If A President Trump Can Successfully Claim National Emergency For A Wall

Wasn’t emergency until Rush and Coulter told Trump he owns them a fucking wall.


The Dems have been talking about the crisis for years and promised to have an actual border. Trump is just the first one who actually wants to address it.

Meanwhile, we have millions more illegals now and crime is way up because of the porous border. Time to do something NOW.
 
Just the stats regarding illegal immigration, the high amount of drug trafficking and the high number of murders, rapes and assaults by illegal aliens is enough reason to spend money to secure the border. Why the hell are the Dems against stopping the crimes?

Explain how the left would take our guns if it could save one life and yet they won't build a fence to save thousands of lives and prevent rapes. The left clearly has no interest in public safely and all they care about is their own agenda.

Read Cloward-Piven strategy to understand why they are deliberately trying to overwhelm us, disarm us and convince the useful idiots to cede their rights to government. If you don't see what is going on, you are either a complete idiot or you are in denial.


"President Donald Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build a wall along the southern border. He has said that, if necessary, he may declare a “national emergency” and act unilaterally, and that he has the authority to do so.

As is the case any time a president attempts to circumvent Congress and act unilaterally, there is the legal question of whether he can do so and the normative question of whether he should do so. This article addresses only the legal question at hand.

In brief, Trump has a strong argument to make that he, in fact, has the authority to act unilaterally. But in order to explain why, let me lay out the relevant facts.

Groundwork for National Emergency Claim
In his primetime address Tuesday night and through other information that has been disseminated by the White House, the president began to lay the groundwork for declaring a national emergency.

TRENDING: Supreme Court Appears Ready To Strike Down Restrictive Alcohol Law

Here are some of the points the administration has been making for their case:

  • Arguing that the flow of drugs across the border has dramatically increased, claiming that 90 percent of illegal drugs entering our country come across the southern border and that during the last fiscal year, there was a 73 percent increase in fentanyl (amounting to 2,400 pounds) and a 38 percent increase in methamphetamine and heroin coming over the southern border.
  • Citing profits being made by “coyotes” who carry migrants across the border as well as the horrific conditions to which those migrants are subjected. The administration claims that criminal organizations derive $2.5 billion in profits every year from smuggling migrants into the U.S., and that 68.3 percent of all migrants report having been subjected to an act of violence and 31 percent of female migrants report having been sexually assaulted while en route.
  • Highlighting the fact that during the last fiscal year, Customs and Border Patrol agents stopped 17,000 adults at the southern border who had criminal records, and that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents apprehended 6,000 known or suspected gang members at the border.
  • Pointing to the mayhem wrought by many of the illegal aliens who successfully entered our country. In his speech, the president noted that over the last two years, 266,000 illegal immigrants have been charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
  • Arguing that with caravans of people arriving at the border, the system is simply overwhelmed. The administration is claiming that during the last fiscal year, 60,000 unaccompanied children and 161,000 family units arrived at the border; that 98 percent of family units and unaccompanied alien children are never removed; that there has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years; and that immigration courts currently have a backlog of nearly 800,000 cases.
  • Noting that many Democrats who now oppose building a wall once supported the concept. Indeed, in 2006, 26 Democratic senators — including Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden — voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act, which empowered the Department of Homeland Security to build “physical infrastructure enhancements” along the border. Congress, however, has never appropriated the funds for this purpose."

State of 'National Emergency'? The Law Is Firmly on Donald Trump's Side

The President can declare a national emergency over anything he wants. We are still under a national emergency from 9/11/2001.

The upshot is that it can be construed as an abuse of power since this would be done over a policy initiative that is, in no way, a decisive remedy to the issues you brought up in your OP.


Then why do most border agents recommend a wall? and why would you side with politicians who know nothing of the realities on the ground?

It would make patrolling easier for them, and make their man hours more effective.
 
Just the stats regarding illegal immigration, the high amount of drug trafficking and the high number of murders, rapes and assaults by illegal aliens is enough reason to spend money to secure the border. Why the hell are the Dems against stopping the crimes?

Explain how the left would take our guns if it could save one life and yet they won't build a fence to save thousands of lives and prevent rapes. The left clearly has no interest in public safely and all they care about is their own agenda.

Read Cloward-Piven strategy to understand why they are deliberately trying to overwhelm us, disarm us and convince the useful idiots to cede their rights to government. If you don't see what is going on, you are either a complete idiot or you are in denial.


"President Donald Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build a wall along the southern border. He has said that, if necessary, he may declare a “national emergency” and act unilaterally, and that he has the authority to do so.

As is the case any time a president attempts to circumvent Congress and act unilaterally, there is the legal question of whether he can do so and the normative question of whether he should do so. This article addresses only the legal question at hand.

