Idiot goes hiking in bear country during cub season unarmed

[reconmark]

So has every person who is not a vegan, ya fucking weenie. There is a difference between a carnivore eating another animal and one eating a person. At least in most people's minds there is a difference.

Ass still sore from the other day, queer?

You may have him mixed up with your sit and speak Elmo doll...

 

[BullKurtz]

So it's apparent that you were too stupid to comprehend what I wrote.
You make all imposter Marines look professionally imbecelic.

How many imposter Marines have you studied or man-eating bears for that matter? Fact of the matter is that most grizzly bear attacks end when the object of the attack is down and not moving. Other critters may have "partially consumed" the hiker.....and you misspelled "imbecilic" too, shit for brains.

 

[EverCurious]

No one needs a firearm in a National Park. There is not and should not be any hunting there. No one needs to protect themselves from bears in protected areas because people shouldn't go there and bother the protected animals, and if they do they do so with extreme caution and accept the risks. Asking for trouble is foolish, and, as usual, armed people only act more cocky because they have the weapon.
They should have put an amendment between the first and second specifying that common sense, civility and restraint was the standard of thinking at the time of the amendments.
Now, let the extremists swoop down on this totally reasonable comment.

Clearly you do not live in Alaska there4eyeM... Word of advice: Don't come up here, seriously, you'll die with that mentality. heh EVERYONE up here will tell you that if you leave the pavement you better bring a bear caliber gun, and like 75-80% are going to tell you to keep one around in the city just in case a feisty griz decides the dog on the other side of your window looks like an easier snack than the bear proof trash can contents... As you move north into polar country you'll get prob. 100%, see polar bears have the thing for human flesh, they'll actually hunt you heh


On the other hand, we don't typically kill a bear that mauls someone in a protecting their cubs situation, or even "meals on wheels" situations. We might move them out of the city, or to a different park, but in general we only shoot them if they develop dangerous habits like seeking out human's and stuff; which is pretty rare. (Except Polar's, we pretty much expect that kind of stuff from them so at most they just get moved away from the settlements; well at least by the US gov. anyway, the tribes in the bush pretty much do whatever they want about the situation - If I had to guess they likely kill and utilize blacks, griz, and polar's.)

 

[BullKurtz]

Having a weapon has nothing to do with it. In fact, it would only embolden the trigger-happy to go where they shouldn't, thus endangering animals that should be left alone and other people who are in the area.

Hey dumbass.....the hiker had every bit as much a right to be in that area as the bear did. And nobody is "trigger-happy" enough to shoot a grizz because few first shots are fatal to that bear and the shooter would end up torn to pieces...and then the law would be on him.

 

[koshergrl]

Well they have to protect stupid people from themselves and the bears will pay the penalty.

This guy, according to the article, was an experienced hiker. Guess not.

Who goes into bear country unarmed??

You can't cure stupid but it can be eaten.

Having a weapon has nothing to do with it. In fact, it would only embolden the trigger-happy to go where they shouldn't, thus endangering animals that should be left alone and other people who are in the area.

Wow, you're a fucking idiot, lolol.

And I can only dream that you will lope about in bear country, unarmed, someday, singing dippy hippy sappy lullabies to the very end.

 

[Mr Natural]

The hiker was past President of his local chapter of "The Young Democrat Party'.
That should pretty much explain why he was such an idiot.

Of course he was a Democrat.

Conservatards spend their time sitting on their fat asses eating Bon Bons and watching Fox news.

 

[WinterBorn]

So has every person who is not a vegan, ya fucking weenie. There is a difference between a carnivore eating another animal and one eating a person. At least in most people's minds there is a difference.

Ass still sore from the other day, queer?

You must be thinking of some other man you had sex with. Spare me your fantasies and try to stay on topic.

 

[WinterBorn]

So it's apparent that you were too stupid to comprehend what I wrote.
You make all imposter Marines look professionally imbecelic.

