If selling a gay couple a wedding cake means a "Christian" baker participated in the marriage...

[mdk]

People are generally fine with it if they one of the protected, but boy do they clutch their pearls if they feel targeted.

Well see, then all is well. It's not the people being "targeted" by Christian bakers (the clients are actually targeting him for religious persecution). It's the ritual of celebrating butt sex "as married" that moral bakers object to across the nation.

Not the person or people, the ritual they want to celebrate. This is so easy.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Then don't buy one or eat it.

I probably won't.

But if I decide I want one and you tell me you are going sell it to me, you don't get to say, "Oops, no, I don't like you!"

Correct. It’s not the person rejected by the moral baker. It’s the ceremony or ritual.

Your getting good at this!

You understand this ^^, yes?

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

Here's a big problem with all this to me. The Colorado baker refuses, SCOTUS tells Colorado they are on thin ice, be best to reconsider and meanwhile a tranny drives 90 miles to the same baker to force him to create a coming out cake

That's targeting and it's BS. I suspect many of the cases are simply targeting Christian bakers

 

[Silhouette]

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

You're getting really good at this. It's not the Hindu the moral baker would turn away. It's the ritual he would be giving a leg up to if it defies his fundamental beliefs.

Think Nazis wanting a Jewish baker to bake an anti-Semitic cake.

 

[Silhouette]

Here's a big problem with all this to me. The Colorado baker refuses, SCOTUS tells Colorado they are on thin ice, be best to reconsider and meanwhile a tranny drives 90 miles to the same baker to force him to create a coming out cake

That's targeting and it's BS. I suspect many of the cases are simply targeting Christian bakers

They were warned about this. And the new SCOTUS is not going to be so vague in their next Ruling.

Brace yourselves crybullies...

 

[boedicca]

Then don't buy one or eat it.

I probably won't.

But if I decide I want one and you tell me you are going sell it to me, you don't get to say, "Oops, no, I don't like you!"

Correct. It’s not the person rejected by the moral baker. It’s the ceremony or ritual.

Your getting good at this!

You understand this ^^, yes?

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

Here's a big problem with all this to me. The Colorado baker refuses, SCOTUS tells Colorado they are on thin ice, be best to reconsider and meanwhile a tranny drives 90 miles to the same baker to force him to create a coming out cake

That's targeting and it's BS. I suspect many of the cases are simply targeting Christian bakers

It is. The tranny in question has requested satanic cakes and phallic cakes. It's disgusting the way the baker is being harassed.

 

[mdk]

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

You're getting really good at this. It's not the Hindu the moral baker would turn away. It's the ritual he would be giving a leg up to if it defies his fundamental beliefs.

Think Nazis wanting a Jewish baker to bake an anti-Semitic cake.

You didn’t answer my question. Is the moral baker allowed to turn away a Hindu or not? It’s a simple yes or no. You won’t answer b/c you’re cool with the government forcing people to do business with each other, but not for people *you* dislike. Like all your standards you want it both ways.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Then don't buy one or eat it.

I probably won't.

But if I decide I want one and you tell me you are going sell it to me, you don't get to say, "Oops, no, I don't like you!"

Correct. It’s not the person rejected by the moral baker. It’s the ceremony or ritual.

Your getting good at this!

You understand this ^^, yes?

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

Here's a big problem with all this to me. The Colorado baker refuses, SCOTUS tells Colorado they are on thin ice, be best to reconsider and meanwhile a tranny drives 90 miles to the same baker to force him to create a coming out cake

That's targeting and it's BS. I suspect many of the cases are simply targeting Christian bakers

It is. The tranny in question has requested satanic cakes and phallic cakes. It's disgusting the way the baker is being harassed.

Given trannies are mentally disturbed troublemakers it's no surprise

 

[mdk]

Then don't buy one or eat it.

I probably won't.

But if I decide I want one and you tell me you are going sell it to me, you don't get to say, "Oops, no, I don't like you!"

Correct. It’s not the person rejected by the moral baker. It’s the ceremony or ritual.

Your getting good at this!

You understand this ^^, yes?