In brief, Trump has a strong argument to make that he, in fact, has the authority to act unilaterally. But in order to explain why, let me lay out the relevant facts.

Groundwork for National Emergency Claim
In his primetime address Tuesday night and through other information that has been disseminated by the White House, the president began to lay the groundwork for declaring a national emergency.

TRENDING: Supreme Court Appears Ready To Strike Down Restrictive Alcohol Law

Here are some of the points the administration has been making for their case:

  • Arguing that the flow of drugs across the border has dramatically increased, claiming that 90 percent of illegal drugs entering our country come across the southern border and that during the last fiscal year, there was a 73 percent increase in fentanyl (amounting to 2,400 pounds) and a 38 percent increase in methamphetamine and heroin coming over the southern border.
  • Citing profits being made by “coyotes” who carry migrants across the border as well as the horrific conditions to which those migrants are subjected. The administration claims that criminal organizations derive $2.5 billion in profits every year from smuggling migrants into the U.S., and that 68.3 percent of all migrants report having been subjected to an act of violence and 31 percent of female migrants report having been sexually assaulted while en route.
  • Highlighting the fact that during the last fiscal year, Customs and Border Patrol agents stopped 17,000 adults at the southern border who had criminal records, and that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents apprehended 6,000 known or suspected gang members at the border.
  • Pointing to the mayhem wrought by many of the illegal aliens who successfully entered our country. In his speech, the president noted that over the last two years, 266,000 illegal immigrants have been charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
  • Arguing that with caravans of people arriving at the border, the system is simply overwhelmed. The administration is claiming that during the last fiscal year, 60,000 unaccompanied children and 161,000 family units arrived at the border; that 98 percent of family units and unaccompanied alien children are never removed; that there has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years; and that immigration courts currently have a backlog of nearly 800,000 cases.
  • Noting that many Democrats who now oppose building a wall once supported the concept. Indeed, in 2006, 26 Democratic senators — including Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden — voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act, which empowered the Department of Homeland Security to build “physical infrastructure enhancements” along the border. Congress, however, has never appropriated the funds for this purpose."

State of 'National Emergency'? The Law Is Firmly on Donald Trump's Side


There is no National emergency--so says 9 REPUBLICAN congressional districts along the border. And they sure as hell don't want any more walls.
GOP Rep. Will Hurd on border wall shutdown: ‘If this is a crisis, the people that are dealing with this crisis should get paid’
https://personalliberty.com/gop-rep-will-hurd-tells-trump-to-put-his-money-where-his-mouth-is/
http://savemyrights.com/will-hurd-calls-for-high-tech-wall/
 
Just the stats regarding illegal immigration, the high amount of drug trafficking and the high number of murders, rapes and assaults by illegal aliens is enough reason to spend money to secure the border. Why the hell are the Dems against stopping the crimes?

Explain how the left would take our guns if it could save one life and yet they won't build a fence to save thousands of lives and prevent rapes. The left clearly has no interest in public safely and all they care about is their own agenda.

Read Cloward-Piven strategy to understand why they are deliberately trying to overwhelm us, disarm us and convince the useful idiots to cede their rights to government. If you don't see what is going on, you are either a complete idiot or you are in denial.


"President Donald Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build a wall along the southern border. He has said that, if necessary, he may declare a “national emergency” and act unilaterally, and that he has the authority to do so.

As is the case any time a president attempts to circumvent Congress and act unilaterally, there is the legal question of whether he can do so and the normative question of whether he should do so. This article addresses only the legal question at hand.

In brief, Trump has a strong argument to make that he, in fact, has the authority to act unilaterally. But in order to explain why, let me lay out the relevant facts.

Groundwork for National Emergency Claim
In his primetime address Tuesday night and through other information that has been disseminated by the White House, the president began to lay the groundwork for declaring a national emergency.

TRENDING: Supreme Court Appears Ready To Strike Down Restrictive Alcohol Law

Here are some of the points the administration has been making for their case:

  • Arguing that the flow of drugs across the border has dramatically increased, claiming that 90 percent of illegal drugs entering our country come across the southern border and that during the last fiscal year, there was a 73 percent increase in fentanyl (amounting to 2,400 pounds) and a 38 percent increase in methamphetamine and heroin coming over the southern border.
  • Citing profits being made by “coyotes” who carry migrants across the border as well as the horrific conditions to which those migrants are subjected. The administration claims that criminal organizations derive $2.5 billion in profits every year from smuggling migrants into the U.S., and that 68.3 percent of all migrants report having been subjected to an act of violence and 31 percent of female migrants report having been sexually assaulted while en route.
  • Highlighting the fact that during the last fiscal year, Customs and Border Patrol agents stopped 17,000 adults at the southern border who had criminal records, and that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents apprehended 6,000 known or suspected gang members at the border.
  • Pointing to the mayhem wrought by many of the illegal aliens who successfully entered our country. In his speech, the president noted that over the last two years, 266,000 illegal immigrants have been charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
  • Arguing that with caravans of people arriving at the border, the system is simply overwhelmed. The administration is claiming that during the last fiscal year, 60,000 unaccompanied children and 161,000 family units arrived at the border; that 98 percent of family units and unaccompanied alien children are never removed; that there has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years; and that immigration courts currently have a backlog of nearly 800,000 cases.
  • Noting that many Democrats who now oppose building a wall once supported the concept. Indeed, in 2006, 26 Democratic senators — including Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden — voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act, which empowered the Department of Homeland Security to build “physical infrastructure enhancements” along the border. Congress, however, has never appropriated the funds for this purpose."

State of 'National Emergency'? The Law Is Firmly on Donald Trump's Side

The President can declare a national emergency over anything he wants. We are still under a national emergency from 9/11/2001.

The upshot is that it can be construed as an abuse of power since this would be done over a policy initiative that is, in no way, a decisive remedy to the issues you brought up in your OP.


Then why do most border agents recommend a wall? and why would you side with politicians who know nothing of the realities on the ground?

It would make patrolling easier for them, and make their man hours more effective.

I would imagine it would make their jobs easier. I am under no illusions that it will make a difference. I don't think the CBP folks are either. Unlike the blob.
 
Just the stats regarding illegal immigration, the high amount of drug trafficking and the high number of murders, rapes and assaults by illegal aliens is enough reason to spend money to secure the border. Why the hell are the Dems against stopping the crimes?

Explain how the left would take our guns if it could save one life and yet they won't build a fence to save thousands of lives and prevent rapes. The left clearly has no interest in public safely and all they care about is their own agenda.

Read Cloward-Piven strategy to understand why they are deliberately trying to overwhelm us, disarm us and convince the useful idiots to cede their rights to government. If you don't see what is going on, you are either a complete idiot or you are in denial.


"President Donald Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build a wall along the southern border. He has said that, if necessary, he may declare a “national emergency” and act unilaterally, and that he has the authority to do so.

As is the case any time a president attempts to circumvent Congress and act unilaterally, there is the legal question of whether he can do so and the normative question of whether he should do so. This article addresses only the legal question at hand.

In brief, Trump has a strong argument to make that he, in fact, has the authority to act unilaterally. But in order to explain why, let me lay out the relevant facts.

Groundwork for National Emergency Claim
In his primetime address Tuesday night and through other information that has been disseminated by the White House, the president began to lay the groundwork for declaring a national emergency.

TRENDING: Supreme Court Appears Ready To Strike Down Restrictive Alcohol Law

Here are some of the points the administration has been making for their case:

  • Arguing that the flow of drugs across the border has dramatically increased, claiming that 90 percent of illegal drugs entering our country come across the southern border and that during the last fiscal year, there was a 73 percent increase in fentanyl (amounting to 2,400 pounds) and a 38 percent increase in methamphetamine and heroin coming over the southern border.
  • Citing profits being made by “coyotes” who carry migrants across the border as well as the horrific conditions to which those migrants are subjected. The administration claims that criminal organizations derive $2.5 billion in profits every year from smuggling migrants into the U.S., and that 68.3 percent of all migrants report having been subjected to an act of violence and 31 percent of female migrants report having been sexually assaulted while en route.
  • Highlighting the fact that during the last fiscal year, Customs and Border Patrol agents stopped 17,000 adults at the southern border who had criminal records, and that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents apprehended 6,000 known or suspected gang members at the border.
  • Pointing to the mayhem wrought by many of the illegal aliens who successfully entered our country. In his speech, the president noted that over the last two years, 266,000 illegal immigrants have been charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 murders.
  • Arguing that with caravans of people arriving at the border, the system is simply overwhelmed. The administration is claiming that during the last fiscal year, 60,000 unaccompanied children and 161,000 family units arrived at the border; that 98 percent of family units and unaccompanied alien children are never removed; that there has been a 2,000 percent increase in asylum claims over the last five years; and that immigration courts currently have a backlog of nearly 800,000 cases.
  • Noting that many Democrats who now oppose building a wall once supported the concept. Indeed, in 2006, 26 Democratic senators — including Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden — voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act, which empowered the Department of Homeland Security to build “physical infrastructure enhancements” along the border. Congress, however, has never appropriated the funds for this purpose."