How many imposter Marines have you studied or man-eating bears for that matter? Fact of the matter is that most grizzly bear attacks end when the object of the attack is down and not moving. Other critters may have "partially consumed" the hiker.....and you misspelled "imbecilic" too, shit for brains.

No, what makes you look like an imbecile is that you compare a predator eating it's natural prey with a bear eating a hiker.

 

[Ravi]

No one needs a firearm in a National Park. There is not and should not be any hunting there. No one needs to protect themselves from bears in protected areas because people shouldn't go there and bother the protected animals, and if they do they do so with extreme caution and accept the risks. Asking for trouble is foolish, and, as usual, armed people only act more cocky because they have the weapon.
They should have put an amendment between the first and second specifying that common sense, civility and restraint was the standard of thinking at the time of the amendments.
Now, let the extremists swoop down on this totally reasonable comment.

I feel bad that the guy got killed, but if you've ever been to Yellowstone you will see all kinds of idiots trying to cozy up with grizzlies.

 

[Syriusly]

gets killed. Now the park service wants to kill the bear for defending her c ubs, AND kill the cubs too. Where are the Cecil the lion people?

Grizzly suspected of killing Yellowstone hiker will likely be euthanized with cubs - The Washington Post

I am not sure what your outrage is about. Millions of people hike around Yellowstone without getting attacked. But when an attack does happen they take the precaution of killing the animal because a predator that has eaten humans might develop a taste for them.

The last fatality caused by a bear attack occurred in 2011, a year when two people were killed in separate incidents, according to the National Park Service. Those deaths were the first to occur in the park in 25 years, Campbell told The Post.


“Since 1916, the first year anyone was recorded being killed by a bear in the park, there have been eight fatalities,” she said. “It’s very rare.”


Between 674 and 839 grizzly bears are thought to roam the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, according to the National Park Service.

 

[koshergrl]

My cousin lolol

 

[Syriusly]

No one needs a firearm in a National Park. There is not and should not be any hunting there. No one needs to protect themselves from bears in protected areas because people shouldn't go there and bother the protected animals, and if they do they do so with extreme caution and accept the risks. Asking for trouble is foolish, and, as usual, armed people only act more cocky because they have the weapon.
They should have put an amendment between the first and second specifying that common sense, civility and restraint was the standard of thinking at the time of the amendments.
Now, let the extremists swoop down on this totally reasonable comment.

I feel bad that the guy got killed, but if you've ever been to Yellowstone you will see all kinds of idiots trying to cozy up with grizzlies.

There was an idiot who posed for a selfie with a bison who got injured. I have seen people posing way too close to elk and moose too.

When I was in Yellowstone- grizzlies kept their distance from humans and vice versa. What most likely happened in this case(pure speculation based upon lots of bear stories) is this hiker startled a mother bear- probably catching her unawares and was close enough so that bear thought the cubs were in danger and killed the hiker- and then settled in for a snack.

They warn hikers in Yellowstone to whistle, or talk loudly or even carry 'bear bells' to alert bears that they are there- usually even grizzlies will avoid humans in Yellowstone.

 

[Camp]

No one needs a firearm in a National Park. There is not and should not be any hunting there. No one needs to protect themselves from bears in protected areas because people shouldn't go there and bother the protected animals, and if they do they do so with extreme caution and accept the risks. Asking for trouble is foolish, and, as usual, armed people only act more cocky because they have the weapon.
They should have put an amendment between the first and second specifying that common sense, civility and restraint was the standard of thinking at the time of the amendments.
Now, let the extremists swoop down on this totally reasonable comment.

