"If Dr. Gosnell had shot seven infants with an AR-15, it would be national news"

[JoeB131]

My bad policies? How am I responsible for the state not inspecting medical facilities despite the fact that an employee actually reported the unsanitary facilities and unlicensed caregivers to the state licensing board? Want to try and run that one out so it makes sense?

Or are you just going to keep lying?

Again- if you had state paid for abortion in the first trimester, no one would go to Gosnell in the third.

We could also talk about how "Starving the Beast" (cutting taxes so that state agencies never have enough money to do their jobs) probably contributed to the state board not following up on complaints.

Again, that is not the issue.

It is as far as I'm concerned.

Look, guys, there are one of two ways to treat Abortion.

One is to treat it as a medical issue, the other is to treat it as a moral issue.

PA Tries to treat it as a moral issue, and puts as many roadblocks to a woman getting a legal abortion as possible, from not funding them for poor people to blocking them after the 24th week.

Oh, but we won't actually fund the agencies that are supposed to check these clinics. Nope.

This is where abortion laws become kind of like the prostitution laws. Yup, we've shown our moral outrage, but we can still get what we are looking for pretty easily.

Now, if we treated it like a medical issue, poor women would be able to get abortions in the first trimester in a free clinic without having to claim rape.

A mutant like Gosnell would never exist to start with.

 

[JoeB131]

I got a question, though. Why aren't the 99 women who didn't die as a result of Gosnell's procedures on the dock with him? If he killed "100 babies" (he's only being charged with 7), then why aren't those women who brought those babies to his clinic to be killed being charged as co-conspirators..

Katz has the answer for you:

The women who went to Gosnell for an abortion did not sever the spinal cords of the babies that were born alive. Gosnell did that and it is murder. He is being charged with the murders of seven of these infants and manslaughter of the one woman who died.

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That's a nice, neat theory. But there are people serving time in prison because the either created a situation where they were a third party committed a murder, or a third party committed a murder they didn't expect, and they covered it up.

The reason why the women aren't being charged is not because they were "innocent', but because it would have been political suicide to charge them with a crime.

And this is nothing new. Back in the bad old days before Roe v. Wade, women were never charged, and abortionists were only charged when they screwed up and mauled or killed the adult patient.

The only reason why these fetal deaths are being called murder is because the authorities were able to bootstrap them onto the death of the adult woman and the drug dealing.

I have no problem with Gosnell going to prison. I have a huge problem with trying to get the camel's nose under the tent where doctors won't perform abortions out of fear of legal prosecution.

 

[OODA_Loop]

PA Tries to treat it as a moral issue, and puts as many roadblocks to a woman getting a legal abortion as possible, from not funding them for poor people to blocking them after the 24th week.

When does PA fund abortions ?

 

[JoeB131]

PA Tries to treat it as a moral issue, and puts as many roadblocks to a woman getting a legal abortion as possible, from not funding them for poor people to blocking them after the 24th week.

When does PA fund abortions ?

It doesn't. That's the problem.

 

[OODA_Loop]

PA Tries to treat it as a moral issue, and puts as many roadblocks to a woman getting a legal abortion as possible, from not funding them for poor people to blocking them after the 24th week.

When does PA fund abortions ?

It doesn't. That's the problem.

You dont know what you are talking about. But it wont stop you.

Twenty-nine states fund abortion in cases of threat to life, rape or incest (AL, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MI, MO, NE, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WY).

https://www.msu.edu/user/schwenkl/abtrbng/stablw.htm

 

[JoeB131]

When does PA fund abortions ?

It doesn't. That's the problem.

You dont know what you are talking about. But it wont stop you.

Twenty-nine states fund abortion in cases of threat to life, rape or incest (AL, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MI, MO, NE, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WY).

https://www.msu.edu/user/schwenkl/abtrbng/stablw.htm

Dumbass, we are talking about most abortiosn, not the exceptions.

Gosnell existed because Medicaid wouldn't fund abortions that were elective. So these women had to wait until they could scrape up enough money to pay for one, but by then, they were past the 24th week.

We can thank my former congressman, lying fat hypocrite Henry Hyde.

 

[OODA_Loop]

It doesn't. That's the problem.

You dont know what you are talking about. But it wont stop you.

Twenty-nine states fund abortion in cases of threat to life, rape or incest (AL, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MI, MO, NE, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WY).

https://www.msu.edu/user/schwenkl/abtrbng/stablw.htm

Dumbass, we are talking about most abortiosn, not the exceptions.

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

 

[ba1614]

Bush killed more children in Iraq in the first week of the war than this nut did.

So that justifies snipping the spinal cords of living breathing babies?

Poor America and the depths people will sink to defend their ideology beliefs.

 

[Freewill]

It doesn't. That's the problem.

You dont know what you are talking about. But it wont stop you.

Twenty-nine states fund abortion in cases of threat to life, rape or incest (AL, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MI, MO, NE, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WY).

https://www.msu.edu/user/schwenkl/abtrbng/stablw.htm

Dumbass, we are talking about most abortiosn, not the exceptions.

Gosnell existed because Medicaid wouldn't fund abortions that were elective. So these women had to wait until they could scrape up enough money to pay for one, but by then, they were past the 24th week.

We can thank my former congressman, lying fat hypocrite Henry Hyde.

And what the hell does any of that have to do with him washing his hands or killing new born babies? Nothing at all.

