people dying in the streets before 1965?

I'll take that as a 'yes', you would end Medicaid. lol

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

Were people dying in the streets before 1965?

I'll take that as a 'yes', you would end Medicaid. lol

Of course. Medical care was incredibly cheaper before the government got involved to "help" everyone and grossly distorted the market.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

Meh, then let's go all the way, free cars, housing, utilities, computers, clothing, haircuts, internet, shoes, drinks, etc. You people are nutz.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

Were people dying in the streets before 1965?

I'll take that as a 'yes', you would end Medicaid. lol

Of course. Medical care was incredibly cheaper before the government got involved to "help" everyone and grossly distorted the market.

You're beginning to let your rightwing nuttiness out of the closet.

I'm taking partial credit for that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Wrong, people in society need to take responsibility for themselves and for those who physically or mentally cannot that's what we have charities for. The money is better spent there than thrown into a black hole mismanaged by government bureaucrats and used as bribes by politicians.

So would you replace Medicaid with...??...the whims of charity??

Were people dying in the streets before 1965?

I'll take that as a 'yes', you would end Medicaid. lol

Of course. Medical care was incredibly cheaper before the government got involved to "help" everyone and grossly distorted the market.

Then how is it that most advanced countries around the world with universal healthcare spend as little as one half per capita for heathcare as we do?

 

[Missourian]

Firearms ownership should be a right not just reserved for those that can afford to purchase a gun.

If you can't afford one, the government should give you one.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

Not being able to afford one is the ultimate infringement!

So, as my argument is for a right specifically enshrined in the Bill of Rights of the U.S. Constitution...that should come first...After every American that qualifies is given a free government purchased firearm at taxpayer expense...we will start working on these other freebies.

 

[imawhosure]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

We don't care what you think! And if that is the way you really feel, go help people if you want. Remember, just because YOU feel that way (emotion) doesn't mean we ALL feel that way because we THINK!

 

[BrokeLoser]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

It is absolutely the roll of the nation to make sure everyone is physically taken care of. And adequate 1st - 12th grade education is also a right for everyone, as well as basic housing. It isn't a matter of taking care of people who don't bother to take care of themselves; it is an issue of what is best for the society as a whole. If you go to 3rd world countries, you see what it is like when these things are not available for everyone. It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Not doing so is like casting off the elderly without social security or medicare: despicable.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You people really can't defend not taking care of those in real need and not providing basic education, so you make absurd, pathetic jokes about it.

Here is your answer.

I don't want to take care of anyone. That's all you need to hear. They can piss up a rope and hang themselves with it.

You are not humane, you are not evolved: if our country was filled with people like you, it would be a 3rd world country, and I'll bet you would be one of the destitute living in squalor.

No first world country on earth works on loserterian concepts so they're not believable as workable. It is just dumb. Not only economically retarded but also not moral.

I think many could get behind what you twisted souls champion with some conditions....what's your thoughts on the following:
Amend the 14th....no citizenship granted for anchor babies.
We must create a qualification process for the right to have children.
We must make it a criminal offense for unqualified citizens to procreate.

I mean, if we're gonna force good people to be fiscally responsible for the poor decisions that bad people make shouldn't the good people at least make the rules?

Patiently awaiting a coherent response. You have permission to reply.

 

[Esmeralda]

I think medical and basic food should be a right!
1. We need single payer. No one should go deep into debt and no other country allows such idiocy to occur within the first world. Fuck Paul Ryan and fuck anyone that enjoys this kind of suffering!
2. All people that can't afford to eat should be given food stamps. It is just the right thing to do!

All conservative arguments against these things are from the deep past...Somehow making people suffer is somehow good within their minds. Well, guess what, it is unacceptable to me within the riches country on earth and we shouldn't allow it. It is the right thing to do, moral thing to do and economic thing to do. When people are healthy and not hungry they can make more money + pay more taxes and enhance our economy for us all.

Because we didn't have this stuff in 1787 doesn't mean it shouldn't be a right. Things change and people wake up and look around at the nastiness within our world hoping for better.

Most of western europe work pretty freaking good and have respectable safetynets. Guess what, they're more wealthy per capital by far. How the fuck can you argue that they're failures? Why should all of our resources go to the top, while most of the country dives into the shit can.How is this good?

It is absolutely the roll of the nation to make sure everyone is physically taken care of. And adequate 1st - 12th grade education is also a right for everyone, as well as basic housing. It isn't a matter of taking care of people who don't bother to take care of themselves; it is an issue of what is best for the society as a whole. If you go to 3rd world countries, you see what it is like when these things are not available for everyone. It isn't a matter of socialism, but as a developed humane society, we need to take responsibility for the society as a whole. The poor will always be with us. People with less aptitude will always be with us. Unless we want to see them begging in the streets and living in squalor, we need to accept they are our responsibility as a society.

Not doing so is like casting off the elderly without social security or medicare: despicable.

False analogy