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

Here's a big problem with all this to me. The Colorado baker refuses, SCOTUS tells Colorado they are on thin ice, be best to reconsider and meanwhile a tranny drives 90 miles to the same baker to force him to create a coming out cake

That's targeting and it's BS. I suspect many of the cases are simply targeting Christian bakers

The tranny suing him is a disgraceful asshole. It’s beyond petty.

 

[Silhouette]

If I want into a Muslim bakery and wanted them to make me a cake celebrating National Booze Day or something like that, and I was turned away. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. I'd expect it.

BTW, why aren't these deviant sex addicts trying this cry by targeting Muslim bakeries? Anyone? Any thoughts?

 

[DandyDonovan]

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

You're getting really good at this. It's not the Hindu the moral baker would turn away. It's the ritual he would be giving a leg up to if it defies his fundamental beliefs.

Think Nazis wanting a Jewish baker to bake an anti-Semitic cake.

You didn’t answer my question. Is the moral baker allowed to turn away a Hindu or not? It’s a simple yes or no. You won’t answer b/c you’re cool with the government forcing people to do business with each other, but not for people *you* dislike. Like all your standards you want it both ways.

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

 

[Silhouette]

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

No. A couple of problems:

1. RACE, (not butt sex addiction) or what religion one belongs to is forbidden to discriminate against. There is no mention of butt sex or other deviant sex addictions in the US Constitution, no matter what Obergefell insinuates. It ain't there. Not even implied. If it was, it would have to have a full listing, not a partial one of the potential deviant sex addictions allowed coverage..

2. It's not a person who can be turned down for an innate thing or religion. It's the RITUAL requested to be celebrated. Once informed, a moral baker cannot participate in a ritual forbidden to his deeply held beliefs.

Someone mentioned that the tranny wanted the decent baker to bake a "penis cake". The baker would refuse because that too would be a celebration of pornography...defying the baker's deeply held modesty.

 

[mdk]

Can a moral baker turn away a Hindu citing the First Commandment? Is that allowed or does this standard only apply to fags?

You're getting really good at this. It's not the Hindu the moral baker would turn away. It's the ritual he would be giving a leg up to if it defies his fundamental beliefs.

Think Nazis wanting a Jewish baker to bake an anti-Semitic cake.

You didn’t answer my question. Is the moral baker allowed to turn away a Hindu or not? It’s a simple yes or no. You won’t answer b/c you’re cool with the government forcing people to do business with each other, but not for people *you* dislike. Like all your standards you want it both ways.

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

I could not agree more. Some appear to want have their gay cake and eat it too. lol

 

[mdk]

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

No. A couple of problems:

1. RACE, (not butt sex addiction) is forbidden to discriminate again.

2. It's not a person who can be turned down for an innate thing or religion. It's the RITUAL requested to be celebrated. Once informed, a moral baker cannot participate in a ritual forbidden to his deeply held beliefs.

Funny how these standards of yours have all these little loopholes that never apply to people you don’t hate. Thanks for admitting you’re a hypocritical slut.

 

[DandyDonovan]

If I want into a Muslim bakery and wanted them to make me a cake celebrating National Booze Day or something like that, and I was turned away. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. I'd expect it.

BTW, why aren't these deviant sex addicts trying this cry by targeting Muslim bakeries? Anyone? Any thoughts?

Can you stop screaming long enough to admit that both sides are asshole??

If the Christian baker would just give the nasty queers a price that was too high or a delivery date that was beyond the nasty gay wedding date, or just give any other reason for refusing service than the queer wouldn't have a legal justification for crying.d

But the Christian baker wants that queer to know exactly why he doesn't want to bake him a cake.

Now, IMO the Christian ought be able to say to the queer "get out fudge packer" and that be that, but unless and until this law gets over turned or removed, it IS the law.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Yeah, this a hysterically flimsy premise.

You misspelled pathetic.

At least it was good exposing people that actually support individual liberty and property rights from those merely pay lip service.

I just don't get how we got a point in this country where we actually have people who believe that sometimes its a good thing to have the government FORCE people to work for people they rather not work for.....

