If Republicans Cared About Families, They’d Stop Blocking Paid Leave

[SwimExpert]

You assume birth control has a 100% success rate.

Anyone who isn't a fucking idiot should be able to accomplish 100% contraceptive success.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, you really showed those evil American Mothers. You sure did stick it to em. Seriously, is this gonna be your claim to fame? Is this gonna be something you boast about as a 'success.' I mean if it is, you guys may not see control of Congress again for many years. And forget about the White House.

Nice attempt to distract from your racist partisan rant while attempting to claim the 'morale high ground' for any one party! Now THAT is funny!

Yeah, you really showed em. Nice job.

 

[David_42]

You assume birth control has a 100% success rate.

Anyone who isn't a fucking idiot should be able to accomplish 100% contraceptive success.

Then you're truly stupid. Condoms break, BC pills mess up, people can't prevent these things. Luckily we have abortion.

 

[SAYIT]

You assume birth control has a 100% success rate.

Anyone who isn't a fucking idiot should be able to accomplish 100% contraceptive success.

And have big fun doing it!

 

[easyt65]

[QUOTE="paulitician, post: 12388328, member: 33063
Yeah, you really showed em. Nice job. [/QUOTE]

Racist Partisan....

 

[SwimExpert]

Condoms break

Not when used correctly. Use a quality brand, do not "double bag," and use "fresh" condoms (i.e. ones that have been bought recently). You're not hung like a stallion, no matter how much you want people to think you are. Condoms don't break unless you're doing something wrong.

BC pills mess up

The pill is 99.9% effective when used correctly. Use it the right way and there won't be a problem.

people can't prevent these things.

Bullshit. Use a double barrier approach, and stick to oral/anal sex for "unleashing." The sharks can't take the bait when you put them in a different tank.

 

[SAYIT]

Is this gonna be the Republican's claim to fame? Is this what they'll be boasting about as 'success?' If so, that's pretty absurd delusional thinking. The People will make them pay for this. Bet on that.

They not only won't be seeing the White House again for many many years, they won't be controlling Congress again for many years either. I would advise the Party to ditch the angry greedy white guy schtick. That time has passed. The People ain't goin for it.

What you seem to prefer is unsustainable and guarantees a lesser life for all:

INEPTOCRACY (Noun) a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or even try are rewarded - in exchange for their votes - with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

 

[easyt65]

Then you're truly stupid. Condoms break, BC pills mess up, people can't prevent these things. Luckily we have abortion.

Everything in life has some associated PERSONAL risk and a PERSONAL consequence. If you decide to have sex, with or without a contraceptive, and you end up getting pregnant, WHY do MY tax dollars have to go towards YOUR 'elective surgery'?

If I decide to go sky-diving and my chute ends up failing for whatever reason 15 feet off the ground and I shatter my leg, YOU aren't forced to pay for MY surgery.

If I decide to marry someone I just met, the marriage fails 4 months later, and I divorce my wife YOU aren't forced to pay for the divorce...or the alimony!

Part of the problem is that people have no sense of personal accountability, which we can blame in large part to jack@$$es like Obama who blame everyone else for their mistakes. If THEY do something wrong / get into trouble because of something THEY did they believe it is someone else's job to pay for it, not them.

 

[rightwinger]

Okay first off many companies already offer parental leave to both parents, mine does. We didn't need the dumb ass government to force us to offer it. Second, what makes you think other companies that are not as well off financially can just shit money out their ass to pay for this benefit? Libs seem to assume companies are greedily hoarding a huge supply of money when in fact many companies struggle and historically thousands of companies big and small have gone bust.

If the libs want to ensure that the only companies that survive their socialist agenda are the big corporations, well just keep passing more and more regulations. Hey I told you before the left is retarded.

Many marginal companies do go bust
Not a reason to sacrifice worker protections. Should we waive the 40 hour week and overtime for companies that are struggling?

 

[SAYIT]

We are, it's called maobamacare. Everyone has insurance and BC is free, pay attention to your dear leader.

Nothing is free.
To the extent there is gov't assistance available, if someone isn't carrying his or her own load, someone else is paying for it.

Bunker was a dem, of course that was before you commies took over the party.

He wouldn't be today.

 

[easyt65]

Condoms break

Not when used correctly.

When manufactured some are created with flaws...some are and have been recalled, not all before use I am sure. I just stopped with that one to advise you that your way of thinking is not 100% accurate. As they say, the only things in life that are certain are death and taxes.

 

[rightwinger]

Then you're truly stupid. Condoms break, BC pills mess up, people can't prevent these things. Luckily we have abortion.

Everything in life has some associated PERSONAL risk and a PERSONAL consequence. If you decide to have sex, with or without a contraceptive, and you end up getting pregnant, WHY do MY tax dollars have to go towards YOUR 'elective surgery'?

If I decide to go sky-diving and my chute ends up failing for whatever reason 15 feet off the ground and I shatter my leg, YOU aren't forced to pay for MY surgery.

If I decide to marry someone I just met, the marriage fails 4 months later, and I divorce my wife YOU aren't forced to pay for the divorce...or the alimony!

Part of the problem is that people have no sense of personal accountability, which we can blame in large part to jack@$$es like Obama who blame everyone else for their mistakes. If THEY do something wrong / get into trouble because of something THEY did they believe it is someone else's job to pay for it, not them.

Its the same "let em die" story from 2008
If someone chose not to have healthcare and got cancer....what should you do?

 

[easyt65]

He wouldn't be today.

Are you 'channeling' Bunker for that response? lol just curious....

