If Republicans Cared About Families, They’d Stop Blocking Paid Leave

[David_42]

Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place, in Europe, in Latin America, in Canada..

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all, have you taken a basic history class? Why do you think governments started to protect labor? Guarantee minimum wages? End child labor? This was all happening before the state stepped in.

 

[thanatos144]

somehow us actually taking care of our families is evidence of us not caring because we don't think people should be forced to pay you for not working. This is considered logic to some.

Ill make a deal with you. Ill take care of my family with my hard work, you take of your family without work and we will see which one of us does a better job and shows that we care more.

No one is claiming that, people are working 50 hour weeks without any paid leave, millions of workers are lacking any paid leave at all, they deserve a break. They need a break.

Republicans support the notion of employees wanting a life outside the workplace is countrproductive

Conservatives have this disgusting and backwards ideological stance, constantly spitting "hard work" when failing to realize that people are working hard and getting little in return. Who works harder, the MW workers pulling 50 hours a week or the CEO telling others to do tasks in an air conditioned building.

Americans are more productive than any other workers on earth. What do they have to show for it?
Less time off, longer hours, later retirement, no paid maternity leave, fewer benefits

Republicans fight to keep it that way

Idiot it is your progressive policies that make these things a must... you really are stupid

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[M14 Shooter]

Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place, in Europe, in Latin America, in Canada..

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

 

[David_42]

Most times birth control is effective

That is why we should make it readily available and cheap/free

SEE, THIS is the B$ I have a problem with....just like with the headlines today about how OBAMA is going to pay for a new program to give free housing, food, education, and legal services to illegals, NOTHING is 'free', and OBAMA ain't paying for 'Shi'ite! NOTHING! It's all MY money and YOUR money, right out of OUR pockets.

- If ya want to have sex, get a job and PAY for a pack of condoms!

- If ya choose to have sex and get pregnant, YOU pay for the abortion if you choose to have one.

- Single mothers, the govt should step in and help pay for your 1st illegitimate child...and give you an education on how not to have another and a warning NOT to have another because tax payers aren't going to be paying for any more of your kids....

- If you have any more you can't afford the govt should step in and take the kids for their own sake

- If you have any more out of wedlock that you can't afford the govt should take them too and then sterilize you.

The govt should stop teaching 4th graders how to perform oral sex, how to masturbate, and how having 2 daddies is ok, especially since our education system blows...Johnny can't READ when he gets out of school, but he knows how to masturbate, how to orally please someone, and has a pocket full of 'free' condoms'! Good grief!

STOP teaching sex in schools - they've got that down pat now. How about teaching them some restraint and personal accountability?!

Its OUR money and We the People, as a society, pay the price for a lack of birth control

More unwanted children, more abortions, more burdens on families, more burden on the school system, more welfare

Open access to low cost birth control benefits society....pay me now or pay me more later

Right wingers seem to lack common sense.

 

[rightwinger]

That is called stealing. When the government interferes with a business like that…they are wrong. If a business wants to pay for leave…great. It isn't the governments job to mandate it.

Of course it is
It is the governments job to establish labor laws. That is why we no longer have child labor and have established a 40 hour week
The free market wouldn't do either

You don't know that.

The 40 hour workweek is a luxury not enjoyed by most biz owners (nor many salaried workers) and child labor laws are a moral imperative upon which we all agree.

Employer paid leave is not.

A 40 hour workweek is available to all business owners. So is a 20 hour workweek
What is not available is for them to force excess hours on their employees without overtime pay

 

[David_42]

Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place, in Europe, in Latin America, in Canada..

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour
Why do you think socialism spread so rapidly in Europe? In response to capitalism being out of control.

 

[easyt65]

Despite all of the GOP's campaign promises regarding helping/boosting the middle class...

In 2008 President Obama promised a black woman, according to her, that if he became President he would pay for her gasoline for her car....she's STILL waiting for that 'free' gasoline!

In 2012 President Obama promised a black woman, according to her, that he would buy her a new kitchen...she's still waiting for that new kitchen.

President Obama promised he would not abandon Detroit...and he walked away from them, it collapsed, and the city became a 'ghost town'.

Black unemployment is almost DOUBLE that of whites....

Obama PROMISED Middle Class people that his ACA disaster would 'not cost a dime', 'would pay for itself', would 'LOWER the cost of health care', would NOT cause them to lose their health care, would NOT cause them to lose their jobs....and it DID!
- The cost of health care is CLIMBING
- People DID lose their health care
- People DID lose their jobs
- Companies DID cut full-time employees' hours from 'full-time' to 'part-time' so they could avoid the ACA mandate of having to buy their employees this ridiculously expensive health care

It's all partisan B$ - from BOTH sides of the aisle - fed to people, like you, who buy into it! BOTH sides have $crewed the American people. Gruber was caught on several videos explaining how legislation is written as painfully complex as possible so the ordinary person won't be able to figure out how the govt is $crewing them, that politicians - ALL politicians - COUNT on the stupidity of the American people to allow them to continue to get away with what they are doing.