Clearly you do not live in Alaska there4eyeM... Word of advice: Don't come up here, seriously, you'll die with that mentality. heh EVERYONE up here will tell you that if you leave the pavement you better bring a bear caliber gun, and like 75-80% are going to tell you to keep one around in the city just in case a feisty griz decides the dog on the other side of your window looks like an easier snack than the bear proof trash can contents... As you move north into polar country you'll get prob. 100%, see polar bears have the thing for human flesh, they'll actually hunt you heh


On the other hand, we don't typically kill a bear that mauls someone in a protecting their cubs situation, or even "meals on wheels" situations. We might move them out of the city, or to a different park, but in general we only shoot them if they develop dangerous habits like seeking out human's and stuff; which is pretty rare. (Except Polar's, we pretty much expect that kind of stuff from them so at most they just get moved away from the settlements; well at least by the US gov. anyway, the tribes in the bush pretty much do whatever they want about the situation - If I had to guess they likely kill and utilize blacks, griz, and polar's.)

Not really a comparison between Alaska and Yellowstone. In the areas of the lower forty eight where bears might be confronted, even grizzly, bear spray is the favored weapon. Even those who carry a weapon will carry bear spray. Bears are fast and it takes a heck of a shot with a high caliber weapon to stop a charging grizzly or any bear for that matter. Bear spray stops them cold. They get one whiff and they want to stop and go the other way. You don't have to be accurate either. The funnel of spray covers a wide area.
The guy in Yellowstone screwed up. He had no bear spray with him.

 

[Syriusly]

Well they have to protect stupid people from themselves and the bears will pay the penalty.

This guy, according to the article, was an experienced hiker. Guess not.

Who goes into bear country unarmed??

You can't cure stupid but it can be eaten.

Having a weapon has nothing to do with it. In fact, it would only embolden the trigger-happy to go where they shouldn't, thus endangering animals that should be left alone and other people who are in the area.

Wow, you're a fucking idiot, lolol.

And I can only dream that you will lope about in bear country, unarmed, someday, singing dippy hippy sappy lullabies to the very end.

Millions hike in bear country unarmed every year.

More likely to be hit by lightning while on the hike.

 

[WinterBorn]

They advise people hiking in bear country to know the difference between black bears and grizzlies. They also advise them to wear bells and carry pepper spray. While you are out in bear country, it is adviseable to watch for bear scat and know the difference between black bear and grizzly droppings. Black bear droppings will be smaller and have berry seeds. Grizzly droppings will have small bells in it and smell like pepper spray.

 

[EverCurious]

Truth with peeps and petting wild animals: Woman trying to pet a moose in Alaska park gets kick - Fairbanks Daily News-Miner Alaska News


For information purposes with bears: Bear Safety

Yea, I forget about bear spray, actually has a higher reliability than guns because /anyone/ can use bear spray, guns require better aim - and even bear killer caliber's need a head shot (and even then you're still likely to get mauled; tough ass critters them bears.) Bear spray is a cloud so it's a lot more effective on blacks and griz's as long as you don't upwind it back into your own face, or ya know fi they're protecting cubs then it just pisses them off more (makes you appear as even more of a threat - fem griz has zero qualms about risking death to save her cubs) Polars... yea not so much, they don't mind fighting for their meal, of course you won't find them in the lower 48 so that's a bit moot heh A gun has the sound though, just like the human voice ya know, it's "uniquely human" so a gun shot will often scare a bear off a charge, of course by the time one pulls it in a charge it's often too late to do anything /but/ pray you hit lethal regardless. Bear spray you can carry out without too much danger, gun not as much, specially if you're trekking through the bush, barrel gets caught on everything and such plus it's just not comfortable to hang onto safely "at the ready" for hours like bear spray.

Either way though you've got stupid human factor, most folks that get mauled were completely unaware of the bear in the first place so by the time they realize there's a charge and their life is in immediate danger, it's way too late to do anything, even bear spray. Prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[koshergrl]

I can say with a fair degree of authority that 100 percent of the people killed by bears don't have a gun on them at the time of the mauling.

 

[EverCurious]

I'll agree with that, but only because they dropped it before Mr/Mrs. Bear fucked their world heh

 

[sear]

A gun is much like a vaccine.

It's better to have it and not need it,
than to need it and not have it.

 

[reconmark]

Seems the fake Marine has decided to throw in his intellectually empty hat.