That's been standard Dem policy since its inception.

Um plenty of Republicans support it as well.

Not as policy.

See: slavery, open borders, forced labor.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

No. A couple of problems:

1. RACE, (not butt sex addiction) is forbidden to discriminate again.

2. It's not a person who can be turned down for an innate thing or religion. It's the RITUAL requested to be celebrated. Once informed, a moral baker cannot participate in a ritual forbidden to his deeply held beliefs.

God you are stupid.

Religion should hold no import in this conversation. What if an atheist baker just hates gays? Too bad, he has to serve the cake because his sky god doesn't tell him he can't?

 

[Silhouette]

If I want into a Muslim bakery and wanted them to make me a cake celebrating National Booze Day or something like that, and I was turned away. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. I'd expect it.

BTW, why aren't these deviant sex addicts trying this cry by targeting Muslim bakeries? Anyone? Any thoughts?

Can you stop screaming long enough to admit that both sides are asshole??

If the Christian baker would just give the nasty queers a price that was too high or a delivery date that was beyond the nasty gay wedding date, or just give any other reason for refusing service than the queer wouldn't have a legal justification for crying.d

But the Christian baker wants that queer to know exactly why he doesn't want to bake him a cake.

Now, IMO the Christian ought be able to say to the queer "get out fudge packer" and that be that, but unless and until this law gets over turned or removed, it IS the law.

They'd have to prove discrimination. Again, race and religion are prohibited to discriminate against. You can't say "we don't serve Jews here". But you can say "I won't make a cake to celebrate (****) Jewish ritual" if you feel strongly opposed to such a ritual in your deeply held beliefs.

No screaming. Rituals cannot be forced upon others to celebrate if they defy their fundamentally deeply held beliefs opposing such a ritual.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Simple fact of the matter

A Christian should be able to turn down a gay and a gay should be able to turn down a Christian, and a black person should be able to turn down a honky.

No. A couple of problems:

1. RACE, (not butt sex addiction) is forbidden to discriminate again.

2. It's not a person who can be turned down for an innate thing or religion. It's the RITUAL requested to be celebrated. Once informed, a moral baker cannot participate in a ritual forbidden to his deeply held beliefs.

God you are stupid.

Religion should hold no import in this conversation. What if an atheist baker just hates gays? Too bad, he has to serve the cake because his sky god doesn't tell him he can't?

Actually religion is the crux of the matter. The Constitution is in play

 

[Silhouette]

God you are stupid.

Religion should hold no import in this conversation. What if an atheist baker just hates gays? Too bad, he has to serve the cake because his sky god doesn't tell him he can't?

We're talking about the 1st & 14th Amendments so religion most definitely does belong here. Butt sex or other deviant sex addictions have no Constitutional protections that I'm aware of. If they did, the list would have to be very very comprehensive, which it is not under "LGBT".

 

[mdk]

If I want into a Muslim bakery and wanted them to make me a cake celebrating National Booze Day or something like that, and I was turned away. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. I'd expect it.

BTW, why aren't these deviant sex addicts trying this cry by targeting Muslim bakeries? Anyone? Any thoughts?

Can you stop screaming long enough to admit that both sides are asshole??

If the Christian baker would just give the nasty queers a price that was too high or a delivery date that was beyond the nasty gay wedding date, or just give any other reason for refusing service than the queer wouldn't have a legal justification for crying.d

But the Christian baker wants that queer to know exactly why he doesn't want to bake him a cake.

Now, IMO the Christian ought be able to say to the queer "get out fudge packer" and that be that, but unless and until this law gets over turned or removed, it IS the law.

They'd have to prove discrimination. Again, race and religion are prohibited to discriminate against. You can't say "we don't serve Jews here". But you can say "I won't make a cake to celebrate (****) Jewish ritual" if you feel strongly opposed to such a ritual in your deeply held beliefs.

No screaming. Rituals cannot be forced upon others to celebrate if they defy their fundamentally deeply held beliefs opposing such a ritual.

Sorry. I can’t sell you groceries for Shabbat dinner.