 

[rightwinger]

Condoms break

Not when used correctly. Use a quality brand, do not "double bag," and use "fresh" condoms (i.e. ones that have been bought recently). You're not hung like a stallion, no matter how much you want people to think you are. Condoms don't break unless you're doing something wrong.

BC pills mess up

The pill is 99.9% effective when used correctly. Use it the right way and there won't be a problem.

people can't prevent these things.

Bullshit. Use a double barrier approach, and stick to oral/anal sex for "unleashing." The sharks can't take the bait when you put them in a different tank.

Most times birth control is effective

That is why we should make it readily available and cheap/free

 

[2aguy]

Republican "family values" don't exist, unless it involves protecting zygotes.
If Republicans Cared About Families, They’d Stop Blocking Paid Leave

Several participants at the Republican debate last week spoke fervently about putting Rosa Parks’ image on the $10 bill. They also spoke fervently in support of a decision by Congress to defund Planned Parenthood—an organization that counted Rosa Parks among the members of its national board.

The contradiction would have been obvious and painful to Ms. Parks. Like many of us, she’d have been bewildered by the priorities of candidates who have held vote after vote on shutting down vital health services for women, but won’t even schedule a hearing on the FAMILY Act, a bill to provide affordable family and medical leave. It’s impossible to care about families and leave communities bereft of services for contraception, mammograms and other cancer screenings, and dozens more critical health services for women. It’s also impossible to call yourself “pro-life” and oppose a badly-needed, common sense program to make family and medical leave affordable to care for a new child or a seriously ill family member.

In 1993, the Family and Medical Leave Act passed Congress with bipartisan support. The FMLA provided up to 12 weeks unpaid leave for care of a new child or a serious personal illness or that of a child, spouse or parent. Republicans as well as Democrats saw that valuing family meant making sure people could care for family members without losing their jobs or health insurance. Many of the state and local campaigns within Family Values @ Work’s national network have leaders from both parties—including the numerous Republicans leading the charge for the Family Care Act in Georgia.

So what’s the problem in the nation’s capital today?

The FMLA is now 22 years old. While it constituted a major breakthrough and established the principle that having a family shouldn’t cost you your job, the leave remains out of reach for millions—some because they’re not covered by its protections (two-fifths of the nation’s workforce), and many who are eligible because they cannot afford to take unpaid leave. According to a study done for the Department of Labor (DOL), nearly one in four employed mothers who are pregnant go back to work within two weeks of giving birth—with disastrous results for maternal and infant health. Others who take the time they need to heal and bond with a child often face financial hardship.

That is called stealing. When the government interferes with a business like that…they are wrong. If a business wants to pay for leave…great. It isn't the governments job to mandate it.

 

[2aguy]

Condoms break

Not when used correctly. Use a quality brand, do not "double bag," and use "fresh" condoms (i.e. ones that have been bought recently). You're not hung like a stallion, no matter how much you want people to think you are. Condoms don't break unless you're doing something wrong.

BC pills mess up

The pill is 99.9% effective when used correctly. Use it the right way and there won't be a problem.

people can't prevent these things.

Bullshit. Use a double barrier approach, and stick to oral/anal sex for "unleashing." The sharks can't take the bait when you put them in a different tank.

Most times birth control is effective

That is why we should make it readily available and cheap/free

It is readily available, cheap/free…….

And not having sex is the most readily available and cheapest birth control method…and doesn't involve the government taking money from one person to pay for another persons birth control...

 

[2aguy]

Why do you require even more govern"mental" intervention.
Private industry is free to offer paid maternity leave anytime they feel like it. Some companies have already started the ball rolling.

Four words constantly need repeating for you thick-skulled dembulbs:

LET THE MARKET DECIDE

Why not let children work in factories, underpaid and over worked? Let the market decide, works for the third world.

That is exactly what the republican tea party wants...These bastards want to destroy all the protections and regulations that have built this nation over the last 150 years.

Evil is what they're. As simply they wouldn't care if this country looks like central America as long as the rich got theirs.

The Tea Party has no position on the labor laws…nice try though…..what is it with you lefties….you just smear and smear anyone you hate...

 

[2aguy]

Hopefully they'll have a heart and change course on this one. The Republican Party is having a tough enough time trying to shed its 'Angry Greedy White Guy' image. Opposing this won't help.

And if not for the press protecting them the democrats and their racism would be easily seen by all Americans. But luckily for them….the press protects them.

 

[SAYIT]

There's a market for child labor.

There's a market for child porn in America.

Both are illegal and immoral.

 

[easyt65]

Its the same "let em die" story from 2008
If someone chose not to have healthcare and got cancer....what should you do?

'Let 'em die'?! Expecting someone to exercise some personal accountability for their own decisions is hardly the same thing as 'Let 'em die', spewed forth from a fat, ignorant now disgraced Allen Grayson , BTW!

Sorry, if 'you' CHOOSE to have un-protected sex or protected sex because YOU CHOSE to have sex and 'Shi'ite happens'....IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM!

You NOW have 2 choices:
1) Have the baby and all the life-changing things that go with it OR
2) Have ELECTIVE SURGERY (an abortion), the cost of which IS NOT MY PROBLEM

If you are a poor woman whose life is in danger and needs to have this abortion to survive, it is NOT the same thing as the above. Sure such an abortion could / should be paid for....

But YOU seem to be talking about paying for as many abortions as a person wants to have and not expecting them to be responsible adults who are responsible for their life. NO!

A woman seen at an abortion rally recently was bragging about how she has had 2 abortions and that SHE WOULD HAVE MORE IF SHE WANTED!

Again, ... Hey Lady....YOU want 'em, YOU pay for 'em!