Like I said, people need to wake up and finally figure out that IT AIN'T A 'PARTY' THING, MAN...IT'S AN AMERICAN THING!

Think about it:
Millionaire elitist self-appointed 'rulers' who break the law, elevate themselves above the law, and all ignore us while fleecing us have this nation so divided that we argue with each other about whose politicians are LESS 'criminal' instead of holding them all to the same standard!

 

[David_42]

That is called stealing. When the government interferes with a business like that…they are wrong. If a business wants to pay for leave…great. It isn't the governments job to mandate it.

Of course it is
It is the governments job to establish labor laws. That is why we no longer have child labor and have established a 40 hour week
The free market wouldn't do either

You don't know that.

The 40 hour workweek is a luxury not enjoyed by most biz owners (nor many salaried workers) and child labor laws are a moral imperative upon which we all agree.

Employer paid leave is not.

A 40 hour workweek is available to all business owners. So is a 20 hour workweek
What is not available is for them to force excess hours on their employees without overtime pay

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place, in Europe, in Latin America, in Canada..

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour

Sorry,... none of this shows how "Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place'.
You'll have to do better.

 

[David_42]

Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place, in Europe, in Latin America, in Canada..

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour

Sorry,... none of this shows how "Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place'.
You'll have to do better.

Oh, they clearly show it, you can't make a connection because you're a willfully ignorant stooge.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

Mindless idiocy.
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.

When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is, of course a lie.

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour

Sorry,... none of this shows how "Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place'.
You'll have to do better.

Oh, they clearly show it,

Another lie.
Disagree?
Illustrate that necessary relationship.

 

[David_42]

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

Mindless idiocy.
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.

When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this.

LOL.

 

[David_42]

Not a lie at all,

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour

Sorry,... none of this shows how "Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place'.
You'll have to do better.

Oh, they clearly show it,

Another lie.
Disagree?
Illustrate that necessary relationship.

Every one of these countries has had significant labor movements and uprisings that causes the state to respond by pushing regulations, whether it be workplace safety, child labor, the minimum wage.. It's really not that hard.

 

[easyt65]

Its OUR money and We the People, as a society, pay the price for a lack of birth control

NO, we pay a price because a lack of personal accountability! You can get condoms now almost ANYWHERE fro free these days...and what difference has it made. There are over 5 MILLION abortions a year in this country. MORE 'free' condoms' is NOT going to change that..it just ISN'T!

The STATISTICS and FACTS prove this!
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[M14 Shooter]

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

Mindless idiocy.
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this
.

LOL.

as I said:
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this

 

[David_42]

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

Mindless idiocy.
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this
.

LOL.

as I said:
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this

Another useless deflection with no context since you know you're wrong.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Then prove it to be true.
Be sure to cite your sources.

Labor history of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Child Labour

Sorry,... none of this shows how "Unchecked capitalism was the reason government grew in the first place'.
You'll have to do better.

Oh, they clearly show it,

Another lie.
Disagree?
Illustrate that necessary relationship.

Every one of these countries has had significant labor movements and uprisings that causes the state to respond by pushing regulations, whether it be workplace safety, child labor, the minimum wage.. It's really not that hard.

Still looking for that necessary relationship.
So far, you've produced nothing but your opinion.

 

[rightwinger]

somehow us actually taking care of our families is evidence of us not caring because we don't think people should be forced to pay you for not working. This is considered logic to some.

Ill make a deal with you. Ill take care of my family with my hard work, you take of your family without work and we will see which one of us does a better job and shows that we care more.

No one is claiming that, people are working 50 hour weeks without any paid leave, millions of workers are lacking any paid leave at all, they deserve a break. They need a break.

Republicans support the notion of employees wanting a life outside the workplace is countrproductive

Conservatives have this disgusting and backwards ideological stance, constantly spitting "hard work" when failing to realize that people are working hard and getting little in return. Who works harder, the MW workers pulling 50 hours a week or the CEO telling others to do tasks in an air conditioned building.

Americans are more productive than any other workers on earth. What do they have to show for it?
Less time off, longer hours, later retirement, no paid maternity leave, fewer benefits

Republicans fight to keep it that way

Idiot it is your progressive policies that make these things a must... you really are stupid

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Interesting...please explain

 

[M14 Shooter]

Pubbies also hate the idea of overtime pay, just look at how they're responding to obamas push to expand it.

Mindless idiocy.
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this
.

LOL.

as I said:
When you have a meaningful job, you'll be exposed to this

Another useless deflection with no context since you know you're wrong.

Fact:
OT means more effort for less money, in that is cheaper to pay 1.5x than hire additional employees.
This is who employers concerned about such things offer or require overtime for employees.
You do not understand this because you have yet to find meaningful employment, where such thing occur.