State of 'National Emergency'? The Law Is Firmly on Donald Trump's Side

The law is not on Trump's side. The Constitution clearly states that Congress has the power of the purse and does not give a President the power to supersede that under any circumstances.

The fact is that Trump's speech was a tissue of lies. You are repeating those lies. Trump could have had money for the wall a year ago but he turned it down.
 
Can't wait for the next Democratic prez to follow Trump's lead. It would be worth a stupid wall

LOL

True that. Rounding up firearms, forced public transportation usage, etc...
Don't forget forcing citizens to swear loyalty to pc culture and ridding America of Chrostmas

Okay asshole, we are godless creatures; we don't swear on anything. I prefer a blood oath over the graves of the aborted.
 
Can't wait for the next Democratic prez to follow Trump's lead. It would be worth a stupid wall

LOL

True that. Rounding up firearms, forced public transportation usage, etc...
Don't forget forcing citizens to swear loyalty to pc culture and ridding America of Chrostmas

Okay asshole, we are godless creatures; we don't swear on anything. I prefer a blood oath over the graves of the aborted.
Okay asshole, we are godless creatures; we don't swear on anything. I prefer a blood oath over the graves of the aborted? you do? LOL
 
Can't wait for the next Democratic prez to follow Trump's lead. It would be worth a stupid wall

LOL

True that. Rounding up firearms, forced public transportation usage, etc...
Don't forget forcing citizens to swear loyalty to pc culture and ridding America of Chrostmas

Okay asshole, we are godless creatures; we don't swear on anything. I prefer a blood oath over the graves of the aborted.
Okay asshole, we are godless creatures; we don't swear on anything. I prefer a blood oath over the graves of the aborted? you do? LOL

Of course.

Now repeat after me.

I pledge allegiance to the Soros and to our nation's throat on which he stands....
 
Go for it, President Trump. The American people are on your side.
no we are not.... it is a fake Emergency... to it's very core and an ABUSE OF POWER.... if it were an emergency, he would have done something about it the past 2 years and BEFORE the Democrats took over the house.... and before RUSH and COULTER bitched

E M E R G E N CY

means emergent action HAS TO be taken....

hymning and hawing over whether he is going to declare something an emergency is simply NOT an emergency...

even a first grader, knows that....

Congress has the power to legislate and appropriate, NOT the president... and an argument over these things, and him wanting to usurp Congress's constitutional duty, IS NOT an emergency....
 
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Senate granted the president this power

They (Senate) can check and balance this power

Yet what is a National Emergency

Trump seems to can't decide and believe it is a bargaining tool

Mitch can call a vote in the Senate but he doesn't

instead he wants to watch this battle unfold from the sideline

In the end he is a good repub and will do what is good for his party

He wants ET to declare this emergency

As ET cuts back on military spending by calling troops back home

ET is hoping that this will free up money for the wall

there can only be one winner

It won't be the federal employees
 
Wasn’t emergency until Rush and Coulter told Trump he owns them a fucking wall.


The Dems have been talking about the crisis for years and promised to have an actual border. Trump is just the first one who actually wants to address it.

Meanwhile, we have millions more illegals now and crime is way up because of the porous border. Time to do something NOW.

Bullshit, Democrats were talking about humanitarian crisis - fixed not by a wall, but by stopping Trump admin famility separation policies and fixing judicial system so asylum seekers can get a hearing in court.
 
What's to stop a President Elizabeth Warren from claiming a national emergency because too many people are getting ripped off by the banks and use tax payer dollars to recompense the funds lost?

What's to stop a President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez from claiming a national emergency because too many Americans are poor and in need of health care so use billions of tax payer dollars to rectify that situation?

Is this the slippery slope Republicans are CURRENTLY clamoring for?

I didn't know a national emergency was declared. I thought Trump was just being a smart aleck.

Did he really?
 
What's to stop a President Elizabeth Warren from claiming a national emergency because too many people are getting ripped off by the banks and use tax payer dollars to recompense the funds lost?

What's to stop a President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez from claiming a national emergency because too many Americans are poor and in need of health care so use billions of tax payer dollars to rectify that situation?

Is this the slippery slope Republicans are CURRENTLY clamoring for?

I didn't know a national emergency was declared. I thought Trump was just being a smart aleck.

If so, he should stop. He doesn't have the prerequisites.

Did he really?

So far it's just been a threat. But if this President sets the precedent of using emergency powers to resolve a political dispute, it would radically increase the power of the executive branch of government and strike a serious blow to checks and balances. Many of his fascist supporters are eager for just that. If we don't stop them, they're going to turn the greatest nation in the history of the earth into a banana republic.
 

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