What is interesting is that he is a participant in the eugenics which is the driving motivation of liberals and Planned Parenthood.

 

[JoeB131]

You dont know what you are talking about. But it wont stop you.

Twenty-nine states fund abortion in cases of threat to life, rape or incest (AL, AZ, AR, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MI, MO, NE, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WY).

https://www.msu.edu/user/schwenkl/abtrbng/stablw.htm

Dumbass, we are talking about most abortiosn, not the exceptions.

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

 

[JoeB131]

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And what the hell does any of that have to do with him washing his hands or killing new born babies? Nothing at all.

What is interesting is that he is a participant in the eugenics which is the driving motivation of liberals and Planned Parenthood.

Does your doctor know you are off your medication?

I know you all think you can scream "Eugenics" and that sounds scary and stuff... but it's the women who are decided they don't want to procreate, not the government.

Now, if Gosnell and the government were driving around in a van nabbing these women off the the street, you might have a complaint.

But these women walked into his clinic under their own power, signed a bunch of paperwork, gave him money, and didn't complain when he aborted their fetuses.

Except for the woman he killed, which is what he ought to be on trial for.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Dumbass, we are talking about most abortiosn, not the exceptions.

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

Frankly, your Vorephiliac fantasies aside, not sure what you are getting at here.

Anyone with a reading comprehension ability knew exactly what I was getting at... and you focus on maybe part of the sentence your limited congative abilities understood and thought you had a point.

Nice to see those Special Ed classes are working for you, Corky.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

Frankly, your Vorephiliac fantasies aside, not sure what you are getting at here.

Anyone with a reading comprehension ability knew exactly what I was getting at... and you focus on maybe part of the sentence your limited congative abilities understood and thought you had a point.

Nice to see those Special Ed classes are working for you, Corky.

Then on cue out come the insults...mmmm more delicious cake.

 

[JoeB131]

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

Frankly, your Vorephiliac fantasies aside, not sure what you are getting at here.

Anyone with a reading comprehension ability knew exactly what I was getting at... and you focus on maybe part of the sentence your limited congative abilities understood and thought you had a point.

Nice to see those Special Ed classes are working for you, Corky.

Then on cue out come the insults...mmmm more delicious cake.

When you are wiling to have a thoughtful discussion on the point, I'll be happy to treat you seriously.

You are trying to pretend that Gosnell isn't the result of your policies when he is.

In my ideal world, poor women would get government paid for abortions in the first trimester, no muss, no fuss. Or better, they'd never get pregnant to start with because someone would have explained to them where babies come from.

But you clowns won't pay for them, will make women wait until they can scrape up enough money to pay for an abortion from a huckster like Gosnell, scare legitimate doctors out of the business by threatening (and sometimes actually) murdering them.

You made Gosnell. And frankly, when I used to be Right Wing, so did I.

Now something has to be done about it.

 

[Votto]

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

JoeB does not even think that killing viable infants is a crime. People like him are simply lying sociopaths. Why engage them in conversation? You may as well try to sit down and convince Hitler to free the Jews.

 

[JoeB131]

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JoeB does not even think that killing viable infants is a crime. People like him are simply lying sociopaths. Why engage them in conversation? You may as well try to sit down and convince Hitler to free the Jews.

Guy, when a woman goes to an abortion clinic, you don't have her a mangled infant and say, "Enjoy motherhood".

Here's the reality.

The "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" was signed by Resident Bush in 2002.

To date, not one doctor has been charged with violating it.

Not even Gosnell.

More to the point, if you are going to charge Gosnell, why not charge the women who went to his clinic to have their babies killed?

 

[JoeB131]

Judge issues gag order in Gosnell case ? NewsWorks

Common Pleas Court Judge Benjamin Lerner has imposed a gag order in the case of Kermit and Pearl Gosnell. Their lawyers won't be allowed to talk to reporters at least until the case goes to trial.



The order came following a dispute over a search of Pearl Gosnell's cell, the Inquirer reports. As she awaited release to house arrest, her cell was searched last week and letters exchanged with her husband were taken.

Until a hearing is scheduled to determine whether a search warrant -- not just the subpoena that was used -- is needed to search a cell, copies of the letters taken won't be returned to Pearl Gosnell. No further searches can be conducted without a warrant.

What? No devious conspiracy. The Judge actually gagged the lawyers from BOTH sides from talking about the case for two years?

 

[koshergrl]

You moron, the trial has been going on for some time. The reserved seating for the press has been empty. The gag order was in effect PRIOR to the trial.

Fucking pervert, now go back to your porn and dead baby whack off material.

 

[koshergrl]

Yes move the goalposts and you may eventually kick it in.

Not a matter of moving the goalposts at all. Point was, we were never talking about "Threat to the mother's life abortion" here with Gosnell. Gosnell was the threat to the mother's life.

Point = you claimed PA doesnt fund abortions. Just like earlier you clamied gosnell charged $300 and was the only game in town due to laws when it wasn't true.

You make it up as you go to suit your story. I am drawn to point it out like a fat kid to cake.

I've never seen this weirdo post anything that doesn't include at least one (and often more) blatant lies. They aren't *accidental* lies, either. They're deliberately planted to further baby killing and perversion among a certain population.

He's not just a sociopath, though he's certainly that..he's a creepy sociopath.